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Is it cool to hate GRRM because everyone likes him, or have we reached the point where its cool to like him because everyone hates him.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2017 20:56 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 20:54 |
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Stephen King is wonderful, and everyone should follow his Facebook. It's entirely recommendations for other horror, and pictures of his dog. quote:One of the main draws to this novel, and the series as a whole, is that Kvothe is the key that holds the story together. The great thing about the book, is that it has a main protagonist. quote:the kind of strong, poetic writing that you don’t even notice for how it slides across the page. Reading this language is a pleasure akin to savoring a mug of hot tea, or soaking in a bath, or smelling spring rain as it hits the grass The kind of writing you don't notice, just like [byword for something that you stop and take time to enjoy] It figures that a Rothfuss fan would himself be a dreadful writer.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 13:03 |
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Karnegal posted:For me, in the wake of Le Guin's passing, he's reading Embassytown, a novel she heaped praise upon. Awww, gently caress.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 11:01 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:The Edge Chronicles: The Curse of the Gloamglozer. Last of the Sky Pirates or gtfo. I don't care that they're kids books, Edge Chronicles is one of the few fantasy series that isn't ashamed to be fantastical, instead of "pre-Renaissance, but with wizards"
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2018 15:25 |
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How the flying gently caress is Naming unique? Le Guin did it half a century ago! VVVV Do poetry instead. Because even "good" fantasy books have awful, wretched poetry. Strom Cuzewon fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jul 23, 2018 |
# ¿ Jul 23, 2018 20:41 |
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anilEhilated posted:Y'know, I was rereading Earthsea while on vacation and it's pretty hilarious how much Rothfuss wanted to write the first book of that. It's his take on the entrance test that really niggles me. He takes a really succinctly written piece on humility and trust, and turns it into a Whedon-esque mess of "witty" banter.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 12:50 |
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I'm staggered by the political insight of someone who thinks "power is okay"
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 11:19 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Speaking of Paolini, have you pre-ordered the new Eragon book yet? Wrangling with suppliers! Exactly the kind of wondrous storytelling I like in my fantasy. Also, Alagaesia is a very stupid name.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2018 11:37 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Alagaësia, however, is very cool. I treat fantasy-accents the same way I treat fantasy-apostrophes - ignore them completely cos they probably don't do anything.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 19:32 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:According to the pronunciation guide at the back of the book, it canonically does nothing. Ah, but according to Paolini himself quote:Alagaësia (literally "fertile land") has two different pronunciations. I'm assuming NotW has dumb place names, but I literally cannot remember the name of any place or region in that book.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 20:22 |
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Rime posted:How much money can he possibly have at this point, though? The dude does not strike me as a savvy investor and we know he lost a ton on that stupid table startup. He's been living the high on the hog nerdlife for like a decade, his book sales must be dwindling, and the TV series seems dead. Surely he will have to pay back his advance on the third book if he doesn't poo poo something out in the near future? I think you're underestimating the amount of money he's made from uh....
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2018 23:27 |
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How do you shoot a scene where an elf is jumping on the heads of dwarves in barrels floating over a waterfall and make it so dour and boring?
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2018 17:58 |
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The way Stone-Splitter suddenly hurls his mask off and starts shouting makes me picture a 6 year old having a tantrum, not a big burly warrior.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2018 23:00 |
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Karnegal posted:
Mistborn really pissed me off with how badly written the fight scenes were. Everybody is spider-manning all over the place, flinging themselves crazily through the air, and it should be all graceful and frenetic. But aside from a few early fights it's written in such turgid detail that it's a boring slog to get through. So he even fails at being entertaining schlock.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2018 13:18 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Fourth is the map at the front. Rain shadows!
