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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Regarding where to watch things:
http://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki

That'll be more up to date than anything we can be assed to do.

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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That's why I just suggest linking to tokusubs
wiki with a note that TVN is radioactive and should only be considered as a last resort for people with a high tolerance for bad subtitles.

Anything more fanatical than that is real inside baseball poo poo.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Burkion posted:

We're all in agreement though, King of Kai Fist just sounds lame?

But fans could shorten that to KOK-Fist and suddenly it's entertaining as all hell.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Ex-Aid is about working against the system? Didn't seem like that to me. At some point the Director is forced to realize the Riders are doing what is right instead of what is procedure and asks for the public to support them, but that's about it.

90% of what happens in that show is people trapped in a delusional idiot's long con.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I feel like I played a part in bringing that Burkion rant on, but I've never watched any KR except Ex-Aid so it was more curious and blind pushing.

You've made long elaborate posts about KR, authority, fascism, etc in the past. I'd just warn you that if you passionately feel this subtext is an immutable theme to be carried through the franchise from year to year that... well... they're not often bug-men anymore either, and even the kids can pick up on that.

The management of this era certainly doesn't feel bound to any sacred traditions.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Sep 7, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Going from Ex-Aid to Build doesn't feel like an enormous step forward in character design so I don't know what to tell you.

The vomit stuff peaks early, Genm is designed to be hopelessly childish-hardcore because he's basically a manchild trying to look cool. But other suits like Fantasy Gamer and Cronus just legitimately look neat independent of what show they're in. Maybe Cronus is stretching it a bit, but I thought Ecliptor or whatever his Megaranger equivalent is called was a cool monster design so sue me.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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The strength of Ex-Aid is how at episode 12 you start reaching a point where nearly every episode has a plot revelation or a progression moment that builds on toward the conclusion.

The only episode that feels completely formulaic is Burgermon and even he's important in establishing that not all of these virals are bound to unreasonable chaos (just as Graphite is an example that even sophisticated virals can't always be reasoned with.)

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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This reminds me of when YuGiOh GX had to hit the abort button on an arc because an actress decided to join a sex cult.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Dexie posted:

Yugioh 5Ds had to completely retool everything after the first season because one of its actresses got involved with a cult. Are you sure you're not thinking of that?

Yeah I got my card battling mans seasons mixed up because I only ever was invested in the first cast, but yes that's what I was thinking of. The whole Dark Singers story was given a hasty rewrite.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I mean the icon is the little Mighty X guy, platformer mascot extraordinaire, looking like he's Super Sonic.

otoh it's a little quick to sub something like, "This is a bullshit game where it's impossible to lose and you can shrug off everything".

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Kyuranger is giving me "why am I watching this" vibes and I'm at around episode 15. I'll see if this Stinger plot resolves in an interesting way before giving it up, but that's the male it or break it point.

It's possible I just grew up finally and stopped being a mentally stunted child, but even shows of ten years ago felt more life or death serious than this show. It's so exclusively for children that my recent re-watch of Akibaranger felt more awkward. Like, "heh, right, what adult is watching this show now for anything other than idle amusement!"

And I'm not grown out of toku completely because a month ago I was looking up gashat prices. I just think they gave up the fringe audience of adults after, uhhh, Gokaiger? I know they were there for Shinkenger but it's been a slow gradual slide since then.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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TFRazorsaw posted:

is this really neccessary

It certainly is for me. I am a child-at-heart almost to the point of being a problem. Like my level in cruise ships tanked when I realized a single adult man on a Disney cruise ship would be looked at a little sketchy compared to Royal Caribbean or something. I probably would want to be a kid forever if I could.

But really, it's also because I know these sorts of shows require a suspension of reality (how does Rita breathe on the moon? Does she have to go to the bathroom ever?) and I began to wonder if maybe Super Sentai didn't change and I did. But nah, the show designs have gone from the fantasy/tech hybrid we used to know into purely whimsical designs that are big on neither.

Someone said the show is maybe too toy driven but my problem isn't the toy stuff; the dragon mech is pretty badass. And the toy stuff of KR contributes a lot of why I enjoy watching it, I could get by if it was just like Kuuga-Blade but the belts shouting and singing and giving huge announcements is a silly twist on the formula that amuses me for now. It's just how Sentai is more saccharine, something I blamed on the age shift in ToQge previously, and that it's spiced with Bad CGI which is more awkward than the wires and exploding sparklers of the past.

