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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Speaking of linking, I mentioned this ruling in another thread and was asked for a link but I'm posting it here to avoid further derailing the original thread.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-people-cosby/u-s-appeals-court-rejects-cosby-accusers-bid-to-revive-defamation-suit-idUKKBN1CN36J

"The decision found that McKee had made herself a public figure by wading into the controversy with Cosby, rejecting her claim that her dispute with the entertainer was a private one. As a public figure, McKee would have to prove that Cosby acted with malice in his response."

It's a 1st circuit ruling so it is only binding to the lower courts in the extreme NE of the country, but it's going to be viewed and argued as precedent throughout the country.

Its effectively giving defense teams carte blanche to smear accusers since malice is almost impossible to prove in a civil trial.

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Washington Post published an article last night about harassment associated with Ted Talks;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...m=.7095acdb7602

It starts off in line with expectations, about how the conferences are just miserable for a lot of women, and then mentions how leadership decided to start talking about the issue;

quote:

"The TED officials also expressed worries about the complaints becoming public.

“It seems 51 percent chance or more that there will be at least social media posts about the issue if not articles (What is our response),” Rielly wrote. "

Before mentioning harassment problems the company has had itself;

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Jordan Reeves, a former junior staffer, said in an interview that while he was working at the organization, he was harassed by Rielly in 2014. Rielly told him “incredibly” explicit jokes at work and told him that his “rear end looked nice” in jeans.

“I was hearing from everybody, men and women alike, about misconduct,” Reeves said. “It seemed so systemic that I was overwhelmed.”

Reeves said he complained about the incidents to Anderson and another executive, telling them that “if things don’t change systemically I’m going to leave.”

Anderson replied that Rielly was only joking and asked Reeves to keep the conversation between them, according to Reeves.

Reeves, who said he cried during the meeting, gave notice about six months later.

and

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In 2014, TED offered to settle a sexual harassment case for about $31,000 with a young woman who worked on one of the organization’s digital marketing teams, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

The woman’s lawyer told Anderson that the woman’s boss had repeatedly asked her about her sex life, according to a May 2014 complaint she filed to TED, which was obtained by The Post.

After she reported the misconduct, her boss took her off some accounts she had developed — a move she saw as retaliatory, according to the complaint. That document also alleges that TED had initially asked her to keep working for the same boss.

TED did not comment on the settlement.

The Anderson mentioned is Ted Anderson, owner and founder of the company and Tom Rielly Director of Partnerships and the guy that delivers the closing speech of the conferences every year.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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You would have thought she'd have learned from this exact thing happening to Amy Schumer just over a year ago.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Timeless Appeal posted:

2002 Louis CK was an average comedian who made jokes about having dreams in Spanish with only a middle school understanding of the language. When we talk about CK we have to remember that this is a dude who apparently did this well before being a household name. Louis didn't get away with it because he was a big deal in 2002. He got away with it because he was well ingrained in a community.

He wasn't well known to public but he was a huge deal already in the comedy world. In 2002 Louis had already spent a decade writing for Conan O'Brien, Letterman and Chris Rock. He was super well-connected and, at that time, the careers of two of his discoveries Steven Colbert and Steven Carell were taking off fast. He had a reputation of making stars even then.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I wouldn't take what Branum says to be gospel, the guy has some persecution issues. He wrote an article publishing Chelsea Clinton's dorm hall and room and called for the Berkeley student body to show their pride and March to the stadium over her broken and bloody corpse. He then acts like he's the aggrieved party in the situation when the Secret Service showed up at his front door with a warrant. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/12/01/time/notebook.html

If he did get booted off a show (and it would be the Daily Show, Politically Incorrect moved to ABC in '98) it's probably due more to his bridge burning when he got fired from Chelsea Handler's show.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I believe she just renegotiated a year or two ago. There were a couple of 'leaked' stories about her audaciously asking for the same money as Spacey that backfired on the studio and got public opinion on her side.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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21 Muns posted:

I think it's a pretty reasonable way to discourage sexual assault from strangers, it's just that that happens to form a minority of sexual assaults.

I do like the Bojack Horseman episode on this very topic if men had to suddenly worry if the woman they're about to harass is packing it would force a decision about which they care about more; loving guns or hating women.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Timby posted:

Bourdain did his fair share of hard living. But, as GonSmithe rightfully pointed out, he got out of working in kitchens and became a writer / TV host, quit everything except booze a while back, and I believe he's currently dating Asia Argento after his most recent divorce.

