|
Is the Atom RPG actually a good game? Aside from the racism? If it’s really up there with the old school Fallouts then I should check it out. Or I guess I could go and actually play Underrail.
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2019 06:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 04:13 |
|
|
Does new vegas two have our beloved pip boy in it? Yeah I thought not, that's a skip
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2019 08:02
|
|
|
Is it going to be moddable and single-player? Lol.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2019 13:27
|
|
|
Hey so anyone done the burrows thing in 76? Curious if it’s fun and/or worthwhile. Also wondering if it’s soloable or legit needs a posse
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 04:16
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:Is the Atom RPG actually a good game? Aside from the racism? If it’s really up there with the old school Fallouts then I should check it out. Or I guess I could go and actually play Underrail. I mean the original Birth of a Nation was a groundbreaking, landmark movie in the history of cinema, whose achievements and cultural impact far exceed anything a Russian indie game could, and it's still a genuine and unfortunately wildly successful attempt to advocate a pervasive and homicidal evil that still drives people to dehumanize and kill marginalized populations to this day. So... Sure, go play your russian racism game in TYOOL 2019
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 10:06
|
|
|
Xarbala posted:I mean the original Birth of a Nation was a groundbreaking, landmark movie in the history of cinema, whose achievements and cultural impact far exceed anything a Russian indie game could, and it's still a genuine and unfortunately wildly successful attempt to advocate a pervasive and homicidal evil that still drives people to dehumanize and kill marginalized populations to this day. I can’t tell from your post if you think the game is good or not?
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 10:43
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:I can’t tell from your post if you think the game is good or not? I mean it's got an isometric mode now
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 11:00
|
|
|
I’ll just Google it up. I still have Underrail to play and maybe one day I’ll finish Wasteland 2.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 11:14
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:Is the Atom RPG actually a good game? Aside from the racism? \ feel like the answer is in here somewhere
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:10
|
|
|
it’s in the middle, op
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:14
|
|
|
alright this game is anti-semitic, but the writing, is it good?
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:17
|
|
|
Berke Negri posted:alright this game is anti-semitic, but the writing, is it good? I've never played the game, how is it anti-semitic?
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:21
|
|
|
Happy merchant depiction of jews.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:24
|
|
|
The Russians are making huge advancements in the field of isometric racism. We have to step it up if we don't want to be left behind.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 15:49
|
|
|
Space Cadet Omoly posted:I've never played the game, how is it anti-semitic? I've googled a bit, and basically, there's a Jewish character merchant who does the *greedily rubbing hands* gesture common in antisemitic caricatures.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 16:41
|
|
|
oops wrong thread
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 16:52
|
|
|
Xarbala posted:I mean the original Birth of a Nation was a groundbreaking, landmark movie in the history of cinema, whose achievements and cultural impact far exceed anything a Russian indie game could, and it's still a genuine and unfortunately wildly successful attempt to advocate a pervasive and homicidal evil that still drives people to dehumanize and kill marginalized populations to this day. I read an interesting point about Triumph Of The Will saying that even above promoting Nazi ideology it's also basically the reason for the popular culture depiction of Nazis even as villains. Like, you think of Nazis and you think of a terrifying column of fanatically loyal Teutonic warriors goose stepping over any resistance to the glory of the Fuhrer. Because that's the image Triumph Of The Will put out there, and even though we aren't Nazis we still buy into their propaganda by thinking of them in that way. Anyway, I suppose I could relate this back to Fallout by saying the burning of Nipton in New Vegas is Legion propaganda in a similar way, not to promote their ideology but to strike fear into their enemies. The NCR posters about how spooky and terrifying the Legion is are kind of pro-Legion propaganda too
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 16:56
|
|
|
