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Oct 31, 2017 15:11
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St Evan Echoes posted:Bryan, what’s 1 + 1? Then he blames it on how Vince thinks.
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Oct 31, 2017 20:19
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Lid posted:hearing Dave and Bryan talk about Paulo Costa's physicque and how he can be a superstar and not even mention that his body looked like Vitor Belfort on a bender and acting like he was au naturale was really depressing You've got some depression issues if you need more steroid talk in your life, especially when it involves The Eraser.
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Nov 6, 2017 13:55
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mkay0 posted:It’s extremely unlikely that a guy making what he makes could spend enough to beat USADA. Even the rich guys get caught occasionally. The drugs are always trying to stay a step ahead of the testing and some guys just get lucky until they get caught. But the Eraser is clean all hail Brazil.
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Nov 6, 2017 13:59
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mariooncrack posted:Today is the 20th anniversary of the Montreal Screwjob so part one of the observer covering it was posted today. There's another in depth issue from late 98 when Shadows of Wrestling came out. I think that one was from December. Great stuff.
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Nov 10, 2017 03:54
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Jerusalem posted:Meltzer mentioned on WOL he would like to get that up tomorrow and Bryan said they could probably have it up by next week - it's supposedly the complete audio transcript of the Vince/Bret lockerroom confrontation It's already up, it's in the normal archive.
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Nov 10, 2017 13:59
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PaybackJack posted:17~ years ago there was a prowrestling site with a guy on it named something like Dan 'The WCW Mark' something. He wrote a fake article about Bret Hart getting screwed throughout his day; which if you read it in Bret's cadence was hilarious. Sorry the only funny things written about wrestling were The Adventures of The nWo B-Team. ...that and GH and Joe's Nitro/Raw reviews.
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Nov 10, 2017 18:57
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I wish those reviews were still online. They were the best part of Prodigy Classic wrestlechat. Well, making fun of Bob Ryder to his face...
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Nov 10, 2017 19:09
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mkay0 posted:Dave doesn’t seem to have poo poo for sources in WWE when Jericho and Heyman aren’t there. He’s was way behind on the locker room illness story, and his reporting on KO/Sami breaks zero new ground on the info give by Mike and Ryan’s reporting or Pat Laprade’s Twitter. He was right about what Reigns had while others were misreporting it. Also was reporting on Jinder's shoulder injury very early. I was going to say he broke the SS main event too but I guess that involves Lesnar.
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Nov 10, 2017 22:24
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mkay0 posted:Jinder’s physique changed, and Dave recognized it, because the same thing happened to his shoulder years ago, so I can’t really count that as a scoop. You do realize he's not lying when he says he talks to WWE and gets injury updates.
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Nov 10, 2017 22:34
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The Walter interview is great.
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Nov 11, 2017 02:19
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mkay0 posted:Something that anyone in wrestling media could do? And in that same time period he knew weeks in advance that AJ Styles was facing Shane at Wrestlemania, that Orton was winning the Rumble and facing Bray, and basically the whole direction for months before it came out, along with return windows for Finn and others.
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Nov 11, 2017 21:37
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Lid posted:Watching Labor insist on kicking an own goal over citizenship when it comes to referring their own members going No No lalalalala will be the most Bill Shorten thing. You got gifted the moral high ground now lets make sure we are the villains and appear as obfuscating piss possums. Agreed.
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Nov 13, 2017 00:09
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KungFu Grip posted:I gotta know, did Bryan have no idea who Walter was He just saw a WALTER match.
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Nov 13, 2017 04:44
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Jerusalem posted:Bryan: Okay let's move on to the rest of the news. You missed Dave starting to answer the question and Bryan interrupting to change the question.
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Nov 14, 2017 15:38
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There's a Leo Nomellini obituary in the latest back issue.
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Nov 14, 2017 21:08
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Lid posted:How Kurt didn't win the WON rookie of the year award in 1999 (Blitzkrieg did) is lifes biggest mystery. Kurt Angle winning that year would have been completely idiotic.
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Nov 16, 2017 01:51
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Tom Zenk loving sucked though Uh, no he was really good.
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Nov 16, 2017 03:37
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He was a good worker and a beloved (and probably problematic in retrospect) WOL guest.
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Nov 16, 2017 04:29
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Konnan was a beloved WOR guest so I think the standards here are somewhat low Konnan asked Bryan Alvarez questions so that was cool. Tom Zenk was legitimately an eyada era phenom, people loved him, thought his appearances were the funniest thing and demanded more of him. Standards for wrestling humor are obviously low but drat was that dude popular in the MNW era IWC.
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Nov 16, 2017 05:08
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Feels Villeneuve posted:honestly I thought "Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine was loving great" would be a more controversial opinion for me to hold than "Tom 'The Z Man' Zenk sucked rear end" Greg was good until he was bad. Also I forgot to not ask Dave if he has "memories" of something but specifics about business, I still know almost nothing about CCW.
