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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


right, so the purpose is to talk about non-music: industrial, noise, power electronics, drone and all their tiny subgenres. why not dark ambient, musique concrete and experimental music in general? as long as it's a bit hosed up and unpleasant i guess!

here's some recommendations if you're new to this sort of stuff:

industrial:
throbbing gristle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1wBWhyKgW0
SPK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcs_hgIHH8
puce mary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-22iieZ28
pain nail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHxFLMM7T3Y

noise:
merzbow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguPH0XBxdw
bastard noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CubohxSPhE
jaakko vanhala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd3trLV9ItU

power electronics:
whitehouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVtWcQOWWmE
grunt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MExUkhP-2t4
sutcliffe jugend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xTiw49PRI4

drone:
coil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xZYX7a6JE
john cage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byqsV-CXJ-g
bones of seabirds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN4yM58f_Oc

dark ambient:
lustmord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujqPK0H2Qc
biosphere & deathprod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXRWfZrf8E
tangerine dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjvF36gzLF8

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A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



was it you in another thread who was listening to chu ishikawa? have you heard linekraft? very cool active Japanese project with big use of junk metal sounds, not really 'Japanese noise' as such https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ks4pVgd8FA

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


I had not but that sounds real great, somewhere between industrial and noise. Im gonna have to hunt down that cd

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at Mar 11, 2018 around 23:16

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



What's everyone(two people lol) been listening to recently?? I personally have been checking out cool Italian man Murder Corporation, who is a bit hit and miss but just kills when he gets it right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G46o8texKCo

Perfect lofi filth

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


murder company sounds good!

i've been on a posh isolation kick lately, going through all of their realeases. they mostly concentrate on techno, industrial and noise. i'm not really into techno but i have to say that some of that stuff can be addicting, especially if mixed with industrial or noise elements.

other good stuff from the label:

varg (ambient techno with an industrial vibe): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2bO0unPe4M
flesh spear (full blown noisecore): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk-bd25dY7M
body sculptures (ambient industrial, one of my favourite releases of 2016. amazing album!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC9a3aRSPbQ
caucasian colony (noise): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFV8ggy7rxA

i'm also reading the biography of cosey fanni tutti, co-founder of throbbing gristle. she was also a stripper, a porn actress and a performance artist, really fascinating lady. anyway i've been looking into her career outside of throbbing gristle and she's done some really good stuff both on her own and in collaboration with other people.

especially this solo release caught my attention, it's from a solo cassette, ambient industrial like body sculptures and it's amazing how fresh it still sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HudSwX3aiyo

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at Mar 10, 2018 around 07:50

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense


Fun Shoe

Oh wow it actually happened! Hope it lasts. Iím pretty out of date with this stuff so Iím hoping to catch up on what the kids are up to these days.

Content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WspVAZwLqkc

Also Iíll have to talk about finally seeing Esplendor Geometrico and how unexpectedly silly that was.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Snowy posted:

Oh wow it actually happened! Hope it lasts. Iím pretty out of date with this stuff so Iím hoping to catch up on what the kids are up to these days.

Content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WspVAZwLqkc

Also Iíll have to talk about finally seeing Esplendor Geometrico and how unexpectedly silly that was.

I tried getting into Dissecting Table once but it was too wacky, he'd get some nice dark ambient sounds or whatever going and then death metal guitar riffs would start playing and totally ruin it.

Psychedelius
Apr 24, 2010



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGWm0ZvCCKs

i really enjoyed the latest few facialmess records

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T


Grimey Drawer

So based on the fact that I have little experience with this poo poo, I really like Bodychoke and Sutcliffe Jugend, so what else would I like?

obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxeGx7KvoVY

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

So based on the fact that I have little experience with this poo poo, I really like Bodychoke and Sutcliffe Jugend, so what else would I like?

if bodychoke, you wanna check out some noise rock. i left it out because it's a broad genre that veers quite far from the core of this thread, but i can recommend some:

angels of light (swans's michael giras other band, kind of like, folk rock with a very oppressive atmosphere? idk, awesome band and very body choke-ish) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_dOCVMRL2Q
oxbow (brilliant): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2d23j0Ez7M
head of david (broadrick pre-godflesh. industrial post punky noise rock): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTDlIszv_YE

with sutcliffe jugend, check out grunt, whitehouse, brighter death now, puce mary and nurse with wound.