Fair Bear Maiden posted:I've googled a bit, and basically, there's a Jewish character merchant who does the *greedily rubbing hands* gesture common in antisemitic caricatures. https://twitter.com/resoluteCourier/status/1080252684270268417
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 17:47
|
|
|
PSA: Rubbing your hands together is racist. Good luck washing your hands you insensitive hacks.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 17:52
|
|
|
Vinylshadow posted:PSA: Rubbing your hands together is racist. Good luck washing your hands you insensitive hacks. This is the worst possible take.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 17:57
|
|
|
Vinylshadow posted:PSA: Rubbing your hands together is racist. Good luck washing your hands you insensitive hacks. you know exactly what you're doing here
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 18:47
|
|
|
Oh will the Outer Worlds not just be on Epic Store? Hmm. Never bought anything from the Microsoft Store either, but I could finally play State of Decay 2 if I gave in and... Oh right, 200+ unplayed Steam games, go to hell Obsidian Chomp8645 posted:Update: coffee done! Also holy poo poo Atom RPG. The best thing about lovely far-right idiots is that they cannot help themselves and simply MUST put in some Hitler Fanservice in their projects, making it easy to figure out who does not deserve your money.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 18:48
|
|
|
I won't lie and say I'm not interested in seeing a Russian version of Fallout. That said- and racism aside- I can skip it for the same reason I don't feel like I need to put together a new gaming pc; there are literally too many good games being released for every platform to make special considerations for any of them necessary. Except for Bloodborne. Bloodborne deserves all the special considerations, but requires none.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 20:46
|
|
|
Somebody a couple months back posted about how this isn't the only instance either. It is just the first.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 21:11
|
|
|
So originally I'd asked how the Atom RPG is aside from the racist poo poo. Instead I got nothing but more comments about the racist poo poo. I'm not even talking story stuff, but the whole package. Does it run good? Is it buggy? How's the character leveling/advancement system. Are there party members? Are they good? How's the choices/consequences part of the narrative? In other words: does the game go after all the things that made Fallout 1/2 good games. If the racism poo poo is super-pervasive then I'm probably going to avoid it either way. But I kinda feel like the few things I've seen posted as "racist" are definitely walking the line but I haven't seen anything I'd classify as a put-down. I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. If it's preferred I not bring up or ask about the game or if everyone's intent is to dogpile me to tell me what a piece of poo poo I am, fair enough, that's your right and I'll leave it alone. My intention and hope is not to poo poo up the thread. I just feel there's a dearth of good post-apoc RPGs and the Fallout series is moving further and further from the sort of setting I'd enjoy.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 22:54
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:So originally I'd asked how the Atom RPG is aside from the racist poo poo. Instead I got nothing but more comments about the racist poo poo. I'm not even talking story stuff, but the whole package. Does it run good? Is it buggy? How's the character leveling/advancement system. Are there party members? Are they good? How's the choices/consequences part of the narrative? In other words: does the game go after all the things that made Fallout 1/2 good games. If the racism poo poo is super-pervasive then I'm probably going to avoid it either way. But I kinda feel like the few things I've seen posted as "racist" are definitely walking the line but I haven't seen anything I'd classify as a put-down. I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. If it's preferred I not bring up or ask about the game or if everyone's intent is to dogpile me to tell me what a piece of poo poo I am, fair enough, that's your right and I'll leave it alone. My intention and hope is not to poo poo up the thread. I just feel there's a dearth of good post-apoc RPGs and the Fallout series is moving further and further from the sort of setting I'd enjoy. nice meltdown
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 22:59
|
|
|
mysterious frankie posted:I won't lie and say I'm not interested in seeing a Russian version of Fallout. I haven't been interested in a Russian version of any game after Postal 3.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 23:03
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. He's named Avram and wearing a kippah. He's explicitly Jewish.
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 23:27
|
|
|
I mean if the racism isn't a deal breaker you could give it a shot but lmfao
|
|
#
?
