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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Neodoomium posted:

Please take Justin Abdelkader or Jonathan Ericsson or Niklas Kronwall or Jimmy Howard

Please take Kenny Holland

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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Mike_V posted:

I can see Vegas succeeding the same way the Thunder have in Oklahoma City. Only game in town.

And when the NFL and NBA come?

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

kalensc posted:

A GM facing a do-or-die season should go all-in with overpayments on good players with the intention of losing some to expansion regardless of the team's success. It's like a buyout but cheaper and unreliable!

This seems to be Ken Holland's plan

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Neodoomium posted:

Question: Are you limited at how many players you leave unprotected?

Detroit is only obligated to protect Nilsson. A bunch of the younger guys aren't eligible for the draft anyhow.

Could Detroit leave extra people unprotected if they so choose?

Yes.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

OldSenileGuy posted:

Seriously though, why are they not being called the Las Vegas Knights? Do people hate puns THAT much?

Las Vegas bad puns

Logo is a hawk wearing sunglasses

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Neodoomium posted:

For real though anyone who would call himself "The Creator" or allow himself to be called that in seriousness is a loving idiot.

An absolute ham-and-egger dumbass jamoke.

A god damned trash bag.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
The earlier name, Las Vegas Teamname.nhl.com is a very modern name for the digital culture, and promotes the website. BRANDING

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Las Vegas Games Of Skill.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Gio posted:

The Joe doesn't have a loss song. It's more of a "OKAY SHOWS OVER NOTHING TO SEE HERE!" kind of feel.

also gently caress journey. gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress journey.

The Joe also has a horrendous DJ and game presentation team. Cheesy, outdated stuff.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

hifi posted:

Finally detroit (?) can make fun of another team for stupid banners

Washington has the worst banners. Chicago's are also bad, organization-wise.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Dale Ouise posted:

The Winnipeg Jets held out on their name until their first round pick of the draft. That was plenty stupid without an NFL franchise breathing down their necks.

I know Foley wants the Knights name bad, but George Lucas also wanted Luke Skywalker to be a sexagenarian. If this is what's holding everything up, Foley's just going to have to deal with it, and pull a name from his rear end.

It was stupid for Winnipeg, yes, but the team was already selling a ton of Jets merchandise before it officially became the name, and all of that sold merchandise led to the name of Winnipeg Jets. (The owners wanted to simply upgrade their AHL identity of Manitoba Moose, but the fans wouldn't have it.) That name was basically a fait accompli.

For Vegas, Foley should have had names ready to go. He doesn't have to go through the NHL's process to ask around, get some good ideas, and start working on general branding concepts. Come up with a half-dozen Nevada animals, a couple military concepts, and something Vegasy and slowly eliminate them until you've got a winner. It's not that hard.

Looks like the Vegas team is going to be a hilarious clusterfuck of a franchise, possibly even more than the all new Las Vegas Raiders, a historical clusterfuck of a franchise.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Lessail posted:

It's not but keep dreaming of that thought like everyone else that isn't in vegas

It absolutely is.

Phoenix relocated a team AND picked a logo in about six months. Many expansion cities were ready to go right away.

Bill Foley can't even pick a name without publicly making a fool of himself. If Bettman didn't want a team in Vegas, Bill Foley would be this decade's Jim Balsillie.

Also, if the Raiders move, they will be the #1, #2, and #3 teams in Vegas.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Duke Chin posted:

Now now guys, let's not forget the Maloofs are on board here as well.

.....really?

Hahahahahaha, this is gonna be a disaster. Congratulations, Quebec!

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Lessail posted:

With a very minor percentage but hey that won't keep y'all from jerking each other off

Now now, no need to project your lustful thoughts about The Creator on all of us

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

The issue as far as I can tell is that he did have a name ready go go, and it was the Black Knights. Of course in this case "ready to go" means he picked it without ever asking anyone if there would be trademark issues with the name, which should have been really obvious considering he was trying to name them after an existing team.

And that's the stuff you have off the record discussions about.

Lessail posted:

Looks like Minnesota was six months from being granted to official name. Columbus was June to November.

So, maybe next time don't talk out of your rear end?

None of those teams had owners getting profiled on Hockey Night In Canada, pulling out various objects with Black Knight names while commenting on what a great name for a hockey team that would be, what his name choice is, etc.

