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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


:tviv:

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Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


Oh for gently caress's sake I must have seen that 1,000 times and not noticed.

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


God drat it.

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

i guess i can see it as a rocket ship? but if it's a rocket ship, why is there a gigantic robotic hand holding it?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Electro-Boogie Jack posted:

i guess i can see it as a rocket ship? but if it's a rocket ship, why is there a gigantic robotic hand holding it?

If you make the picture small enough, it kind of looks like the hand itself is a winged spacecraft flying downward toward a desert full of ruins

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


I’ve been playing this since it first came out and I’ve never noticed. I feel like a dumbass.

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Like the Berenstain bears it's one of those things that got filled in wrong in the brain and there was never any reason to re-examine it so the delusion persisted

Even now I struggle not to see the right side as a city but the rear end-view of the ship is dead at least

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I can't even make out where I saw the ship before.

Edit: I can see it on the thumbnail.

Bobfly
Apr 22, 2007
EGADS!
I can still see the ship instead of the hand when I focus on the right-hand side of the picture.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


i liked the picture a lot better when i thought it was a ship, thanks

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

The Chad Jihad posted:

Like the Berenstain bears it's one of those things that got filled in wrong in the brain and there was never any reason to re-examine it so the delusion persisted

Even now I struggle not to see the right side as a city but the rear end-view of the ship is dead at least

Yeah, I never bothered to look at it too long, and since it's in the context of a science ship, I just assumed it was the ship flying around some ruins or something.

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Jazerus posted:

i liked the picture a lot better when i thought it was a ship, thanks

We need to mods an edit picture where the hand has been turned into a ship. ASAP.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.

Same, tbh. :psyduck:

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


What the gently caress, this is my very own "THIS IS THE SKY??" moment.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
I thought it was a crashed ship. So not much better. :v:

SirTagz
Feb 25, 2014

Really struggling to see a ship.. I guess when I squint and move really far from the screen I can see it. But then again it might be as well a potato.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler
I realized this a while back, and now that I know it's a hand I can't for the life of me make it look like a ship again no matter how much I squint, to the point where I wonder how I ever got it wrong :v:

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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AG3 posted:

I realized this a while back, and now that I know it's a hand I can't for the life of me make it look like a ship again no matter how much I squint, to the point where I wonder how I ever got it wrong :v:
Same, except when it was posted here out of context I saw a ship again briefly before my brain snapped back to hand

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Anomolies have been permanently ruined for me now, thanks

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

The Chad Jihad posted:

Like the Berenstain bears it's one of those things that got filled in wrong in the brain and there was never any reason to re-examine it so the delusion persisted

Even now I struggle not to see the right side as a city but the rear end-view of the ship is dead at least

So if the right side isn't a city then what the gently caress are they and why are they so small

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club
Oh thank holy gently caress I'm not the only one

ProfessorLemur
Nov 14, 2014
I've finally took the plunge and bought Stellaris, along with the majority of the DLC. Now that I've sunk a few dozen hours into the game as practice runs, the next step is to do an achievement run, but ideally, I'd like some QoL mods that make managing my space rock corp empire a little easier. What achievement-friendly mods do you fine people suggest that I start with?

Edit: If there's already suggestions in this thread, please point them to me if possible - there's 1280 pages, and I don't know if I have the fortitude to go through them all. :(

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

ProfessorLemur posted:

I've finally took the plunge and bought Stellaris, along with the majority of the DLC. Now that I've sunk a few dozen hours into the game as practice runs, the next step is to do an achievement run, but ideally, I'd like some QoL mods that make managing my space rock corp empire a little easier. What achievement-friendly mods do you fine people suggest that I start with?

Edit: If there's already suggestions in this thread, please point them to me if possible - there's 1280 pages, and I don't know if I have the fortitude to go through them all. :(

TinyOutliner is basically a MUST.

The outliner is like, 4x as big as it needs to be in vanilla, for no goddamn reason. It makes taking care of a bigger empire even more of a pain than it already is.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I don't have an exhaustive list but Tiny Outline and Tiny Fleets should be achievement neutral and are pretty much essential for me.

