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spudsbuckley posted:The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM Ehhhhh, I would disagree with this. The tone of FWWM is mostly just sad. Watching Laura go through her last days of life and seeing how lost she was is heartbreaking. There's some surreal poo poo in there, sure (just like in TP proper, for the record), but that's not a bad thing; it adds more to the mythos of the Black Lodge and elaborates on what's actually going on. The fact that Lynch doesn't spoon-feed the answers in a digestible way isn't a failure of the film, because it provides plenty of hints and and outright connections for the audience to make. The series has always reveled in symbolism, and FWWM is no exception. The revival (so far) is much the same in this regard, though the tone is more of a neutral zone between the goofier parts of the original and the emotional heights of FWWM. quote:insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over I may come off a bit rude here, but maybe you should just try harder to understand what's going on? There's plenty to chew on and figure out how it all fits together. It's not crazy for the sake of crazy - there's an internal logic to it that matches the original series and FWWM. quote:whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it. Wait, so he's capitalizing off nostalgia by making something that has minimal nostalgia in it? If he wanted to make bank off nostalgia, for one, he wouldn't be doing hour-long episodes or a limited 18-episode run. There would be no announced end point, there would be minimal new characters, and he could have absurd references and jokes like Cooper having a really big coffee mug or Shelly and Bobby being married and having a pet named "Leo" or any number of stupid poo poo you would see in a heartless cash-in of a beloved series. quote:This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time He's just a nice midwestern dude who likes making beautiful, surreal art. Adam Sandler, he ain't. quote:and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube. Call me Rube Goldberg, then, because I can't wait for June 4th.
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May 22, 2017 23:36
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LostRook posted:The credits list Walter Olkewicz as playing Jean-Micheal Renault. Lynch loves his doppelgangers!
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May 22, 2017 23:40
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Franchescanado posted:I mean, with every scene in Twin Peaks so far there's been an underlying sadness, even if it's just Hawk answering Maragret's phone call like he probably has evey single night since Coop went missing 25ish years ago. I'm not saying there are no sad scenes, just that it doesn't feel sad through so much of it like FWWM does. There are a few scenes, like this one, as well as Bobby noticing Laura's picture and falling apart all over again, but largely the first four eps of this series haven't been feeling that way. To me, anyway. Perhaps they'll take on that feeling as the show goes on.
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May 22, 2017 23:42
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Modrasone posted:Psycho Dale Cooper is a really weird concept for me to get my head around but that's fine as we couldn't just be chasing after BOB in TYOOL 2017 because he genuinely died from AIDS complications. I liked the bit with the spade spraying and holy poo poo I hope that box in New York gets its own spinoff series like Better Call Saul. It totally is BOB inside of Coop, for the record. He even grew out his hair to match the look! It's just that his original actor being dead means they can't really show the trippy imagery of switching between Coop's body and BOB's visage like they did with characters before. Think of it like Leland throughout pretty much all of TP and FWWM, but actively doing awful things all the time rather than trying to hide the awful things.
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May 22, 2017 23:46
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Franchescanado posted:I meant scenes literally set in Twin Peaks. Ohhhhh, okay. You can probably see where my confusion comes from! Still not sure I quite agree with that, but hey.
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May 22, 2017 23:56
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Nothus Infelix posted:I'm not 100% sure Bob is in Bad Cooper. When Bob plays, he is hyperactive and cartoonish. Everything Cooper does is cold and measured. Bob likes knives and bludgeons. Cooper shoots people. Bob hides in respectable folk. Cooper is not respectable folk. Bob kills and abuses for fun. Cooper is enacting some sort of plan or program. Even if Bob is in there, I think Cooper's doppelganger has been driving. I don't think there's enough info about BOB from the series to justify laying out rules for how he acts. He's only been shown to inhabit one person before, and that was Leland. He tried to transfer to young women multiple times, and failed with each, resorting to killing them. Whatever Bad Coop is, he likely created a decoy, Dougie, as part of a plan to avoid being pulled back into the Black Lodge when the time was supposed to come: 25 years after his escape, at what ended up being 2:53 pm. To me, that speaks of someone who is intimately familiar with the rules of the Black Lodge and how to manipulate things within it. Dale has no idea how to do any of that.
