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Anomalous Amalgam posted:You know trying to post with a cool calm head, they aren't terrible cases. I just, I tilted with Jakes case. I don't find me confirming and then coming back later to be scummy as gently caress even with the turbo in between. It's circumstantial and kind of WIFOM. I want to kill him for the pun he just made scum or not
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:So were they poo poo cases, not entirely. Jakes is circumstantial WIFOM and YPMs relies on implicit knowledge of my PM and how the mod handles redirection as being a targeted "visit" or reflexive. Why Asiina, Kash, and RF? Kash was defending you pretty heavily.
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Jun 29, 2016 23:15
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:His taking no part in this stancr earlier on, seems in the know about my alignment and he could fall back on it later on. A scum down, I imagine they'll be thinking about the longterm now. But his stance was pretty much that our cases were terrible. You hadn't done anything that would make someone give a positive town read on you so why would he defend you by saying you are town? He defended you as best as it seems town can.
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Jun 29, 2016 23:18
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:It's my opinion man. Like I said, a scum ploy to appeal to town on behalf of someone who is likely dying for credit down the line. Read or no read. Your thought process requires we objevtively played mafia as you do subjectively. Not everyone thinks that way, and I've seen scum do this very thing more than once. Or I'm questioning the person that is my top scum read to see a reaction, because right now all I have to work with is a meltdown. If town were to defend you how would you expect them to do it?
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Jun 29, 2016 23:24
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MG3 posted:YPM I think you're wrong and a large portion of your case is setup spec How is it setup spec? The only thing that is spec is that when you target someone you visit them, which is really not a huge stretch
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Jun 29, 2016 23:44
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Also why do you think Jimson is scum we are waiting to hear your case
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Jun 29, 2016 23:44
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MG3 posted:He's a major lurker that was turboed day one and flipped scum lol Perfect so how about you tell me how my case is setup speculation apart from targetting someone necessitating visiting them?
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Jun 30, 2016 00:05
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MG3 posted:Or maybe it does work the way you say it do, but it don't But you said a major portion of my case is setup spec. Which part other than the visiting = targetting thing is spec?
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Jun 30, 2016 00:08
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MG3 posted:None of it. There is more? I saw everyone except AA visit someone.
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Jun 30, 2016 00:13
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JakeP posted:At this point I think AAs temper tantrum was because he was being correctly lynched as scum, and he was pissed that he was legitimately not around at the time of the Jimson turbo, and its not fair I'm inclined to agree. I think his case on Kash doesn't make much sense and comes more from acting more than anything else and like I said before, he is mad that he is not getting cased "correctly" (because he actually did target asiina and was legitimately not here for the turbo) and that he is getting lynched so early rather than getting mislynched as town.
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Jun 30, 2016 00:18
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dongsbot 9000 posted:actually im death cop Prove it what was Jimson? Scum or town?
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Jun 30, 2016 02:21
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IllegallySober posted:I'd never heard of the Nexus role before I played this game. I was just looking at the wiki which seems to say it is. It can be scum or town and is actually an inherently scummy role
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Jun 30, 2016 02:24
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Alright seems like dongs is a death cop
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Jun 30, 2016 02:25
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Wait AA why did you redirect all actions to Asiina if you suspected her? If you are town that might create a false positive read on you if she's scum
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Jun 30, 2016 02:27
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IllegallySober posted:Literally the first sentence of the wiki says "A Nexus is a pro-town role" And the first wiki that pops up when you type in mafia nexus into google talks about how it is anti town
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Jun 30, 2016 02:32
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I also think he's a nexus
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Jun 30, 2016 02:33
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Jake tell me about the MG3, I really don't like him naming Jimson as possible scum. I feel like its a mistake that only gets made by a guy who is more worried about creating a list of scum reads than actual scum reads
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Jun 30, 2016 02:37
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JakeP posted:That was my first thought as well when he posted it but I dunno, the scum would have had to submit a night kill so you would think magnus would have been involved in that if he were scum, and would know jimson is dead. I could see him saying jimson as a joke and not as a slip Imagine this Jake: You are in the scumdoc and Jimson gets turbo'd so fast that he can't even type his name in the header section. I could totally see Magnus not even realizing that Jimson is his scum buddy. That's part of the reason I kept asking him (well twice) about Jimson, I wanted to see how he played it, and it wasn't like it was a joke all along.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:11
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MG3 posted:I posted it on purpose, I was aware Jimson was scum. Jake look at this bullshit
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Jun 30, 2016 03:16
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MG3 posted:lmao, yes very bs. Actually Jake called you out immediately Mr. Testing People to See Who's Reading Closely
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Jun 30, 2016 03:20
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MG3 posted:Whatever. Still doesn't change the impetus behind my post, and my thought process behind making that post. You either believe that I put the Jimson part in on purpose as a joke and then left it in to see who'd notice, or you don't believe that. Ok but that's not why we are voting AA now, and are you going to share with the class?