ProfessorLemur
Nov 14, 2014
Just tried the Tiny Outliner mod and, oh my god, this has made things so much more bearable already - everything feels much less clustered now. Thanks! Any other suggestions would be fantastic - I've picked up the Pinwheel Galaxy mod since it's achievement-friendly and makes the galaxy look much prettier.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

UI Overhaul Dynamic works very well with Tiny Outliner & co

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

just lost a game because my economy went into a death spiral and by the time I figured out why (all my workers had promoted into specialists and apparently it takes several years to demote one or two of them) the game was pretty much over. what the gently caress? how can I stop this from happening. surely planet tiles were better than this stupid poo poo I was never notified about and can't control.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Don't build buildings until you've filled up your districts! And then, don't build two buildings at once - make or upgrade buildings only once the planet is almost out of jobs

Building too many buildings or building them too soon kills your basic resource income

Blorange
Jan 31, 2007

A wizard did it

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

just lost a game because my economy went into a death spiral and by the time I figured out why (all my workers had promoted into specialists and apparently it takes several years to demote one or two of them) the game was pretty much over. what the gently caress? how can I stop this from happening. surely planet tiles were better than this stupid poo poo I was never notified about and can't control.

Pops automatically promote to the highest available job they can legally work. The only way to prevent this from happening is to never prebuild buildings with specialist job slots if you still care about raw resource production.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

just lost a game because my economy went into a death spiral and by the time I figured out why (all my workers had promoted into specialists and apparently it takes several years to demote one or two of them) the game was pretty much over. what the gently caress? how can I stop this from happening. surely planet tiles were better than this stupid poo poo I was never notified about and can't control.

Unironically, planet tiles were better.

Because this system hands pop control to the AI, and this game's AI has no loving idea what it's doing.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh, 25x then. It's gonna be glorious chaos.


Also, I've spent like 200 hours thinking this was a picture of a rocket ship flying over a ruined city.


:stonk:

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
SHUT THE gently caress UP LIBERALNEUTRAL

The Fat Swordsman
Feb 13, 2012

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

SHUT THE gently caress UP LIBERALNEUTRAL



I have no strong feelings about this one way or the other.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

SHUT THE gently caress UP LIBERALNEUTRAL



:geno:

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Blorange posted:

Pops automatically promote to the highest available job they can legally work. The only way to prevent this from happening is to never prebuild buildings with specialist job slots if you still care about raw resource production.

Also, you can play Gestalts.

Those don't have to deal with the pointless, idiotic Stratum mechanic that does nothing except gently caress over people that don't know how to deal with it and annoy others.

Why does that mechanic exist again?

What positive does it add?

Can someone tell me?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

SHUT THE gently caress UP LIBERALNEUTRAL



Fly the white flag of claims.

And I've certainly ended up in a situation where my lust for alloys has caused me to put all my minerals into them and not being able to build anything else.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Yami Fenrir posted:

Also, you can play Gestalts.

Those don't have to deal with the pointless, idiotic Stratum mechanic that does nothing except gently caress over people that don't know how to deal with it and annoy others.

Why does that mechanic exist again?

What positive does it add?

Can someone tell me?

I guess its main function is to add social classes for the purpose of differentiating political influence. If upward social mobility required something more than just a job opening and wasn't instant, then the system might actually work both mechanically and thematically (although it would add its own share of issues). Instant upward social mobility but a decade-long downward one just creates a broken mess that can in a very unrealistic way completely destroy an empire in very short order.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

AG3 posted:

I guess its main function is to add social classes for the purpose of differentiating political influence. If upward social mobility required something more than just a job opening and wasn't instant, then the system might actually work both mechanically and thematically (although it would add its own share of issues). Instant upward social mobility but a decade-long downward one just creates a broken mess that can in a very unrealistic way completely destroy an empire in very short order.

That also adds nothing truly relevant to the game, imho. Yes, you can technically manipulate your political strati to get more stability but it's usually only a few percentage points. That and the ones that you don't want to piss off, Specialists and Rulers, usually get bonuses big enough that you have to TRY to piss them off while Workers barely matter.

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib
Strata. Yes I know it doesn't matter but sticking -i on everything to pluralize it is annoying enough when you don't do it to actual latin words.

Also I thought it was a ship too, and now have no idea what the right side of the picture is supposed to be. Maybe it IS a city, and the hand belongs to a giant robot...

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
I've posted before about arguable theoretical gameplay or performance benefits, but it really seems to be mainly because the developers couldn't imagine a society where the elites aren't constantly making GBS threads on "unskilled labour" outside of a literally post scarcity society. Shared Burdens only exists because a previous iteration of this thread got pissy at Wiz directly and it still requires egalitarian ethics.

e: removed some ranting

Splicer fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Mar 9, 2021

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