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May 23, 2017 00:03
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Cromulent posted:In the 2nd episode from last night, they seemed to make it a point to show the clip of the S2 finale of Cooper's evil-eyed doppleganger laughing with Bob, and then Bad Cooper chasing Good Cooper through the rooms. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're retconning it or anything, but it looks like they're not going for "Frank Silva Bob" being Bad Cooper. I feel like this image is relevant. If not for this I would be on the doppelganger Bad Coop train, all the way. 
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May 23, 2017 00:20
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sticklefifer posted:I had other problems with FWWM - I felt that we already knew enough about Laura's death, and going back and seeing it happen does a disservice to the horror of Leland's confession scene in season 2. The story felt unnecessary and didn't really augment my experience of the series in any way. I also found the recasting of major roles distracting and it took me out of the film more often than not, though I suppose that isn't Lynch's fault. I thought it was actually a pretty fascinating look into what Laura was actually like rather than hearing about it from other characters. Witnessing her life from her perspective was a completely different world, and one that had plenty to add to the story. It doesn't hurt that Sheryl Lee is loving fantastic in the role. As far as recasting goes, wasn't it just Donna? I mean, it's a little awkward for continuity's sake, but it didn't bother me too much. It helps that she was good in the role.
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May 23, 2017 02:19
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n4 posted:I felt like Bobby bursting out crying was self-parody and I loving loved it. That's an interesting take on it. I felt that it was all pretty straight-forward. It was really touching at first to see him working as a cop, which gives a whole lot more poignancy to the scene he has with his father in the original show, talking about his vision of what's probably the White Lodge. It made me tear up the first time I saw it, and that feeling is even more pronounced now that it appears that he fulfilled his father's vision. HE'S A GOOD BOY, DAMMIT.  And then he sees Laura's photo and just breaks down crying like he can't help it, because he really did love her even though she was so lost she couldn't really love anyone properly in return, let alone Bobby. I really hope he doesn't turn out to still be Bad Bobby, because that would ruin all of it 
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May 24, 2017 04:42
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NObodyNOWHERE posted:Has anyone made note of all the numbers that keep popping up in S3? They're pretty prominent and all over the place. The giant gives some, the arm gives some, there are numbers that change on the electrical socket machine, the junkie lady blurts some out. There's a bunch more too, even back in FWWM. Not sure if there's more to it, but when Jade reaches into Coop's pocket and finds his Great Northern room key, it says "315." The vault numbers were 15 and 3.
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May 25, 2017 14:05
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Under the vegetable posted:Rewatching s2e7 right now and the sound ???????/giant tells cooper to listen to on the record in ep 1/the sound that closes the episode is the looping record in the palmer's house when Leland kills Maddie. Just now got that. Duh. The scene also immediately transitions to Julee Cruise at the Bang Bang Bar. lol. Someone compared a sound from the phonograph to the sound of a slot machine crank, and the sound profile matched perfectly. E: James really was cool, guys. TheMaestroso fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 02:50
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So I found a thing posted elsewhere that posits a purpose to the Jones' family's weird names. Janey-E Sonny Jim Dougie All the letters in those names: a d eee g ii jj m nnn oo s u yy Rearranged they can become: My Annie Judy Josie - gone My first thought when seeing this was, "Wow, that's super cool! Who the hell is Judy?" I've been reminded that she isn't a character on screen in any of the Twin Peaks things, but was mentioned by Jeffries in FWWM: "Well now, I'm not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we're not gonna talk about Judy at all. We're gonna keep her out of it." Also, at one point the image of a monkey says the name "Judy" in close proximity to imagery of Laura Palmer's dead body.
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May 27, 2017 03:43
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Consummate Professional posted:Source your quotes Here's the Jeffries scene in question (from the Missing Pieces version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHl_8WK8w3Y
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May 27, 2017 04:04
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And More posted:It's actually My ojisan Ed - Genuine joy. David Lynch still thinks Big Ed is the coolest uncle out there. New best interpretation.