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Jun 30, 2016 03:25
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MG3 posted:I included in my post 3 (maybe four I don't feel like checking for sure) opinions on players in this game, then I threw in an "opinion" on Jimson (who'd already flipped scum) saying "I thought he was scum". I think its scummy to turn around and say "It was all a ploy to see who was paying attention!" when you admitted that you only skimmed over posts.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:27
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Your Personal Muse posted:I think its scummy to turn around and say "It was all a ploy to see who was paying attention!" when you admitted that you only skimmed over posts. Actually thinking about it I don't I think its more dumb than anything and right now I'm of the opinion that you weren't paying attention and the retroactively made it a gambit to cover up your stupid mistake, which is more townie than anything.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:28
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Although I don't see how someone can form an opinion on Jimson...even forgetting the flip its not like he did anything.
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Jun 30, 2016 03:30
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I've settled on the retroactive gambit theory
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Jun 30, 2016 03:33
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I hope TNL and Jake aren't scum because they are the most rational
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Jun 30, 2016 03:49
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Kashuno posted:does anyone like my case against AW There was a pretty hefty amount of activity yesterday. It reads more like someone who read through and really doesn't know what to think but puts their thoughts down anyway, which is what i do all the time
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Jun 30, 2016 16:06
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I don't think I can say AW is scum just based on that post
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Jun 30, 2016 16:14
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I think AA's meltdown because two people had kind of lovely cases in him is odd
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Jun 30, 2016 16:41
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tpink posted:I also think that AW's post where he basically says "MG3 is playing dumb and may be town, but I'm voting for him anyway" is odd. What is this saying? You've been making these kinds of posts all game. Who is scum? Who is town?
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Jun 30, 2016 16:47
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tpink posted:This is saying that AW's post pings scummy because he says that MG may well be town but then votes for him anyway. What's unclear about that? Odd does not equal scummy. I for instance am an odd man but I'm the towniest motherfucker here because my PM says so.
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Jun 30, 2016 18:00
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Other than saying that Jake's case is straightforward, there doesn't seem to be an opinion on AA in your post history. What do you think of AA?
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Jun 30, 2016 18:37
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IllegallySober posted:At this point of sounds like pretty much everyone buys AA's story that he is a one-shot nexus who used his power N1. The only question becomes alignment. Well I was talking to TPink, but again, the first wiki that pops up when you type mafia nexus into google mentions it is a pro scum role, and if you use your noggin, redirecting ALL actions, including investigative actions, induces chaos and hurts the town. The fact that he is a nexus does not sway me one way or another. I would like to know why, if he believed Rarity was scum, he redirected all actions toward rarity. If rarity performed the night kill and a tracker tracked it, or was scum and got copped, AA would come up scum. And investigative actions are much more likely than killing actions (at least the way I see it). It makes more sense for scum, knowing this is a role heavy game, to blow their one shot nexus the first night to hopefully get a false positive one someone else than town to do so.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:09
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CapitalistPig posted:
Gimmie a vig and I'll start threatening people
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Jun 30, 2016 19:10
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Asiina* FTFY Sorry you are right. Now answer the question
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Jun 30, 2016 19:12
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Kashuno posted:Nexus can be either alignment stop using a nexus justification.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:18
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I figured, if someone made a NK on me maybe I could redirect to someone else I thought was scum. Your Ah-ha! relies on me thinking Asiina also would be the one to make the NK, which I wasn't betting on. In any case, I didn't think it through all that much. I'm a blow your load type of guy. My Ah-ha relies on the fact that there are INVESTIGATIVE roles and if those INVESTIGATIVE roles INVESTIGATED you, they would be redirected to Asiina and have gotten a scum result that they would have believed would be on you because, in your mind, Asiina is scum.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:23
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My ah-ha does not care if Asiina is the one killing and has nothing to do with murder it has to do with investigative roles
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Jun 30, 2016 19:25
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:A lot of you town will look like idiots when I flip, and if you're scum, well then you suck. Nah you'll look like an idiot if you flip town and had a complete meltdown because two guys called you scum
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I'd like to know what about Asiina made you think her as scum. She was basically the one pushing (albeit jokingly) the Jimson turbo the most.
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