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2018 23:26 |
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Also it took him 7 years because he really wanted to gently caress about in a chemistry lab pretending to be an alchemist.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2018 19:59 |
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A Feast For Crows has all those feasts thrown in "honour" of the kingsguard dude, and is entirely a load of awkward silences as the Dornish pretend they don't want to gruesomely murder him. Only good part of the whole book.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2018 17:58 |
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mp5 posted:a BOTL-tier blow-by-blow of the whole thing I don't think anyone is labouring under the illusion that WMF actually has anything good though. Even the people who liked Notw's purple prose and urchin misery tended to recoil at the sex ninjas. A take down of a book that is commonly understood as awful isn't really necessary. What I'd like to see is a take down of various fantasy poems. I can recognise Rothfuss's poems as awful, and the Malazan poems really piss me off, but I know even less about poetry than I do about prose, and a take down of fantasy poems is at least an interesting angle to approach it from
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2018 00:39 |
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Only in the fantasy section of the bookstore can you get by with "setup books". Oh my god this. The number of fantasy books that are just moving pieces around to set up the next book is astonishingly frustrating. You could excise maybe 5 books of nothingness from Wheel of Time and still be left with one of the longest series (serieses?) of all time.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2018 21:50 |
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I don't see what's wrong with the webcomic, sure, it's twee as gently caress and a little self-satisfied, but sexpositivity is always a good thin..quote:In the comic, I caution newbies about the prevalence of racist cuckold material to be found on the internet. I personally see a distinction between racism and consensual race-play. Racism is bad! Thoughtfully playing with loaded power dynamics for mutual, consensual erotic stimulation is fine! Oh. Oh dear.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2018 00:18 |
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Hammer Bro. posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again -- don't listen to the people who like what you like. Find the people who hate what you hate. "What do you hate? By this you are truly known" - Duke Leto Atreides
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2019 21:38 |
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Captain Hotbutt posted:
"it's as beautiful as a really beautiful thing" Did Edmund Blackadder write that review?
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2019 23:22 |
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As much as it's cool to hate on Grrm I think he does some pretty cool stuff. On a basic plot level he's definitely good at setting up conflicted characters and then smashing them together. But I like how he uses different approaches to fantasy as an exploration of political fiction. Ned and Sansa think the world is entirely an arthurian romance of noble knights and wise queens, and they consistently get outplayed by their enemies. But at the same time, Jaime and the Hound reject this, and frame everything in a very cynical, Abercrombie style, where everyone is petty and lecherous and violent, and this massively limits their influence on the world. It'd be easy for Grrm to call one of these worldviews correct and the other incorrect, but I like that he acknowledges the importance of political fictions. The most successful house is Tyrell, which is able to juggle the constructed world of nobility along with the brutal savagery of feudalism. Its a much more nuanced take on power than any modern fantasy I've seen.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2019 00:54 |
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pseudanonymous posted:How is "being all dead" the most successful in your mind? They're alive and kicking in the books.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2019 18:58 |
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I'm the dude who's reaction to terrifying displays of power is to concentrate very hard on his word choice
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2019 16:06 |
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Gitro posted:So this is the passage and in short I misremembered and you're right That scene would be immeasurably improved if Kvothe's gimmick was that he was the world champion Sailor's Hornpipe player.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2019 19:26 |
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SO has anyone read Patrick Rothfuss's "Rick and Morty play Dungeons and Dragons" and is it as excruciatingly awful as that combination of words makes it sound?
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2019 22:28 |
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Also the inquisition, right next to the Wizard school. Who, or what, are they inquisiting?
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 15:16 |
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ElGroucho posted:That's a lot of words to say not a goddamn thing I always joke that reviews are slowly turning into "this is a good book because it has the quality of being good" and I never expected it to be done so literally.