Sep 22, 2019 23:43
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:So originally I'd asked how the Atom RPG is aside from the racist poo poo. Instead I got nothing but more comments about the racist poo poo. I'm not even talking story stuff, but the whole package. Does it run good? Is it buggy? How's the character leveling/advancement system. Are there party members? Are they good? How's the choices/consequences part of the narrative? In other words: does the game go after all the things that made Fallout 1/2 good games. If the racism poo poo is super-pervasive then I'm probably going to avoid it either way. But I kinda feel like the few things I've seen posted as "racist" are definitely walking the line but I haven't seen anything I'd classify as a put-down. I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. If it's preferred I not bring up or ask about the game or if everyone's intent is to dogpile me to tell me what a piece of poo poo I am, fair enough, that's your right and I'll leave it alone. My intention and hope is not to poo poo up the thread. I just feel there's a dearth of good post-apoc RPGs and the Fallout series is moving further and further from the sort of setting I'd enjoy. Thing is, there's no "walking the line" when it comes to bigoted poo poo. This isn't "a creator is revealed to be a piece of poo poo" situation where you can at least learn to still like something despite knowing what the creator's like. This is a situation where the dev team looked at the racist content they created and didn't think that would be harmful to others. While I can understand your desire to be able to play a good game with things you like in it, you're basically saying that you can overlook bigoted things in media as long as it's good enough for you.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:00
|
|
|
chaosapiant posted:So originally I'd asked how the Atom RPG is aside from the racist poo poo. Instead I got nothing but more comments about the racist poo poo. I'm not even talking story stuff, but the whole package. Does it run good? Is it buggy? How's the character leveling/advancement system. Are there party members? Are they good? How's the choices/consequences part of the narrative? In other words: does the game go after all the things that made Fallout 1/2 good games. If the racism poo poo is super-pervasive then I'm probably going to avoid it either way. But I kinda feel like the few things I've seen posted as "racist" are definitely walking the line but I haven't seen anything I'd classify as a put-down. I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. If it's preferred I not bring up or ask about the game or if everyone's intent is to dogpile me to tell me what a piece of poo poo I am, fair enough, that's your right and I'll leave it alone. My intention and hope is not to poo poo up the thread. I just feel there's a dearth of good post-apoc RPGs and the Fallout series is moving further and further from the sort of setting I'd enjoy. Game's bad and expects you to grind random encounters because everything does insane damage. There's also a 'freakshow' area played for laughs, with everything you can possibly imagine going on in there with one of the missions being to kill them all for being freaks
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:04
|
|
|
What about that other Russian RPG Atom Heart or whatever? I don't know if it's out yet but it looked like Stalker if they smoked acid and designed a carnival based on Soviet kitsch.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:14
|
|
|
Valleyant posted:Game's bad and expects you to grind random encounters because everything does insane damage. Ugh, then yea I'll just avoid it. Looks like it's a poo poo-show all around.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:14
|
|
|
I love every time i hop back in the thread someone is asking about the racist russian rpg
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:35
|
|
|
It is like war and Fallout 76 being trash, it never changes.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 00:41
|
|
|
Arcsquad12 posted:What about that other Russian RPG Atom Heart or whatever? I don't know if it's out yet but it looked like Stalker if they smoked acid and designed a carnival based on Soviet kitsch. It’s probably never coming out. The management allegedly cheated their workers, and none of the footage released was actually of a game being played.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 06:45
|
|
|
Someone several hundred pages back did a breakdown of all the racist poo poo in Atom. It isn't just the one thing, it's a lot of things sprinkled throughout. The merchant stuff is just the easiest and most clear-cut one to point at.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 13:00
|
|
|
ZeusCannon posted:I love every time i hop back in the thread someone is asking about the racist russian rpg The people are thirsty for good RPGs, I can dig Countdown until Baldur's Gate 3 comes out
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 17:22
|
|
|
todd put dragons in fallout
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 17:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 04:13 |
|
|
chaosapiant posted:So originally I'd asked how the Atom RPG is aside from the racist poo poo. Instead I got nothing but more comments about the racist poo poo. I'm not even talking story stuff, but the whole package. Does it run good? Is it buggy? How's the character leveling/advancement system. Are there party members? Are they good? How's the choices/consequences part of the narrative? In other words: does the game go after all the things that made Fallout 1/2 good games. If the racism poo poo is super-pervasive then I'm probably going to avoid it either way. But I kinda feel like the few things I've seen posted as "racist" are definitely walking the line but I haven't seen anything I'd classify as a put-down. I know that's subjective for everyone, but an old dude wringing his hands greedily could just be an old dude wringing his hands greedily. If it's preferred I not bring up or ask about the game or if everyone's intent is to dogpile me to tell me what a piece of poo poo I am, fair enough, that's your right and I'll leave it alone. My intention and hope is not to poo poo up the thread. I just feel there's a dearth of good post-apoc RPGs and the Fallout series is moving further and further from the sort of setting I'd enjoy. We have already had this in this thread. ATOM RPG is not worth buying if you already own Underrail. Combats choppy like the old fallout games, but cheesable. I bought ATOM without knowing it had genuine and intentional antisemitism in it. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Games bad just keep walking. Underrail on the other hand rules and the expansion is like 5 bucks so go do that.
|
|
#
?
Sep 23, 2019 17:47
|
|