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May 27, 2017 14:20
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Cicadalek posted:I enjoy that this show has me going back over it to capture images of vomit. Some pics from both scenes: Totally agreeing with these observations. In Dougie's you can see bits of that garmonbozia (the yellow bits and the blackish streaks - maybe the blackish stuff is coffee? lol), but the fact it's solid and has a brownish center and a lot of reddish stuff on it does suggest a couple things: 1) it's not solid garmonbozia like what BOBCoop vomits up, 2) it could be interpreted as reminiscent of his favorite RR cherry pie, and 3) the fact that Jade has no reaction other than "gross, vomit - are you sick?" tells us that it's not hospital-inducing grossness like BOBCoop's. Who knows what the actual functional relevance could be, but hey that's what speculation is for.
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May 28, 2017 00:21
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wa27 posted:What are the odds of the real Sherrif Truman showing up? Well, everything for the past two years has talked about him declining to return, because he's retired. If he did return it would be completely unexpected. So...who knows?
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May 28, 2017 22:25
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wa27 posted:Oh, was he out there saying that? I seem to remember him saying he was excited to return, and then he was surprisingly absent from the cast list. That was the case, and then he suddenly couldn't do it, giving no reason why.
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May 28, 2017 22:49
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moist turtleneck posted:holy poo poo that little backwards talking dude is 97 Michael J. Anderson is 64 
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May 29, 2017 00:22
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Barreft posted:If anyone likes the weirdness and mystery of Twin Peaks but hates how slow and boring it is, along with the creator jerking himself off with weird things that mean nothing just to appear "out there" or whatever, give Legion a try. It's just as weird but has a story and isn't filmed with 50% silence/staring every episode. Not sure why you're posting in the Twin Peaks thread to tell Twin Peaks fans to watch another show because it's more palatable to a general audience. That's like telling someone who's really into Igor Stravinsky to stop listening to Le Sacre du Printemps and check out Die Zauberflöte.
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May 29, 2017 02:17
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Just watch the original show. Seriously. It'll make it easier to handle new mysteries when you have a baseline of familiarity.
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May 29, 2017 02:58
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This suggests BOB is involved with DoppelCoop: E:VVV Totally agree there. TheMaestroso fucked around with this message at 17:18 on May 29, 2017 |
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May 29, 2017 17:13
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genericnick posted:Sounds like bullshit. Did that actually happen to anyone we know? Leland only got possessed. It's possible it happened to the guy investigating Theresa Banks' case. He completely disappeared.
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May 29, 2017 18:02
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So, this is a cool interview. It also confirms that BOB is in BadCoop in some way. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/29/twin-peaks-kyle-maclachlan-dirty-cooper/ E: VVV I take it you haven't seen my posts using that as evidence for it (I even posted that picture in the last couple pages). I mentioned it because some people feel there's ambiguity in the new season as to whether or not BOB is in the DoppCoop. TheMaestroso fucked around with this message at 03:07 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 02:47
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Franchescanado posted:Why would you feel bad about Frank Silva? He was a set dresser with dreams of wanting to be an actor. He accidentally showed up in a mirror, which could possibly get him fired, but Lynch decided to make him the central focus and villain of the whole universe. He appears in most of the episodes and he's terrifying. Guy got super lucky and then earned his place, good for him. Lynch actually talked about how Frank became BOB in this video from ten years ago. E:VVV Awesome. And it's nice to have corroborating stories! TheMaestroso fucked around with this message at 14:11 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 13:56
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Only asking here because it's the most likely to have knowledgeable answers. I saw MulhollNd Drive like 6 months ago and I couldn't get it. Like I get that either the first half is s dream or the second half is a dream or maybe both are half dreams, but while I still suppose I liked it, I still couldn't tell you what happened or what the blue box or the homeless woman (whose expression I just read was the actress making gently caress Me Eyes at David Lynch) really "mean," etc. Of Lynch's works I've seen Twin Peaks, FWWM , the past 4 eps of S3, Mulholland, and Eraserhead like 4 times because it's possibly my favorite movie. Have you watched MD more than once? I think that would help a lot in trying to understand it (in your own way, anyway). It's a very dense film, so there's plenty of parsing what is real, fake, dream, etc. before you get to a place where it really clicks. I think the most pivotal point in the film in regard to this is the scene in the theater.
