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Koko's stalling brainbuster finisher was the poo poo, but you never saw it unless he was fighting a total jobber on a weekend TV show. https://youtu.be/bsAKXB8nubA?t=3m9s Chiropractors went every time he hit that thing. e: Bonus pre-WWF Koko, no bird gimmick and just angry as gently caress at this dude apparently. First clothesline rag dolls the dude and then he just bitch slaps him over and over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmTdsLMyG0 sean10mm fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Dec 15, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 22:02 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 04:25 |
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Koko was too small for Vince to consider making him a star, but he seemed too good (and too over) to be relegated to glorified jobber like he was either.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2017 02:28 |
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DeathChicken posted:There was this squash match I loved from Superstars where the random jobber inexplicably started beating the crap out of Perfect from the opening bell. After a few minutes of this, Heenan pulls Perfect out and basically goes "Stop messing around, you're going to lose to this guy". Perfect gets back in and goes ape on jobber, Perfectplex and the win Hennig just owned that smug-rear end bastard character, and like Bret Hart he had a bunch of moves that just looked evil, like his running neck snap, or that trip + kneebreaker combo thing.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 23:26 |
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DeathChicken posted:Bad News and Andre had a complex relationship. You call me a racial slur, I pull a gun on you, you poop on me, etc He sharted on Jake Roberts too IIRC.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2018 18:57 |
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Sgt Slaughter had been a face in the mid 80s and fought the Iron Sheik a lot, but more significantly he was made a heroic character on the GI Joe cartoon, which he voiced himself. He was also a marine corps drill instructor in real life before getting into wrestling. So even though he had been a heel before, that still had to be a crazy swerve at the time to make him straight up go gently caress AMERICA.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2018 14:04 |
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His son is the reigning United States Champion in WWE.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2018 15:27 |
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Rarity posted:You're loving kidding me His character is very much derived from Rude's though, to the point where he used the Rude Awakening move and everything.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2018 21:00 |
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Undertaker had a heck of an evolution as a wrestler. He was an impressive monster immediately, but then he starts doing suicide dives to the outside and rope walk moves and poo poo and it's the most goddamn thing.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 17:42 |
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Davros1 posted:That's why we have NXT now! Yeah but I don't think he did it in WWF at first. At least I don't remember him doing the more agility based stuff for a while other than the giant jump clothesline.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 18:25 |
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DeathChicken posted:Looks like he did the ropewalk in his very first singles match actually. Also where Honky comes up with Rest In Peace Well so much for my garbage memory lol
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 18:42 |
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There should have been a Bret Hart & Curt Hennig tag team called "Perfect Excellence." Imagine the two of them just being as gently caress and taking turns donig evil as gently caress moves to the kneecaps and balls of their opponents. *kneebar**kneebreaker**knee drop**senton on knee**headscissors into knee strike* *Dick stomp* *Headbutt to dick* *Inverted atomic drop (to dick)**ringpost figure 4, crushing dick*
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2018 19:20 |
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Rarity posted:
Speaking of coke sweats, at some point in his WWF career Jake got serious about lifting weights and working out and got visibly bigger, and Vince told him to knock that poo poo off because "The Snake" is supposed to be slippery looking worm-man. So Jake just took some time off to not work out and to take more drugs until he got relatively skinny again.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2018 15:21 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Whoops. I mixed them up, you're positively correct. Sasaki did go to WCW around a similar time period but it wasn't his excursion, just part of WCW and NJPW's working agreement. Sasaki was also a part of the Road Warriors/Legion of Doom when they wrestled in Japan as the POWER WARRIOR e: LOL @ some of the names of his moves. KING BUSTER NORTHERN LIGHTS BOMB STRANGLE HOLD ALPHA/BETA/GAMMA/Z VOLCANO ERUPTION SPACE TORNADO KENSUKE TORNADO BOMB sean10mm fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Mar 8, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 8, 2018 21:45 |
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Rarity posted:While this match had slightly more going on to it than I initially expected it still wasn't anything special. I feel like I'm supposed to be way more into Bulldog than I actually am. Especially as the original UK guy he should automatically be getting the same love from me that guys like Regal, Layla and Barrett always got. But I just can't bring myself to care because the guy is a charisma vacuum. The same does not hold for noted Good Dog, Winston, who is by far the star of this double act. What a cutie! He does noticeably better when he gets a better opponent for a pay per view sometime in... 1992? Yeah. Bulldog, not the bulldog, who was already a good boy.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2018 22:40 |
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Snuka also wore boots sometimes early in his career. This is from 1981: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThnsJ4tptk I always thought Jimmy Snuka owned as a kid. He was this crazy dude who was jacked but did top rope moves and flying karate chops and poo poo! That was before it became public knowledge that he was probably a murderer.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 20:32 |
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Face or heel, Hennig and Hart both loved the timely dick attack.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2018 15:42 |
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Shiki Dan posted:As a palate cleanser for that crap main event, enjoy the only actual GOOD match that Hogan and Slaughter actually had, which was actually several months previous--a DESERT STORM match in MSG which as usual, is like bizarro WWF compared to TV and PPV at the time in that the top guys actually put in workrate. I thought we skipped something with Hogan vs. Slaughter, turns out it was this MSG match and not a PPV like I assumed.
