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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Dann's cruelty on that date I don't see as being actual events in universe, but kind of a comedic abstraction of how bad the date went. Like Talla snapping on the glove this episode, I find it unlikely they cavity searched the Krill ambassadors with no consequences, it's a little absurdity thrown in the mix. Ehhhhhhhh... no, I don't think I subscribe to that. Dann being a jerk on that date does not strike me as inconsistent with the rest of his character as portrayed. I find it eminently believable that Dann would be cheery much of the time but incredibly insecure. Tighclops posted:everything that happens on screen is canon unless otherwise stated what is this hereSY BURN THE WITCH- visual evidence must take precedence as it is the only way we can objectively measure the TNT equivalent gigatonnage of the turbolasers, furthermo- **fffaaaaaAAAAARRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTT
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I just realized this episode was called Blood of the Patriots, which is the most late season DS9 episode title.
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I miss the Laugh Track when is not on MASH The fact that they never used it in OR (or other, much rarer moments) was a cool choice and I like the juxtaposition
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double nine posted:nothing needs a laugh track. Laugh tracks are humour-stealing demons. laugh tracks are good in the specific context of me barely paying attention to a show while I do something else
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gbs but from 2004 posted:laugh tracks should be banned also I like Lamar’s character but J lee straight up just can’t act, he’s wooden as gently caress j lee just needs to be allowed to stay in his lane it feels like since he became chief engineer he's been told to be more serious and trek-y, since that's the direction the show is going overall, but it flat out doesn't work. he needs to be goofy and unprofessional even with his new responsibilities, make it a constant thing where lamarr is effective but unprofessional and yaphit complains about it
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One thing I like about Bortis is he kind of has the stoic warrior thing going on. You can see how his personality would arise. But while overall reserved the Moclins have a pretty wide range of personalities, kind of like how people are. Instead of having entire races all act the same. (Though the Klingons do rule and I don't want them to change)
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Thinking about it, the Mochlans are more like Vulcans than Klingons
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Iron Crowned posted:Thinking about it, the Mochlans are more like Vulcans than Klingons Do Vulcans also have a crippling porn addiction?
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Red posted:Do Vulcans also have a crippling porn addiction? Only every seven years.
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Iron Crowned posted:Thinking about it, the Mochlans are more like Vulcans than Klingons Stuffy, really reserved, justifying all their bullshit for survival, yea that works. And Klingons do have a variety. You have ones that are super serious about everything, you have sneaky, untruthsworthy ones, shelfish ones, inquistive ones, and ones who just wanna enjoy life. I've said it before, Klingons were the most developed sci-fi race ever.
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gbs but from 2004 posted:laugh tracks should be banned also I like Lamar’s character but J lee straight up just can’t act, he’s wooden as gently caress IMHO the actor is decent but the character is one-dimensional. It's like Background Ensign Number Three was somehow promoted to a lead spot. I kinda feel the same way about Yaphet. I freekin' love Norm McDonald, but a horny goo monster just isn't the best vehicle for him. Have Yaphet be sucked into the replicator and made into custard, then have Lt. j.g. McDonald come on board to repair it, and be asked to stay.
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Or maybe the other snotmonsters from Snotmonsternor Prime could find out that something Yaphet did was strictly forbidden for their society, and to punish him, they absorb him and spit him back out as a humanoid alien with smoothed features who can no longer shapeshift. I mean, who can no longer do the things that a sentient, ambulatory snotmonster can do. And yes, I have an idea on how he could gain his snotmonster powers back. But that's for a later episode.
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Brawnfire posted:Christopher Judge should be a Moclan. Indeed
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Beachcomber posted:Maybe Dann could have a laugh track and no one else does. It's revealed 4 episodes later that thats just something that happens to his species. Another great Dann idea. can anyone find that hilarious post about Danns mom's ship Edit: 80 new posts maybe it got renewed oh nope we're talking about Dann triggering people Donovan Trip fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Brawnfire posted:Christopher Judge should be a Moclan. Christopher Judge and Michael Dorn should guest-star as Bortus's fathers.
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Powered Descent posted:Christopher Judge and Michael Dorn should guest-star as Bortus's fathers. Only if they're extremely openly affectionate with each other. Just insanely handsy.
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Brawnfire posted:Only if they're extremely openly affectionate with each other. Just insanely handsy. Stop trying to get your slash fiction on TV. Also I wrote it before but here it is again Fathers, It is good to see you. Indeed Indeed Indeed *mercer comes over* Indeed! *all three Moclans glare at him*
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twistedmentat posted:Stop trying to get your slash fiction on TV. Four, Klyden don't play that poo poo either. And yeah, I've never wanted a guest casting as much as this ever before.
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Beachcomber posted:Maybe Dann could have a laugh track and no one else does. It's revealed 4 episodes later that thats just something that happens to his species. This would be a really great gag. A species that emits a noise that just so happens to sound a lot like a 20th century laugh track when they're amused by something. Of course, they also make an audience "awwwww" sound when they feel heartwarmed.