All that said, the commander does make me laugh when he's being an idiot. It's just also kind of clear that KR is the Older Kids Show where bad things can happen with serious consequences, and Sentai is the safer version.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Sep 11, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I guess my problem is, there's no room for anything grim. There's no room for anything too scary.

When I watched PR's early years, I was aware that Rita was actually called Bandora and that the green ranger died (one episode used too much footage and you can clearly see an Asian man's eyes in Tommy's visor while he struggles on the ground). But that was it. I don't think it was until Zeo and I read about Ohranger that I learned the crazy poo poo that goes into Sentai sometimes. All we had until that point was a lovely Tommy/Zedd battle that went nowhere, so it was crazy to read that the rangers just murder Mondo with their robot and the subsequent drama going all the way to Bulldont meeting the same fate.

PR eventually adapted that stuff, and it broke a little new territory for PR, but obviously there were re-writes to soften the focus of death and loss that was felt on the enemy team. That said, both Zeo and the Japanese recaps I read also insulated me from some of the campy less-than-serious visuals in that show, such as the robots doing dance aerobics in one episode.

And even when I did eventually watch Sentai, I watched the seasons immediately after Gaoranger and they dealt with stuff like, "Red's been poisoned with a toxin and will die in 12 hours!" or even "Abarekiller is a psychopath who enjoys hurting people because he sees it as a game and he's got the cheat code" and I just can't see them, at least as Kyuranger is constructed, touching on topics such as these. But, Kamen Rider just had a season full of this since these two plot lines were regular beats with Game Illness, Parado, Chronicle, etc.

deadly_pudding posted:

Get a girlfriend first, and Secure That Relationship by inviting her on a Disney Cruise.

I'm content as a gay single for now, and just went to Princess or something. I just wanted to see the Alaskan ice cliffs from what is basically a floating Vegas hotel with free food. Especially since I have no idea how much longer those large natural ice formations are going to be around.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Sep 11, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Okay, well, the next episode is called "Stinger's reunion with his brother" or something like that so it sounds like bad timing. I've been watching this show go through a lot of nonsense about stuff like stolen birthdays and bad luck and one episode that was like the toku equivalent of Don Corneo's mansion in Final Fantasy VII (right down to the "hot" crossdresser) so it's been pretty goofy so far.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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TFRazorsaw posted:

You compared this to Abaranger, right?

I've seen a bit of Abaranger. It's not exactly all in the same vein as AbareKiller's storyline. In fact, Kyuranger falls short of just how goofy Abaranger can be by comparison.

That's actually something I touched on when talking about Ohranger. Even before PR got to those episodes, I knew the stuff about the rangers killing the Machine King, the bomb dude who was a bit of a tyrant, and how Bulldont eventually finds his father's severed head and powers up into an adult and finds a girlfriend. All this stuff sounded dark as gently caress.

On the other hand, whatever web page it was that I was reading from, didn't tell me that Ohranger also had stuff like this, which is the kind of thing PR skipped over because it slightly breaks the illusion of the mechs as these powerful machines of last resort if they're doing Jazzercize on their days off. So my impressions of old sentai are perhaps miscolored a bit until I have the time to watch more.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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John McClane posted:

I dunno why anyone would panic about viewership numbers when that's becoming an increasingly obsolete metric
It's merch numbers that matter and I think zyuohger rebounded from ninninger's poor showing there

I think the idea is, "if people don't see the toy being cool, how will they want the toy."

The question is whether the broadcast medium is dying in general, though it's possible the TV medium is dying in general. While the children the show is designed around don't know how to download the weekly [THISFILEHASNOSUBS] rip of the show, the guys who would spend money on a genuine leather duplicate of Build's goofy math-watch would.

But outside of "the skytree is really big" I have no idea about the business/economics of Japanese TV.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I watch with someone else, and after that scene with the vacuum remarked, "there is nothing I cannot punch."

I'm okay with dead girlfriends if there's enough emotional weight to make me miss the girlfriend. Ex-Aid shipped out the dead girlfriend first and then patched in the emotional sadness later, but this felt unnecessary for now given that so much of the cast is made of human experiments.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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The point of Masamune is to watch him go crazy. He's lived for 16 years (including a prison stint) with a virus that will kill him if his stress levels rise, whereas the other earliest patient had most of the virus removed through surgery. He's supposed to be Mr. Cool.

