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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

qhat posted:

No loving chance you're getting £80k in London unless you're a technical lead. 2 years should expect no more than 45k imho.

80k before or after taxes?

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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i am hoping to jump from $140k after tax to $230k after tax. wish me luck.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Emacs Headroom posted:

good luck.

post your location / job title -- also how much is base vs. bonus vs stock? I'm at 260 base + 128k rsus in SF (just started new job)

thanks :)

this isn’t the us

current job is basically a fancy security janitor in energy field. hopeful job is a director (!) in a huge local managed service provider.

as u can guess nepotism is involved. i was having lunch at some relatives’ and one of them, a c level at that msp, came to me with the opportunity out of the blue. he was like “hey you are a techie right? we need someone to fill the role of director of xxxxx. whatsapp me ur resume”

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

meatpotato posted:

man, life in 1995 is great --my savings account has a 5.5% apy, my parents arent divorced, all my grandparents are alive, and i saw the view from the top of the world trade center last fall when my family took a totally-average-for-1995 annual vacation to nyc.

in all honesty I probably won't get *that good* at assembly --intel or people at llvm won't be knocking down my door any time soon. also, assembly language isn't going to be a thing that makes me stand out when i apply to jobs, especially when most new CS grads will gracelessly throw assembly on their resumes because they took a quarter-long intro to programming class that used the LC-3 to do an integer factorization assignment.

asm is a piece of the computing stack i haven't really explored before and it seems interesting. I like doing things involving real hardware and i also like learning about computer security so assembly kind of fits into those themes. it's not really about the job search.


interesting take. I bet the recruiting cycle thing applies more to larger companies with cyclic financial plans than smaller ones without that structure, but what do I know? Regardless, I don't know what companies I will be applying to in six months so I'll remember your advice when nobody replies to my resume.

if you are set on using assembly why don't you try applying to be a reverse engineer at an infosec company? i hear there is good money to be made there and there is a talent shortage\

e: also from personal experience inforsec people are mostly approachable on twitter. you can get your foot the door in that way.

Workaday Wizard fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jan 17, 2018

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Captain Foo posted:

a suit is correct or at least not wrong unless you are interviewing at some weird west coast dudebro shop in which case rethink your job application entirely

💯 :agreed:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
lol. just lol. if you think women are judged less than men based on their clothes during interviews. it’s not even close.

i’ve seen women rejected for their frikkin perfumes.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
there is pressure on women to smell nice though 😑

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

MononcQc posted:

I've seen a lot of students just put their homework on github once it had been turned in.

lmao i can imagine some dick professor giving them an f and raising a complaint against the student for sharing answers

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Xarn posted:

Reading this thread from a socialist hellhole with free education feels real nice right now. :v:

:same:

in turn ship? what’s that 🧐

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
:justpost:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

anatoliy pltkrvkay posted:

how to succeed on your take home interview: use your demo enterprise account to submit high-priority support tickets asking for assistance on your take home questions.

it did work for about a day until i complained to the department attempting to hire this candidate that they hadn't properly onboarded this particular "customer"

lol

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
if you ever think you are not good enough to do something look at the idiot morons already doing it and remove that stupid idea from your mind

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
hi. i am fully employed.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
you would be right in 2000 or whatever but now that famous noob and hipste language python has acceptable web server libraries there is absolutely no need to go with php

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
the manager two levels from me is being poached by our parent company and i am sad :(
he shielded us from so much bullshit i miss him already. you can tell he is a really good manager because the ceo of the parent company had a big fight with our management to get him by name.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Pollyanna posted:

- whats your work life balance like? (expectation of 50+ hour workweeks + getting snippy with you when you express your belief in a good work life balance -> no, btw ask me how i came to this conclusion)

ooh i love story time. tell us :allears:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Pollyanna posted:

is it disingenuous to market myself as 2 years of rails exp if I haven’t touched it in over a year?

cause I’m paranoid of people asking me obscure rails trivia as a screening/technical q

you suffered rails and ruby for 2 years and by god you should put it in your resume if you are seeking a rails or ruby job

if you're worried about interview questions just do some rails poo poo until you remember

if you are worried about looking dishonest or something put the date of the job where you used rails. though i advice against putting dates in resumes since it makes them look dated.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

this would make me *very* grumpy

do you have access to the ceo? just walk in there and tell them they’re poo poo is garbage

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Pollyanna posted:

one (1) crazy hack to be unemployed that housewives absolutely hate

qhat is already quitting tho.

or am i thinking of someone else?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
gently caress you

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

lol at this gross nerd

gently caress you

qhat posted:

If you can never find a company that does things correctly, it's you, you're the problem.

gently caress you too buddy

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
godspeed to you Ator. i hope you can get a chillaxed environment away from gamedev (or at least abusive shops)

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

he is never going to find an environment that gives him a knee height desk, a swamp atmosphere, and a twice-hourly arby's drivethrough run

so? that means it’s ok to make fun of people with medical conditions??

