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wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Dr. Snark posted:

YEAAAAAHHHHH EAT CLUSTER BOMBS YOU PIECE OF poo poo

Also what in the gently caress was that thing?! We were hit by anti-ship and anti-air missiles and active AAA! How the hell do you get that many guns on a tanker!? And more importantly, can we do it ourselves eventually?

Sure, but the same thing will happen to it.

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wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Gervasius posted:

Is that some weird souped-up T-55?

Looks like a T-55 barrel and turret, with some new optics and up armoring (especially with the reactive plates.) Possibly unmanned.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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I recall reading an interview with one of the advance teams that went into Iraq to designate targets for airstrikes alongside the local militias. They cheered like crazy when an old east bloc export tank sitting on an intersection was destroyed, and when the guy asked why it turned out they'd been trying to kill that specific tank for years. No wonder the budget arms market exists.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Any course of action should start with SEAD missions, in addition to whatever ground strike choice is made. I'm surprised EU NATO isn't running those round-the-clock right now, institutional paralysis or not. Seriously, where is the Bundeswehr and their hundreds of Leopards?

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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How many SDBs do we have? Can we start the day by glide-bombing all the previously known SAM positions? I doubt ROMARM are going to have the discipline to continually move their batteries.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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habeasdorkus posted:

There's so many large container ships being scrapped all the time that we could absolutely grab one at pretty cheap cost and then just load it up with a shitton of export quality Klub-K's and some helos. And some Harriers... :getin:

:cmon: F-35B's or go home.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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CourValant posted:

At least we're flying Mirages; I still can't get anyone to get on the A-10 II wagon.

This is pretty much exactly the wrong environment for A-10s. Hell, anywhere people are walking around with manpads is too hot for A-10s.

I vote Operation Balkanize because it has pictures.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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HG needs another recon drone or ten.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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koolkevz666 posted:

Shame we pissed off the Russians and the Chinese something tells me that they would probably have no qualms with mercenaries fighting for them using whatever they needed to get the job done. Then again maybe this could go in our favour if we went back to taking part in conflicts in the likes of South America and Africa away from the big nations I doubt the UN would care too much about what we got up to.

What, and Russia/China's enemies will care what we're doing when we're working for them? This is really just "no fun allowed (but only for non-state-sponsored actors, proxy warriors are fine.)"

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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gently caress the MIC forever (what else is new) but at least we have carte blanche to go crazy on ROMARM.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Real talk: I give it a month before every-goddamn-one of these OEMs has at least two salesmen moving BVR under the table to outfits like ours. Tragedy of the commons happens real fast when it can pay for your place in Martha's Vineyard.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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sparkmaster posted:

Mid 50s soviet aircraft just have a certain appealing aesthetic to them.

We could have had the beautiful planes. But no.

Youse sayin' somethin' bout' da F-16, pal?:catbert:

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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The Yak-141 is the only choice.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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If those really are drone tanks, then when the jammers switch on ROMARM is going to learn why you don't use drones as your ground force.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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TheDemon posted:

the goon solution is probably to feed them bad data until the system learns all sorts of useless habits, just like has been done with every other publicly accessible machine learning system to date

Yeah, flood the servers with your own bots that do nothing but friendly fire and drive backwards into the enemy. Seriously, Arsenal AD are the software guys, they should be able to attack this easily.

wiegieman fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Apr 2, 2019

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Warmachine posted:

tbh it wasn't what I was intending to reference, but letting loose rabid geese on the enemy pilots would also tickle my fancy, so I'm warming up to it

Anything is airdroppable, once.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Dropping mines is a good way to get superpowers really really mad at you.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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RandomPauI posted:

Speaking of comedy not prophecy, is Dahir Insaat an actual thing in the Yooperverse? Their latest "offering" is this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q2ErBK95Tk

Well, it's basically CBU-97 launched from VLS tubes. Someone at darpa will fund it.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Door Knocker

Give the client what they want. This is the US Navy, they say they want an escort, but they actually want some git-dang explosions.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Radio Free Kobold posted:

I knew as soon as the discord said "we can bomb the runway", that's what it was going to be.

An enemy that is scrambling CAP on their runway is am enemy that can't go hunting for your client.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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NATO is really only crapping their pants about BVR/PGMs, right? A real AWACS that won't fall apart after one flight should be on the table.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Dumbo Mumbo Jumbo to put the boots to the scum of the earth.

Cluster munitions all day, every day. Without magic PGMs available we're going to have to resort to more thorough methods.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Warmachine posted:

Gotcha. I tried to go middle ground between the 20x FAB-100s and the 6x FAB-500s in my loadouts, but maybe I should have opted for OFAB-100s, and just saturate the area.

Absolutely. If we're hitting thin skinned vehicles and infantry, the more area saturation the better.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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While having a package of BVR would be nice, I doubt CIA would protect us from the consequences of using that BVR package.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Let's go with A. I'd love to buy another Gorgon Stare, but not rent one.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Gotta be ISARM, we can't pass up a chance at F15s.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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We definitely need a good radar with our lack of awacs. Plus, LASER.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Davin Valkri posted:

For me, the deciding factor is not so much the weapon system as it is the detection system. Being able to see something incoming 150 nm out, even if your primary ground response is good for 3 nm, is better than seeing something incoming 60 nm out, even if you can engage it at 27 nm, because of how the OODA loop simulation works.

This is where I'm coming from. We're buying a nice radar that happens to come with a laser.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Costs can be passed on to our corporate clients anyway. The real question is how much of The Good Stuff we can get our hands on.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Ideally, "How did you get this number" is how I would respond to all incoming communication.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Do we have access to bvr again?

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Yooper posted:

Maybe they're both fleeing from a US Postal Service F-35?

You know, they did box up that F-22 tooling and ship it...

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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The answer to jcatch was to ask if aim-9s still locked on to helicopters, which they did, and then to ask why the pilots were going in with guns on what is essentially a flying AA emplacement instead of bvr killing it.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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There's no way we can get a U2. You need to breathe oxygen for an hour before flying one of those, you need a second U2 pilot in a chase car just to land it.

But if our new French friends were to find a Gorgon Stare or two that happened to fall off the back of a CIA truck somewhere, that would be nice.

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wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

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Yooper posted:

Recon Viggen gives us 4nm at 12,000 ft. Zero detection at 36,000 ft. Condor2 is 5nm at 12,000 ft, zero at 36,000 ft. TARPS is 2 nm at 12,000 ft, zero detection at higher altitudes.

Gorgon Stare, according to DARPA, should have a functional range of 10km square. I'm trying to get some more info as to why CMO thinks it should look out 40nm.

10km square is probably for its persistent surveillance function, which is what GS is really meant for. For just finding out if something is there, you could likely push it considerably further.

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