In fact I figured his end would be that he would lose his chill and die to it.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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That image somehow managed to produce a chart that is equally incomprehensible to children as it is to people in their mid-30s.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Yeah, if you want me to watch moe anime, you'll have to give me more than that.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Build being kind of a dick doesn't do it for me currently, since it isn't clear how he earns it. His powers seem to appear from his sister stepping into a walk-in machine and coming out more fatigued than when she went in. What she's doing interests me more than his ability to turn into a bunny gorilla sparrow man who hits monsters.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Yes, beating up smash gives him power bottles that allows him to.... beat up more smash.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Ultraman is taking nobody's poo poo this year.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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RealFoxy posted:

Akibaranger was probably the best show for that to have happened to because they got to take the piss out of her having to leave the show. I wish they'd be able to do a short 6-8 episode season every couple years

Supposedly she struggled with her agency to appear in the first episode of the second season. I don't think they had any issue with her.

The idol character was obviously aimed at a number of performers they have had to put up with over the years but I don't think it was her predecessor. For instance, Tamao Sato (Ohranger pink) was such a drama queen during filming that I was aware of the hate-dom that was growing around her even as a naive PR Zeo fan on IRC with no access to Japanese episodes. The last time I brought her up someone elaborated and said it was all smoothed over today. But yeah, actors who just want to be noticed so they can go do something else are a thing.

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And then you have situations where a famous porn actress played one of the villains in a Sentai (Nao Oikawa in Go-Onger).
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This has been around forever. Megaranger and Gingaman do the same. Not being able to use porn actresses in low cut tops and latex boots may have been why Saban made original characters instead. Which is fine, Astronema and Trakeena are some of the most memorable non-MMPR villains.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Oct 3, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Burkion posted:

With the changing of eras, the next series is definitely going to be an interesting thing to see.

Is anyone in production actually changing? Because this era obsession seems fuckin' weird if not, because it's not like Toei ritually sacrifices everyone responsible for making the show when the Emperor of Japan is coroneted. Sentai hardly has any definitive line as it slowly blended from one path to the other, Kamen Rider is easy to segregate like that because it's one of those shows that had a long trip in the wilderness.

People are really screaming about ratings, but Ex-Aid getting three movies and selling a bunch of blu ray boxes implies that people are seeing the show even if it's not through traditional TV airings. I don't know anything about non-broadcast or grey market television in Japan, so I have no idea how people are watching it (they may be downloading [THISFILEHASNOSUBS] files for all I know) but it seems like they indeed are watching it.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Elfgames posted:

man people keep acting like Ex-aid starts bad when the start is perfectly good.
First five episodes are alright.

Lizard Wizard posted:

On an American note, I decided to watch a bit of Zeo and it takes two full episodes to get to a fight against the fodder enemies. Is the pacing hosed throughout, or just in the beginning?

They wanted to drag it out with shock teasing and so on since it was the first time such a major shakeup had happened. Episodes 3-14 are pretty normal. 15-21 are a goddamn disaster. 9 is hilariously weird for being Power Rangers first experience trying to translate a blatantly humor-based episode of Sentai and keeping their grim faces and determined yelling over footage of rangers riding horses and the megazord attacking a model train. It didn't strike me as too weird at the time, but now it's like an omen to the world that Turbo is coming.

EDIT: 13 is the one with the most "dial-up modem" internet tutorial and Hollywood hacking. 9 is the weirdly funny "trying hard to remain serious" one.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Oct 8, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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TFRazorsaw posted:

hey guys, question. Does anyone remember if Nico has access to her Ride Player Gashat after the finale of Ex-Aid, or did that go away when Kamen Rider Chronicle was cleared? I can't recall.

Chronicle still has powers after the final battle given Masamune's last seen moments, and the home movies might touch on that. However, the copies of Chronicle itself were likely seized by the government since the whole thing was a public health issue, and I don't think BurgerDad has any intention of printing more.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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RealFoxy posted:

This post is a wild ride for someone who doesn't know anything about Ex-Aide

Are you complaining that I'm not using spoiler tags? Because it's an old season. I'd do differently for Build.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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It doesn't matter what that movie looked like. They've done one PR movie that looked like someone threw money at all the stupid things in the show, one PR movie that looked like an episode of the TV show on a movie screen, and one PR movie that tried to reduce it's corny poo poo to dressing on an appealing CW drama.