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
without knowing their exact condition please refrain from being dicks

medical conditions can be weird as gently caress. at least this person went to the doctors.

two months ago if you told me there was a condition where a person will pluck their head bald including their eyebrows i wouldn’t believe you, but i’ve seen it as with my own eyes (it was a young lady too :( ).

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Rex-Goliath posted:

... The second instance was the guy who some of you may remember from the cjs thread...

the cjs thread moves faster than a cheetah with a jet engine rammed up its rear end. anyone got a link for this one?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Rex-Goliath posted:

it's from a while ago- sometime mid-last year.

basically the guy had absolutely no idea what he was doing and compensated for it by being a colossal dick to everyone. any time he'd say something stupid and someone politely disagreed with him he'd turn it around to trying to make it seem like the person disagreeing was supremely incompetent for even making the suggestion.

on top of that he was the type of dude who saw trump's 'power' handshake and thought that it seemed like a great idea. one day i walked into my office to find him sitting at my desk with all my stuff all over the ground. i asked him wtf and he said he was told it was cool for him to use my desk. i told him I had to use my desk so he got up and walked away leaving my office a mess.

later that day he came back in and tried to take my keyboard as i was using it claiming that it was his

yeah they fired him

they should’ve fired the recruiter and the hr too. sheesh

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
TRAINS?!?!?!?????!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lutNECOZFw

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Fiedler posted:

Ah, yes, that's right. I forgot some humans enjoy living in hives.

i find the size and density of cities doesn’t matter nearly as much as how much open space it has and how wide and walkable the streets are.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

qhat posted:

This is a real pro tip. If anyone wants you to do something, request that they do another tiny reasonable thing to get the ball rolling and watch how you never hear from them again.

i can’t find the nodding emoticon so this will have to do
:megadeath:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
think of the poo poo that you can only do at nvidia. so jealous 😭

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Pollyanna posted:

so what does “we are growing quickly” truly mean and how come companies like to overextend themselves so much?

gently caress making good products or services. ROI for the investors bithccccc

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
the trick to interviewing is to arrive so tired you don’t have the energy for self doubt

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

HoboMan posted:

so I've never done this before, how do you sneak off for interviews during the week?

"i have an appointment". don't elaborate.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

St Evan Echoes posted:

i have to wait until summer to move because i got a pretty good bonus this year but they claim it back if you leave within 6 months of receipt :smith:

wait what the gently caress?

the bonus is for work already done. how can they claim it? is this even legal?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

TerminalRaptor posted:

interview on friday went pretty well I thought, but I'm also pretty confident it's a no for me if they want to move forward.

whiteboarding was definitely different compared to the larger orgs I've interviewed at. It was mostly a high level design session and was actually enjoyable once I understood what we were designing. that being said it's probably too small of a shop for me based on what I'm used to. I'd have a ton of responsibility, and given my current situation, I'd like to have a slight reprieve from that for a little while. that being said it, sounds like they have a lot of potential if they can successfully execute.

there were a few red flags I saw as well. the minor stuff was the interview was downtown and they didn't offer to validate my parking. I was also supposed to meet with the owner as part of the interview schedule I was given, they were on vacation, and I was never given an updated schedule(talking with my buddy who works there it was known this individual was going to be out). I won't share the technical red flags. the senior dev I talked to was a really cool guy though. the pay would be obscenely better than what I'm getting now too, but I don't think it would be worth the other stress (not that I don't have bad stress right now).

maybe it’s because i’m detached from your situation but your nontechnical red flags don’t look like red flags to me.

parking validation? never seen a place that does that. you will get the employee parking later so it doesn’t matter.

meeting the owner? are you a business partner, an investor, or a potential c level? no? then why do you expect to meet them even if they were free and bored.

the guy was on vacation? it happens. unless they are a process heavy company they probably didn’t notice/care that the guy was on leave.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Valeyard posted:

gently caress academia

I've not been stressed anywhere near as much in current job as when I was even doing my undergrad

the biggest problem in academia is that the students are still children who didn’t learn how to manage their time. most of them don’t even have a calendar.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Boiled Water posted:

what is: “(...) my client who emphasises heavily on company culture ...” code for?

my client is doesn’t like them “urban youth”

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

qhat posted:

A company that turned me down for an intermediate position last summer when I was unemployed (from a rather bullshit interview btw, I was asked to code review code I no longer had access to) hit me up on LinkedIn yesterday and now they want to interview me for a senior position. I'm going to listen to their recruiter and see what they say, but honestly I think I'm only doing it to gauge my value on the market.

imagine becoming the boss of your lovely interviewer :evilbuddy:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Space Whale posted:

If you matched your employer's lies to you on a lie-to-lie basis can you even tell them the time?

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
thread should be renamed “interviewing and recruiting the turd” quote this if you agree

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Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
i never used recruiters before. is it verboten to apply directly when using one?

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