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 14:03 |
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HIJK posted:I'm almost tempted to listen to it but I suspect Sanderson does most of the substantial talking while Rothfuss would only have the occasional point. Listened to the Rothfuss episode at the gym - it's a load of bland nothingness. I don't have any creative writing experience to put it in context, but they seem to give the shittest, most surface level advice about keeping in mind structure and the rules of your world. Rothfuss' biggest contribution is making another creepy "characters are like your high-school crush, or your wife of ten years, or that holiday in morocco where you meet a dark eyed beautiful woman" and just kind of blithering and trying to backpedal at the slightest pushback when one of the hosts tells him its a weird thing to say.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 17:45 |
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God I love when my uneducated judgemental opinions turn out to be justified. Now, let me tell you how Corbyn should have won.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2020 18:30 |
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Kchama posted:I'm just now reminded of that scene where he attempted to have a conversation that passes the Bechtdel test or however it's spelled and completely fails because the conversation is both about men and the other woman is not actually in the scene, and their dialogue is never actually shown. Wait, what? My brain is just sliding off this.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 10:39 |
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PJOmega posted:That's really disappointing, I loved Planescape Torment when I was younger. Planescape is just as tortuously overwritten, but actually manages to be about stuff. Numenera is completely bogged down by its need to be portentous and meaningful. Although I remember Rothfuss' character being the best of the companions, which is either damning him with faint praise, or just plain damning.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2020 21:26 |
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Also the tables are hideous and look pretty awful to actually play on.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 22:58 |
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PJOmega posted:Wait, isn't the beat poetry nerd porn Rothfuss's? What did Ernest Cline write in the same vein? Ernest loving Cline posted:Nerd Porn Auteur
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 21:26 |
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They're completely different! Rothfuss compared nerd-products to sexually attractive women, Cline is comparing sexually attractive women to nerd-products.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 22:41 |
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I cover it in more detail in my LP Thread. It's weird scifi psychic bullshit for everything except the creeper (who believes he has a right to the woman because he raised her from the dead) but its described in terms as "violation" and "forced me". I'm only halfway through it, but I'm really enjoying the LP. Especially the skewering of the pretentious, bloated writing. Dear god, so many unneccesary words. It's similar to this poo poo: Ccs posted:I was contemplating the success of this book again and the reasons its prose gets praise and came across this bit about its most famous passage: In that the writing spends more time and effort on being clever than it does on being good. It's tripping over itself trying to pile in more metaphors, more disjointed imagery, that any actual emotion or tone gets completely garbled. The only bit of dialogue that had any emotional impact on me is with the kids selling songs: quote:"Why are sad songs cheaper than happy songs?" It's not a stunning insight, but that kind of laconic, adult answer coming from a street urchin tells me much more about the kid of trauma and struggle the kid's had than reams of turgid descriptions. Look at the Animorphs thread - the writing is pretty simplisitc, but it trusts that the character's emotions and conflicts are enough to keep your interest (and it's characters actually have conflicts and emotions). Some of the best bits of say, Abercrombie or Erikson are when they stop trying to copy Joss Whedon and/or Jack Vance and give the reader room to actually feel something (like the sacrifice of Weakest, or Malazan's many scenes of mourning)
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 19:39 |
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Donkey posted:Don't forget the part in the books where Not-Rothfuss criticizes his any-resemblance-to-a-real-person-is-totally-coincidental University chemistry TA because of his perverse insistence on writing down the results of experiments instead of just mixing up magic potions. supposedly a loving adult posted:And I learn some interesting things. I learn that the name “metheglin” comes from the old English term for medicine. Metheglin was mead with a bunch of herbs in it. Because, as you know, herbs are good for you. I think I know why he failed ChemEng
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2020 10:30 |
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pentyne posted:I hate to be all "classic Liberal arts major" but he really embodies the stereotypes that everyone hates about the literati type who scoff and mock the idea of 'rigid thinking' when it comes to any development process. Also the fantasy of pre-industrial societies as a bunch of morons who just slapped things together and everything always worked so who needs all this big brain notebook stuff? Nah, he has the same lackadaiscal low-effort approach to writing as he does to to chemistry. I guess it stands out a bit more as we expect scientists to be rigorous and careful and there's no as much emphasis on the idea of writing as craftmanship that takes time and practice to hone.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2020 11:02 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 20:54 |
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Based on that quote alone I feel very confident in predicting that style of sofa didn't exist until the 1920s.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2020 19:27 |