None of it worked, though the third one was cut off at the knees by debuting opposite a Disney film.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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If you're looking at it from a western perspective, consider Takeshi Hongo is Japan's Tommy Oliver and it makes way more sense.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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It would be hilarious if these were the suits for Patoranger and we didn’t know it.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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They should have just continued to call him Bulk. Just amend the canon and say that at some point in life, Bulk travelled to the year 3000 and became a Power Ranger.

It’s not like it’s any less ridiculous than what Bulk has done in life already.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Yeah, I’m not tuned in enough on this fandom to know why that video is notable.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Waffleman_ posted:

Have you...not seen W?

It's on my list, but Ex-Aid was the first thing I watched and these shows are almost 50 episodes long with a shitload of extras. Presently between season 1 and 2 of Amazons, and taking a break for KR The First/Next films before going into that. And in the meantime there's Build/Kyuranger so yeah.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I'm watching KR The First right now, and man I see what you guys meant about Inoue.

I like that these robot guys stored both of their motorcycles somewhere on this boat though.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I'll admit I'm not woke enough to have strong opinion about women's representation in Transformers style toy commercial property beyond "it'd be nice, but if they want to write off half the children in Japan that's also their choice." I still maintain that a gender-swapped Kiriya who wasn't a living motorcycle (note to editors: in the future, the motorcycle is just a motorcycle) would been a great one.

The tragic backstory could be a "man in the refrigerator" reversal of the usual. And sure, Kiriya gets a fate that a lot of female characters get, but also already had the answers to defeat like all of the bad guys in the series and "death" was just the only setback encountered all series long. A gender-swapped Kiriya would have sampled the usual stereotypes just to destroy them.

That said, his actor is incredible so I'm not too broken up over it.

(edit: also, if you main a woman the main character, you remove one of my favorite production elements of KR, which is watching Takaiwa keep up with suit actors twenty years younger than him.)

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Oct 23, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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drrockso20 posted:

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they speed up the release schedule now that we'll be soon out of the first Saban era source series, especially if they ever want to tackle any of the pre Zyuranger series

Since they seem to be licensing this stuff from Saban Brands and not from Toei, I think what they'll release is whatever is offered to them.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Larryb posted:

Not to mention you've still got a lot of people thinking shows like that (and other attempts like VR Troopers, Beetleborgs and Syber Squad) are just Power Rangers "ripoffs" despite the source footage of a few of them actually predating or airing around the same time as Zyuranger and the only thing they really have in common is the fact that both feature costumed superheroes. I suppose it could still happen but not without a lot of work.
That's, uh, dated. Things that aren't Pokémon didn't succeed as well as Pokémon did in becoming a neverending beat of pop culture for the next 20 years, but Yu Gi Oh and Digimon did better than you'd think compared to the examples you listed above. As the streaming rights to stuff fractures away from Netflix/Hulu into a bunch of little incomplete services, you could possibly see one of them being interested in KR as a way to build a kids show. It would just have to rise above the anime niche and end up on something like actual Amazon Prime Video and not the lovely Anime Strike premium add-on.

Actually, Amazon is almost sort of the perfect partner for this sort of thing, not because of the deal already done for the two Amazons seasons (though I guess that's nice) but because they could probably deal with Bandai to be the exclusive toy retailer for a toy-driven thing on their streaming service.

Waffleman_ posted:

I don't think Masked Rider necessarily failed. Sure, it's remembered as being bad, but it did well enough to get a second season and finish out its story. I think the main reason we didn't see more Masked Rider was that there was simply nothing for them to adapt afterwards. The 89 Black RX footage already stood out like a sore thumb, so going backwards would be out of the question.
For all the rumor babbling about how much Ishinomori hated Masked Rider (often from the same Japan Experts that blame Saban for that Sailor Moon trailer) I think people forget that they were using the last episodes of a show that had been off the air for years and had no new episodes scheduled.

That show had no future.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 25, 2017

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Lizard Wizard posted:

gently caress Taiga.

After you reach Christmas you should watch the 3 part video on him. There’s technically a fourth part yet to be released, but it looks like it’s largely just bridging events before the show started with the first episode.

It puts his dickish desire to be the only Rider into better perspective.

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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coconono posted:

he's farther in than I am.

Are you the guy that pissed on it because of its suit design and watched Agito for its edgy angsty attitudes instead (I seem to remember thinking “mma avatar = 2hardcore”) because if so I’m very interested in your reaction posting

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