Replace 'after' with 'causing' and you have the right of it.


I really think Bourdain is getting unfairly lionized on this. Batali being a creep wasn't even an open secret, it was a reported on and exposed fact. Between Heat and multiple stolen wage lawsuits against the guy, over the course of 10+ years he had stolen over $5million in tips and wages from his servers, there was no way Bourdain wasn't turning a blind eye. And then, when he pointed out that no one should be surprised by this Tom Collichio gets blasted to hell and back for not speaking up.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 12, 2017

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Not that it couldn't have happened but I was always inclined to dismiss that rumor because it seems to be from a FWD:FWD:FWD chain, the producer is never named and;
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/02/24/guy-fieri-gay-weddings-miami/23959839/

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Not Operator posted:

When pressed about these allegations, Logan said in a telephone interview with HK01, "I definitely never forced myself on anybody, never had to force myself on anybody."

Imagine not being able to deny sexual assault allegations without turning it into a weird loving brag. Good thing it was a phone interview, or they would have seen him reaching for his high five.

Isn't that what killed Cee-Lo Green's career even before all this started? Like he claimed even if he didn't drug his victim she still would have slept with him.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Yeah, most states require RAMP certification to cover any issues that come up from checking IDs before you can legally tend bar. Corner bars tend to look the other way on it but the more you make the more the state's LCB is going to pay attention to you.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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viral spiral posted:

Family Guy is your source? :lol:

Yeah, the Spacey joke was in Family Guy not because it was an open secret he was a predator but because there was an urban legend that Spacey was seen chasing a naked boy down a street by his house, it was always seen on the same level as Richard Gere and his fun time activities with hamsters.

As for World Police making jokes about casting directors, as long as Hollywoo has been casting people there have jokes about the casting couch.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Darko posted:

Comedy needs context and tone to *get* where someone is going with a joke, and can't really be judged by excerpts and quotes. See the initial news reporting about Chapelle's show before anyone actually saw it.

Yeah, I remember not really being on Dave's side until I saw the skit that made him quit the show. Then you can see where he's coming from by freaking out about it being a skit written by his white lead writer, filmed by a predominantly white crew and feeling like he's making a minstrel show.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Al Borland Corp. posted:

What skit was it?

It was the one where Dave is on the plane and he's offered fried chicken as a meal. Then Dave doing a Steppin Fetchit impersonation appears on his shoulder telling to calm down and enjoy them good eats.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I swear to Christ you couldn't sound more like a lovely millennial in a CBS sit com if you tried.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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21 Muns posted:

it has been since before there was any good reason to think Weinstein-style sexual abuse is so rampant in the entertainment industry,

Just because people are acting surprised that it was going on doesn't mean it wasn't known. As long as there's been a Hollywood there's been rumors and innuendo about the casting couch. The only difference is that now women are fed up about it being treated as a punch line instead of something horrible. I mean Disneyland had a casting couch joke in the park.


In fact, here's a Slate article about an expose about it from 56, http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/10/13/_1956_casting_couch_expos_shows_little_has_changed.html

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jan 23, 2018

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Never had to deal with in my course load. I did adjust all of my papers to reinforce the professors published works however. Always worked to bump my grade up 1-1 1/2 letter grades.

I don't know if it still is, but English was vastly the preferred major for students planning on going into law.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Magic Hate Ball posted:

Haven't we already had an Alec Baldwin moment?

Yeah but it didn't last long enough for his ego so he wants another.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Well they're really hoping people don't remember that their company was cofounded by an alt-right/mra airbag so what's one more thing to try and gloss over.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Timby posted:

I believe when the movie came out, people in Hollywood weren't trying to figure out if it was based on real people, but which ones. (I think the consensus eventually came down to Joel Silver?)

Yeah, Huang has said that everything Frank Whaley goes through is something he and other ap's went through.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Not Operator posted:

Am I wrong or did Ted Nugent not do the same thing to seemingly no reprecussions.

e: just googled it, I'm kinda wrong. She was 17 and he adopted her and I feel grosser for having put this back into my memory.

You were right the first time, Nugent's daughters have said he would occasionally bring 12 year olds home and lock them in his room for days.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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He bears actual ultimate responsibility if the chain of command is working. Tarantino says that if there was anyone expressing doubts about the car he didn't hear it from his subordinates.