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# ¿ May 8, 2018 20:39 |
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Face Jake was just Heel Jake with different enemies.
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# ¿ May 10, 2018 13:21 |
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I re watched the bit where Miss Elizabeth took off her skirt to distract the heels, and even though they were the bad guys they didn't really act lecherous. Bad guys being pervs would be in character but they pointedly didn't go that route. Instead they seemed to just be confused more than anything.
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# ¿ May 13, 2018 03:44 |
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remusclaw posted:Flair took the NWA title off of Harley Race at the first Starrcade with a flying cross-body. That is the shining moment of glory he chases every time he goes to the top. If you go waaaaay back supposedly Flair used a diving knee drop as a finisher, but I can't find any clips of it.
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# ¿ May 16, 2018 16:35 |
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I think at this point Jake's DDT was still being treated as pure death. When Jake lost it was because he just never got the chance to use it, or there were shenanigans that kept him from going for the pin after killing the guy. I'm sure Hogan would have no-sold it but their feud in the 80s got called off, supposedly because fans liked the idea of Hogan eating the DDT too much. Savage getting up and having to be re-DDT'ed over and over was just crazy.
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# ¿ May 31, 2018 19:58 |
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Savage's family for real hated Jake because he did such an amazing job with this storyline. They had every reason to know it was all just a show and they still loving lost it lol.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 02:40 |
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Early, bad Undertaker match: 1) No-selling everything 2) Choke holds galore 3) Crazy athletic move out of nowhere makes you go 4) No-selling opponent's finisher(s) 5) A tombstone piledriver that either keeps the guy's head a foot of the ground... or looks like a leaping skull spike of death for real. He gets real good but it's a way off for sure.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2018 16:56 |
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forkboy84 posted:Yeah, I loved Taker a lot and dressed as him for Halloween one time around this time, but it doesn't hold up. Aside from the MDK tombstone. That's the reckless insanity I can get behind. Sometimes he'd do a BIG jump before delivering it, which was even more than usual. People just loved his character from the get-go, and that carried him until he actually got good at wrestling. We're just, uh, not there yet, but at least he's a good "monster spectacle" type of guy even at his worst.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2018 18:18 |
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Renaissance Spam posted:Edit gently caress forgot what thread I was posting in and spoilered Also Brett had like 4 different groin attacks that he did all the time, regardless of if he was a face or heel. They'd always call them "midsection" attacks but they always hit the groin and the victim always acted like it was a nut shot so...
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2018 12:55 |
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DeathChicken posted:It's even better than I remembered. Sid wins a squash against some other jobber, proceeds to helpfully try and save the life of the jobber he just killed. Virgil interrupts, proceeds to job on a run-in That's a meta-job right there.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 16:29 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:He was kinda like Warrior in having a really great persona and image, pity about the wrestling part. I'd rate him better than Warrior, which admittedly is a super low bar. Sid was a better heel character than Warrior was a face character.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 16:54 |
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Rarity posted:I've got pretty much no idea of anything pre-1998. You know what you must do. The end is only the beginning!
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2018 13:09 |
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Is it time to goldmine this beauty?
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 19:23 |
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It's funny how many acceptable matches Warrior had for not actually being good at anything. I don't even mean that as snark, Warrior really wasn't much of a wrestler and his character was one note (cocaine.) Taken as a whole Savage-Warrior deserves to be up there, but I dunno about Warrior-Rude... I mean Rude owned bones and they definitely worked well together, but they just don't feel that "big" to me as matches. I dunno. Steamboat-Savage not even making the top 5 seems a little though.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 16:45 |
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Jason Sextro posted:don't be hating on the Rarities, the Worst Hair Award has one of the strongest contender pools I've ever seen. (obama voice) LET ME BE CLEAR... I love the Rarities. And that hair hahahahahaha
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 21:11 |
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TL posted:No "What Dat Butt" award? It would just be Rick Rude competing with himself 5 times.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2018 00:54 |
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Jason Sextro posted:Worst Suplex has to be Hogan's "suplex" on Virgil where he just drops him on the floor. It's jaw-dropping in its ineptness. For a while Kevin Nash would routinely do a version of the vertical suplex where he just dropped the dude like that on purpose.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2018 19:08 |
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Jason Sextro posted:it occurs to me, on further thought, that Worst Suplex could also be Dino Bravo's "why is this a finisher" sidewalk slam. Eh, that might have been the LEAST crappy thing about Dino Bravo as a wrestler.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 21:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 04:25 |
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I'm happy to concede those two points, which are fun things I totally forgot about.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 22:44 |