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muscles like this! posted:Just read an interesting article about how The Incredible Melting Man was originally supposed to be a horror comedy but the producers took it away from the director at the last second and did some reshoots in order to make it more "serious." Did they have anything on the Credible Melting Man?
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muscles like this! posted:The Dead Talk Back is so weird because it spends a lot of time talking up all the psychic stuff and then just completely dismisses it at the end. There's probably a reason why it wasn't released until 1 year before MST3K got it.
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Narsham posted:Based on the frequent posts of a couple critics in an MST message board I peek at from time to time, I think you're spot on. A subgroup of people massively ignorant of the conditions under which TV is produced are convinced that Joel, on his own, is doing a lot of impractical artsy-fartsy stuff and insisting on higher production values instead of the bare-bones original show. Complaints about having all the extra puppeteers, for example, or not just having the three main performers with the puppets in the theater. Yeah, this stuff pisses me off. People don't realize the process behind making things. I also don't think people get just how much work it takes to make something look thrown together. Plus, the new stuff is being shot with HD cameras versus videotape, so now you can see everything in high fidelity. And the show wasn't a core group of people's full time job either. During the original run, that was the performer's main job. But now, the cast are doing this in between gigs. Joel mentioned how the voice actors wouldn't really have time to learn how to do good puppetry. It wasn't like the Netflix stuff was overly elaborate. I think a lot of people think producing the show back in the 90s was just a 90 minute affair, and that's never been true.
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Narsham posted:I thought the same on first reading, but that is inconsistent with everything else that has been said and can easily be understood as an error in diction. I am 100% confident in my interpretation of what was meant, even if you are correct about the wording of that one specific communication. The key word is at least until the next one goes up. I'm guessing for new episodes, they will be there indefinitely. But what about classic episodes or special live events - they might only have a limited time license. I think it's a little complicated for its own good. The way I'd pitch it is - new episodes will always be there, but special live events and other things we put on in may only be up until the next one debuts.
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Apr 10, 2021 22:26
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drrockso20 posted:The fact that the Movie ended up being shorter than the average episode of the show is still pretty funny in retrospect It's shorter than EVERY episode (not counting any specials). Think about that. I can't think of any TV show where that is true. The movie is also the only MST3K on laserdisc.
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Apr 11, 2021 14:52
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fsif posted:Right, many/most of the people jettisoned in service of the reboot spent even more time on the original series than Joel did. They're as much a part of the MST3K story as Joel is and they've been shut out of anything more than a token conversation about the series's future. You can bet a lot of them are justifiably pretty sore about it even if they don't air the dirty laundry publicly. No matter how it happened, there's going to be complicated feelings and the room for someone to get hurt. Joel created the show, but without Kevin or Trace or Mike or Bridget or Frank, there's no MST3K. They were a huge part of why the show was a success, and they helped make it. But Joel got the rights and he wanted to bring the show back. And his vision all along was to make MST3K in a way that it could continue on without him. If they brought back the old cast, would it have worked as well? And not to mention that they're all doing their own things now. But it doesn't really matter to me. Joel has done a good job acknowledging the works of others, but it's not like he left the show on the best of terms, since him and Mallon were not getting along. I don't think there is a realistic way to do this where nobody gets hurt a little. But let's face it, at least they are all now getting paid for their old episodes, and that's something Joel saw to. Edit: and just to add on - it's also about the new cast. Imagine having to always step aside so an older member can get a scene. If Joel wants the show to be successful, it has to be like Frasier season one - he wanted to the character to be defined by his new relationships, not by Cheers. Cemetry Gator fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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muscles like this! posted:A "counter" Earth is a pretty common sci-fi trope. Yes, just a trope. The secret of planet X must remain hidden from you foolish humans! I mean, yeah, but if there was a counter Earth, we would have known about it. Certainly nothing to worry about.
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Apr 16, 2021 20:38
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Yeah, he was a major influence during the Joel years, but Joel was the driving force. The invention exchanges - Joel used to do prop comedy and that's an extension of that
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Yes, Joel, who literally started a TV show in the 80s, revived it, and organized large tours might not be able to do a TV show again
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I went with 250 because I really the show on Blu-Ray because I'm fundamentally broken.
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Finally, I'll have the punctuation needed to make it clear I'm asking a question.
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The biggest thing that hurt NuMST was that Netflix insisted on releasing all the episodes at once. So you didn't have a chance to get fan feedback and to make adjustments. You didn't have a chance to react. Instead, it's all there, and you got what you got. That's why season 2 fucks. They were able to take the lessons learned and the feedback, and make something really good. The only thing I didn't like was losing a host segment, but I'm broken like that. I think Mac and Me really highlighted how talented they are. That's a movie that is high on people's wish lists for riffing, and it would have been easy to go for the bunts, but they did a really good job making it actually funny.
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May 9, 2021 14:05
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Maxwell Lord posted:Honestly one of the most baffling things to me is how many of the host segments are long full takes. Someone laughs or flubs a line and you have to do so much over again. Yeah, unless they go from Deep 13 to the SOL, they're no camera changes. I guess they only had one camera, and that's what you got with no jump cuts or anything. Except for Still Store.
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May 14, 2021 23:04
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Why would you launch an invasion of Cuba with just four people, three who are escaped convicts?
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Davros1 posted:Watching At Earth's Core, and one joke that hasn't aged well is Crow telling Jonah, "We thought you'd be a combination of Joel and Mike. Someone like TJ Miller." I was really impressed that the joke that aged the worst in the Are You Ready For Marriage sketches was Crow choosing Marvin Gaye Sr. over Bill Cosby as the ideal father, and that's supposed to be the wrong answer. Like, there's so many ways that bit could have gone wrong, especially being from the 90s, and that's the part that aged the worst.
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The Girl in Lover's Lane is one of my favorite episodes. I love these juvenile delinquency episodes, and if I had one wish for new MST3K is that they get to do at least one. I find those movies are the right mix of good enough on a technical level to keep your interest as you watch, but goofy enough on a story/morals side that you can just go to town.
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Look you want a hamburger sandwich and a bible lesson, it's gonna cost ya.
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Jan 2, 2022 06:55
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Sex for sundries is fun! Everybody!
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HopperUK posted:Everyone is right about Beast of Yucca Flats, it's appalling. But for some reason I like it. I cannot pin anything down, it loving sucks, but I'd rather watch it than Hobgoblins any day. I think maybe its weirdness just sits with me. I dunno. I watched Jack Frost the other day without MSTing, now that's a fun movie. The thing about Coleman Francis's films is that they are all so hateful. His films are about terrible people who do terrible things and have terrible things happen to them. And when there's a good person, you can be assured something terrible will happen to them. So you're watching pure misanthropy crossed with technical ineptitude, and not only that, his films get worse as he goes on. It's pure hate on celluloid.
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