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Gynovore posted:I kinda feel the same way about Yaphet. I freekin' love Norm McDonald, but a horny goo monster just isn't the best vehicle for him. Have Yaphet be sucked into the replicator and made into custard, then have Lt. j.g. McDonald come on board to repair it, and be asked to stay. Oooooooh, now I want an episode where Yaphet goes into his species' reproductive cycle and it's done by uncontrolled cell division. Lots of tiny Yaphets everywhere, a nice hommage to "The trouble with Tribbles".
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Tom Guycot posted:This would be a really great gag. A species that emits a noise that just so happens to sound a lot like a 20th century laugh track when they're amused by something. Of course, they also make an audience "awwwww" sound when they feel heartwarmed. oh theres no loving way this isnt on a whiteboard in their writers room, and if it isn't it needs to be.
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I don't get why Bortus and Klyden are a couple. Bortus seems way more open-minded than Klyden, who is - compared to Bortus anyway - basically a bigot every time something you can be a bigot about comes up. I know I couldn't be together with someone who is as close-minded as Klyden and it doesn't make sense that Bortus could be.
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uXs posted:I don't get why Bortus and Klyden are a couple. Bortus seems way more open-minded than Klyden, who is - compared to Bortus anyway - basically a bigot every time something you can be a bigot about comes up. I think that's just how he appears to us but he isn't close minded, he's just a Moclan. There probably was a time when he and Bortus saw eye to eye but it's Bortus who is getting 'woke' to the way other species do their thing and interested in letting that seep into his own culture.
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uXs posted:I don't get why Bortus and Klyden are a couple. Bortus seems way more open-minded than Klyden, who is - compared to Bortus anyway - basically a bigot every time something you can be a bigot about comes up. I think what happened to his daughter opened Bortus' mind in a big big way, and the entire rest of the crew supports that kind of thinking. I'm not sure how often Klyden even leaves the room
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Bortus was just as closed minded until recently Bortus never tattled on Lokar's *deviant* behaviour towards alien *females*, unlike Clyden.
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You know what was weird, Klyden busting in with "I know what you are" when literally the only thing he saw was him walking down a hallway with Talla.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:You know what was weird, Klyden busting in with "I know what you are" when literally the only thing he saw was him walking down a hallway with Talla. moclans have to watch a lot of "how to spot a hetero" training videos in school
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Klyden also being born female probably underlines a lot of his behavior, like since it was done to him he may have come to internalize the abuse and double down as a way of coping.
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Insanely accurate straightdar
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Which episode was Dann's horrible date? I remember him being super awkward and insecure, but I don't remember getting the impression he was being cruel. Gynovore posted:I kinda feel the same way about Yaphet. I freekin' love Norm McDonald, but a horny goo monster just isn't the best vehicle for him. Have Yaphet be sucked into the replicator and made into custard, then have Lt. j.g. McDonald come on board to repair it, and be asked to stay. And this I don't understand at all. Yaphet is great basically every time he's on screen. I wish they'd use him in more major roles, honestly. And I hope the doctor gives him a chance eventually.
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Phenotype posted:Which episode was Dann's horrible date? I remember him being super awkward and insecure, but I don't remember getting the impression he was being cruel. Cruel is probably not the right word because there was no malice but he was completely selfish and insensitive. A sort of controlling born of deep insecurity. Toxic af
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Dann's date: He read a story or poem or something (maybe she read it?) She said it was good in a fake voice. Dann said to give him feedback be critical he can take it. He wanted honest feedback to better himself. She made some mild remark to which he replied that she was tearing his heart out. It implies he wanted her to keep up the lie because he thought he was hot poo poo. He can't stand being anything other than perfect and hate people pointing out his flaws. This is completely different from everything else we've seen of them though. Maybe his species expects mates that just complement them and stroke their ego the entire time. Maybe it was shot before nailing down his character and it will never matter and always be "that weird out of character date that he had"
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See, I didn't think that was out of character at all, I put that down to being ridiculously insecure and shallow. He wanted to be the kind of loose, easygoing person that he's seen on TV, and he knows that he's supposed to say "Go ahead, I can take it, I need honest feedback." But the slightest bit of criticism really did send him into a shame spiral and doubt everything he's ever done. I didn't get the sense he thought he was perfect or that he really wanted her to keep lying, just that he's so insecure that he just couldn't handle hearing her real opinion.
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pixaal posted:This is completely different from everything else we've seen of them though. Maybe his species expects mates that just complement them and stroke their ego the entire time. Maybe it was shot before nailing down his character and it will never matter and always be "that weird out of character date that he had" I don't know. I think that date seemed perfectly in character with everything we had seen of him so far. The character is remarkably overconfident and unprofessional.
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Phenotype posted:See, I didn't think that was out of character at all, I put that down to being ridiculously insecure and shallow. He wanted to be the kind of loose, easygoing person that he's seen on TV, and he knows that he's supposed to say "Go ahead, I can take it, I need honest feedback." But the slightest bit of criticism really did send him into a shame spiral and doubt everything he's ever done. I didn't get the sense he thought he was perfect or that he really wanted her to keep lying, just that he's so insecure that he just couldn't handle hearing her real opinion. This was also my interpretation.
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Dann's a piece of poo poo but he makes for some good TV in how lovely he is. I also fully bought his behavior, it was absolutely in character. Seriously anyone who hasn't been on the receiving end of that fuckery he pulled on Alara is lucky. Especially on a first date.
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