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Nov 16, 2017 17:03
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I've gotta say I have become really let down by Karl Stern's Longform History of Wrestling. He's hit the late 30s and it is basically still just reading off match results. Very little about how territories have formed and how the business is developing. It was fine for eras where we don't know much beyond the results and some news clippings but we have a ton of info on the 20s and 30s.
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Nov 22, 2017 05:31
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:as someone who loves the biker taker/flair feud, i can't argue with this. It's super dated, and people have seen the rise and fall out of suburban biker worship, but poo poo like Monster Garage and Chopper Build Challenge were in the American mainstream culture. I also think Rollin' is the reason they scoff at Biker taker in hindsight, but I think that's people hiding from their teenage copy of Hot Dogs and Chocalate Starfish. This stuff was all big in the culture but given the immense amount of money they spent on the character it flopped as Undertaker was nowhere near the draw during that period as he was before or after.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:37
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:Ah, that clears it up. At the same time it would have been almost impossible for him to be as hot as he was against Austin. Realistically it wasn't really possible for him to be the respected elder statesman either so it may not be fair to judge.
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Nov 23, 2017 23:01
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It seems weird but also fitting that Taker arguably has the best and the worst Mania matches of all time Also Bret Hart.
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Nov 24, 2017 04:06
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Jerusalem posted:I know AJ has been wrestling forever but it does seem kinda early to be putting him into the Hall of Fame when it's likely he still has several years of absolutely top-level performances in him. He does but it's much better to have wrestlers voted on as close to their prime as possible. Look at the arguments over Sgt. Slaughter. I don't think he should be in because his peak wasn't quite long enough, but at this point we're 35 years removed from it. It's so hard to judge him as most active wrestlers would know his WWF run more.
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Nov 25, 2017 04:47
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rovert posted:"Acts" seems pretty deliberate. He could just say inductees no? I was thinking Jimmy Hart when I read the verbiage but Dave Brown makes more sense.
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Nov 25, 2017 04:51
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I'm this close to tweeting at Satin and asking him why he tried to steal Milky Ways.
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Nov 25, 2017 21:39
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Dave Meltzer: Global warming is actually good. Well, actually it is bad.
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Nov 26, 2017 18:52
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Lid posted:Tully and Arn got less votes than Edge thats just not right They deserve less votes than Edge.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:54
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Lid posted:nope They were a team for a short run where Edge had a historically important and influential team, was a great worker and a decent draw. Lid posted:It's 20 years on and people can still recall Jericho's WCW heel run, Y2J, first undisputed champion (lol), glitter jacket, scarves, the list... A really big successful run after Cena's injury in 2007.
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Nov 30, 2017 15:39
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Randaconda posted:Eh, if Jericho and Rey is in, Orton might as well be. Rey is a much bigger star than Orton and frankly Jericho. Rey made WWE the #1 promotion in Mexico for about 5 years and let them do huge drawing house show tours there along with big ratings.
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Nov 30, 2017 16:05
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SatoshiMiwa posted:
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Nov 30, 2017 16:33
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PaybackJack posted:Agreed. That he'd want Edge to be in and not want someone like Goldberg is his clear bias for work rate over drawing power. Sting was way better and a bigger draw than Edge too. Edge was a bigger draw than Sting come the gently caress on. Goldberg was a draw for two six month periods in his career. Sting played to empty houses for 90% of his 25 year career. Edge drew consistently above average houses on a brand that had been in the toilet for big periods of the aughts.
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Nov 30, 2017 16:56
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Feels Villeneuve posted:He may arguably have Worst Match and Worst Feud as well. Worst feud should really be Pierroth vs Diamante Azul but it doesn't have a prayer.
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Nov 30, 2017 18:42
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Jinder was most overpushed and that's what the award is now. It's what the award has always been, it literally can't be "most overrated by the fans" since how the hell would they vote for that.
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Dec 1, 2017 04:27
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Outside of Conor who'd be next in line for Draw of the Year though? WWE house show attendance is dropping and Mania is sold on name alone. Okada or Naito I guess cause they've grown New Japan business, and maybe someone from CMLL. Micro Man sold out Arena Mexico in his first match.
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mkay0 posted:Just as easy to quantify as ‘most over-pushed’. Cody and the Bucks are the easy answer there. If you are a fan and are voting for who the fans think is the most overrated in a fan voted award it is impossible for the winner to be the person the fans are overrating the most.
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Good Listener posted:Listening to Saturday's observer like...I really do not agree with much of what Dave says about Randy Orton staying on top when he's literally one of those "boss's choice" boys for years. But he's a Vince guy who actually drew money. Beyond his hot run in late 07 through early 08, he did some big business in the lead up to WrestleMania 25, and that show itself was a big success, it almost did a million buys without a major celebrity attraction.
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