Now I could certainly see Tarantino creating an atmosphere where those subordinates would be afraid to say anything to him that would upset the schedule. Especially if the shooting schedule still reflected a safe straightaway.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Yeah, I was with McGowan until she started blasting #MeToo as a corrupt marketing ploy by CAA. Even if it is, it's doing God's work and achieving some results.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Bolingbroke posted:

Very interesting (and melancholy) article on Brendan Fraser and his absence from big Hollywood films: https://www.gq.com/story/what-ever-happened-to-brendan-fraser

The HFPA claim they're investigating Fraser's assault allegations against their former president, Philip Berk: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/hfpa-investigating-brendan-fraser-sexual-assault-claims/

And of course James Woods jumps onto this dog pile saying this agent is the one that blackballed him from Hollywood. Not because the agent harassed him, Woods is way too masculine for that to happen, but because Woods told Berk that he wouldn't vote for Hillary.


https://m.newstimes.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/James-Woods-Joins-Brendan-Fraser-by-Sharing-His-12657010.php

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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esperterra posted:

He has 3, I think.

Yeah, but the rate was set in the mid-00's when he was still making decent money off of Mummy and Journey to the ... residuals.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Bar Crow posted:

Or gaslighting. Based on a play from the 30s and the adapted movies from the 40s.

Or getting All About Eve'd if you get SWF'd on a professional level.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Wasn't "Aww Shucks" a catchphrase for one of Tom Hanks' recurring SNL characters?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Electric Bugaloo posted:

Just saying, a handful of crops and restraints seems like a pretty vanilla “BDSM horror closet” although maybe don’t put that stuff in the same guest room people are staying in.

Keeping museumesque “guest rooms” and dens that never get used seems like something my mom would do if she had the money and property. She really loves decorating and the idea of entertaining but has also struggled with anxiety and depression for decades and gets really stressed about cleanliness and doesn’t really have many friends that she sees regularly outside of work.

The dishes stuff is some real Howard Hughes poo poo tho.

Maybe she has a side gig of renting her house out to film porn. The couch covers are just out of consideration to any guests that sit on them after.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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exquisite tea posted:

This means some horrible story is going to come out in t-minus 48 hours isn't it.

That or Sumner Redstone's on his deathbed.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Fart City posted:

I’d always heard vague things, but his repeated grooming of sixteen year old girls? The child porn? That’s all new to me. Like I knew he was a creep, but I didn’t know he was a full-blown sex monster.

Yeah, I just wrote a lot of the creepiness in his shows off as mental damage from repressed homosexuality.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Weird that an article about suicide would impose itself on a M*A*S*H* discussion.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Snowman_McK posted:

It is a pretty good joke seeing as Harrison Ford has had a series of leading women much younger than himself and married someone 22 years younger.

And once threw a poo poo fit when one of those much much younger co stars was a lesbian.

Though to be fair, that wasn’t about his personal believes but him thinking the extra controversy would sink a film that needed all the help it could get.

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Len posted:

When are people gonna learn those dogs all think face meat is the best meat?

It’s not?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Yeah, it seems like misdirection has already been started up, items about her sliding into DMs of her underage fans have started showing up on sites like CDAN.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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There is, what I’m saying is the studio fixers are trying to cloud the waters by discrediting her and sending the veiled threat of ‘outing’ her if she doesn’t cool it.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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That’s sounds pretty solicited.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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PenguinKnight posted:

that's new to me :stare:

I thought it was his step-niece? And it was more of a tabloid accusation that he refused to respond to. Still really disgusting but not incest disgusting.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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dont even fink about it posted:

Comedians and writers tend to run a boys club and it's been going on so long that the boys don't even bother to explain themselves when confronted directly on television about it, or pretend that it's all egalitarian until someone confronts them with data.

https://www.glamour.com/story/tina-fey-expertly-called-out-david-letterman-on-his-lack-of-female-writers

Jon Stewart talked about this a bit in his post CK interviews. A big part of it, for the Daily Show but I can see this keep repeating, was using a headhunter service to find writers. Jon just gave the service the direction of “find me funny people.” They want to make their commission for the minimum of work so they contact people that are going to remind the head writer of them self. It was pretty interesting how incestuous it is without people actually trying to be exclusive, it’s just them being lazy and taking the path of least resistance.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Judakel posted:

A million Louis CKs all in a circle.

I remember that scene from Dante’s Divine Comedy. None of the Louis’s had elbows, right?

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Sir Kodiak posted:

I thought this turned out to just be casting someone as Polanski, given his tangential involvement in the Manson murders.

I’m pretty sure having your wife and unborn child murdered makes you a little more than tangentially involved.

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