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Jun 1, 2017 02:40
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kaworu posted:You know, it's very funny reading the posts from Jerusalem, because (and I hope he's not reading this post yet) it's got to be very odd to go from FWWM and the end of season 2 straight into season 3. It just seems odd. Something I paid close attention to when watching the first few episodes of S1 was the first dream sequence in the Red Room. In that dream Cooper has aged noticeably, lending credence to the mantra "Is it future, or is it past?"
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Jun 1, 2017 02:45
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Fados posted:Not really, Coop is pretty much completely defeated by Window Earle at the end of the second season and enters the lodge with 'imperfect courage' (worried about Annie) which means he gets used and imprisoned. He also gives Laura bad advice (not to take the ring), which she ends up ignoring in the end, and manages to 'save' herself from being possessed by Bob. How is this your interpretation when Earle is shown to be caught by BOB? Coop just has a chase with his doppel for a bit and gets lost. Quite a bit different, I would say.
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Jun 2, 2017 13:47
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Kulkasha posted:He loses Annie and is forced to enter the most dangerous thing in existence to try to save her (and fails - the Lodge arbitrarily spits her back out, not Cooper). Cooper is forced to obey Earle and is clearly saved in this regard by BOB getting mad. He then fails to stand up to his shadow and is lost for 25 years. That's pretty clearly a failure. He didn't get destroyed like Earle did. That's the difference I was talking about. quote:BOB would have dealt with Earle one way or the other and I doubt Annie's fate would have been any different (is she even alive after FWWM?). They show her in the hospital, alive, and then the resident nurse sees the ring on her finger and takes it.
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Jun 2, 2017 14:08
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Fados posted:So now, 25 years later, he's reborn again, gets another chance at understanding this primordial evil. I think reborn really is the apt term, I now think that purple transition zone is some kind of womb, with "Mother's" door knocking it's beating irregular heart. He's then learning how to go to potty, needs someone to put his shoes on, and is learning how to speak through imitation. I really kinda love this interpretation.
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Jun 2, 2017 23:16
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Kulkasha posted:It's a Twin Peaks tradition! Considering it was shot over the course of about 8 months (Sept. 2015 - Apr. 2016), I would imagine cost was a real factor as well as actor availability. The cast is enormous, after all.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:04
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So last week I started a knitting project (after a fair amount of planning and getting excited about the new season), so I figured I'd post the imgur gallery and update it periodically. It's going very well so far, and much quicker than I expected!
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Jun 4, 2017 23:33
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Jacoby's shovel scam is the best payoff for that mystery I could've hoped for.
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Jun 5, 2017 03:11
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I don't get that at all! Weird.
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Jun 5, 2017 03:32
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Clouseau posted:Also, Mike Nelson was listed in the credits- was he the dude who gave the interview? HOLY poo poo HE IS Wow, that takes that scene to a whole new level.
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Jun 5, 2017 03:42
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eSporks posted:This episode solved none of mysteries or questions. and it's awesome E: 
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moist turtleneck posted:I just thought Cooper was sad because he realized he was as braindead as his kid His mouth was closed.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:42
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TheBizzness posted:"He's Lying" definitely seemed to be Cooper and not Zombie Dougie. Agreed. That moment stunned me silent when it happened!
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tap my mountain posted:Nah the guys he owes money to were the guys wearing black in the black car. That's why they fell for the carbomb. No, they're just assholes who cased an abandoned car, came back to check on it the next day, then decided they were free to steal it. We actually have no info on who is supposed to get the 50k. The assassins clearly aren't, otherwise they wouldn't have been trying to kill Dougie from the get-go. Their mission appears to just be "kill Dougie at first chance."
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