And neither of those teams promised to have a name by a certain time, before publicly flailing.

Also, if the Maloofs are involved, incompetence is on the way.

AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 18, 2016

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Maybe Vegas could just use the old, repurposed Thrashers name?

Vegas Thrashers

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Las Vegas Hostile Posters



Only a businessman from somewhere crappy like Jacksonville would think a Vegas NHL team is a glitzy investment to buy.

AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 18, 2016

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

lmao yeah what could possibly make everyone want to poo poo on "the creator"

Normally when a Southern businessman goes to Vegas to pay a lot of money to get poo poo on, it involves backpage hookers and a lot of mess.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Well they could, but the name Thrashers sucked the first time

It's better than Desert Knights.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
News: hahahahah

Views: hahahahhaahhahahahahah

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevecarprj/status/779076378301915136

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Duke Chin posted:

thank u the creator



Is that sin bin dude or whatever still completely licking his boots to a sheen I can't bring myself to click over there.

You don't need to ask this question. You know the answer, in your heart.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Duke Chin posted:

Of course it's gong to be this. It was never not going to be this.

JAMOKE UPDATE

- Foley has acknowledged the development of a unique sweater material that looks like a steel mesh.
- He's keen on the double-worded "Knights" name, but earlier stated a dislike of "Silver Knights".
- Foley stated that he a vision of an "Excalibur"-like sword being pulled from a rock in an opening ceremony.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I'm about 90% sure that everyone is just going to refer to them as "The Knights" regardless of whatever retarded rear end descriptor they put in front of it

Las Vegas Retarded rear end Descriptors

Or RADS for short.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

hifi posted:

Well actually the official Army Black Knights mascot is a mule so i assume the creator is going to appoint a 2017 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn Edition for mascot duty

The owner is already a jackass, maybe he can be the mascot

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
I have seen nicer locker rooms in suburban Detroit ice arenas. High school teams have nicer lockers.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Nail Rat posted:

For as rich as the Creator is, he can't even have built-in wooden benches? Just 40 dollar folding chairs?

Compare this to the Sabres: http://1.cdn.nhle.com/sabres/images/upload/gallery/2011/10/BW3_6224_slide.jpg

Or the Leafs: https://hockeylandcanada.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/leafs_locker_room.jpg

I have to imagine renovating the locker rooms is going to be a project within 3 years.

That is an older version of the Leads locker room too. Note the jerseys.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Nail Rat posted:

Are they supposed to be just shoving duffel bags under their personal folding chair? I don't see anything else in this room, or room for much else for that matter.

Yeah, just stuff your bag under the chair. Real NHL quality facilities.

The Joe Louis Arena had nicer locker rooms 20 years ago, and not only of the wings moving out of there after this season, but the original architect apologized in the Detroit news paper for not including any amenities in the building.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Pornographic Memory posted:

if those are the home team locker rooms i can only imagine the away team has a literal closet

The visiting team will need to change in the arena concourse, or change back in their hotel rooms and ride the bus over in full equipment.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Jovial Cow posted:

Better idea, they change in their hotel room and put on roller guards as seen below, then they synchronized skate down the strip to the arena putting on a show for all the tourists.



https://thedirtyturban.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/aagoal.jpg

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

ThinkTank posted:

e: Sin Bin is the weirdest loving blog

Then follows a full, horribly written fan fiction about the fact that Vegas doesn't have a team name yet.

:psyduck:

http://sinbin.vegas/the-case-of-the-missing-name/

What the hell

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
100% chance the name gets pushed back again.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
The only reason they won't have jerseys is that the jerseys have not been designed.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Las Vegas Copyright Infringement Knights

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
I really hope that they have second thoughts and don't announce a name tonight, but still have the event.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
This is hilarious.

This is everything I expected, and more.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Good news!

http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/11/28/one-of-these-knights-army-considers-challenge-of-new-vegas-team/

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
The Las Vegas Jamokes

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Foley's on the Las Vegas news denying that the trademark got rejected, so expect this to turn into a shitshow.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/foley-hits-mother-load-with-golden-knights/616292177

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Teemu Pokemon posted:

Can wait to have an actual tangible list of Ken Holland's incompetence

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/transactions/detroit-red-wings/signed-free-agent/

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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:

Are there any GMs stupid enough to accidentally expose a top player?

Ken Holland

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