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2018 around 00:17

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

So based on the fact that I have little experience with this poo poo, I really like Bodychoke and Sutcliffe Jugend, so what else would I like?

obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxeGx7KvoVY

which sutcliffe jugend? Their older stuff is pretty different to the newer releases. Some of Ramleh's noise rock material might appeal if you like Bodychoke and want PE dudes doing noise rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BW7Ipjt-M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDO2eGKLuSE

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


speaking of ramleh, older skullflower might be to your liking too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJO-vrCv6JE

as far as the newer stuff goes, hosed on a pile of corpses is legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv7y8U15NnE

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Psychedelius posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGWm0ZvCCKs

i really enjoyed the latest few facialmess records

The sound he gets on Pig Hydraulics is really unique to my ears, very rapid cut ups obviously but the underlying noise he's working with isn't really overly distorted like most harsh noise is, it's actually surprisingly clean.

I listened to the new BizarreSSmania record the other day and it basically has everything you want from these guys: scraping metal, weird synth noises, screaming and bassy rumble. Also its got an insert with a picture of a bondage nazi on it that says 'nazi pain master', what's not to like? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A8GlyhUz1M

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town


OP is lacking in Cabaret Voltaire! Live at the YMCA is still one of the best industrial records ever, and they even managed to be catchy sometimes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvTCw4dLFA

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015


I discovered this experimental noise group named Witches of Malibu and I'm loving their stuff especially when they coast towards a style that's a mix of noise and composed sound collages.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense


Fun Shoe

Witches of Mailbu is one of the guys from Hunting Lodge, heís been making noise/industrial since the early 80ís at least. I just met him recently, got to play a show with him. Very cool guy.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



I thought i had listened to hunting lodge at some point but looking at their discography i think it must have been a different lesser known 80s industrial thing

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


Snowy posted:

Witches of Mailbu is one of the guys from Hunting Lodge, heís been making noise/industrial since the early 80ís at least. I just met him recently, got to play a show with him. Very cool guy.

you make music? link pls!

end of the year is going to be awesome, i get to see godflesh, author & punisher, mike IX of eyehategod do a collab gig with jaakko vanhala all at the same festival and a few months later, einstŁrzende neubauten in this old theater... also i get to come to the us in the summer to play some noise rock. musically the best year in ages

anyway on topic, i remade this old muslimgauze compilation i bought when i was like 16. i went to the record store and asked for "something like aphex twin" who i was a fan of at the time and the clerk gave me this. it blew my mind:
https://open.spotify.com/user/anjov...DJy4pc15trqpCHw

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at Mar 23, 2018 around 08:22

extradite THIS!
Mar 8, 2010





Dyna Soar posted:

you make music? link pls!

end of the year is going to be awesome, i get to see godflesh, author & punisher, mike IX of eyehategod do a collab gig with jaakko vanhala all at the same festival and a few months later, einstŁrzende neubauten in this old theater... also i get to come to the us in teh summer to play some noise rock. musically the best year in ages

anyway on topic, i remade this old muslimgauze compilation i bought when i was like 16. i went to the record store and asked for "something like aphex twin" who i was a fan of at the time and the clerk gave me this. it blew my mind:
https://open.spotify.com/user/anjov...DJy4pc15trqpCHw

Sounds like you're Finnish and we'll be at all the same shows!

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



If you guys are finnish you should go see all my favourite filth and violence acts and then mail me recordings of them

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense


Fun Shoe

Dyna Soar posted:

you make music? link pls!


I haven't put anything out in over 20 years and don't have anything online as far as I know but I have two exciting (to me) projects coming up so I'll send you a link when that happens.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



A human heart posted:

If you guys are finnish you should go see all my favourite filth and violence acts and then mail me recordings of them

Maybe this post came across as a joke but Finland completely rules for noise/PE stuff and they're only getting better. The two Bizarre Uproar albums from last year ruled(this track utterly destroys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPcmeYPs-s) , the new Grunt is pretty good if you like him already, Sick Seed is always doing consistently interesting stuff(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUyE-Pi2xpA) and there's lots of cool other acts(e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv-GeOq_V7A, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NguPqzb4Y) too.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


A human heart posted:

Maybe this post came across as a joke but Finland completely rules for noise/PE stuff and they're only getting better. The two Bizarre Uproar albums from last year ruled(this track utterly destroys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPcmeYPs-s) , the new Grunt is pretty good if you like him already, Sick Seed is always doing consistently interesting stuff(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUyE-Pi2xpA) and there's lots of cool other acts(e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv-GeOq_V7A, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NguPqzb4Y) too.

definitely. i've got complaints though! i'd love there to be more synth based stuff and also most of the (admittedly awesome) gigs are organized in this small unheated container in the middle of nowhere, hah.

pain nail, which i linked to in the op, is to my ears just perfect stuff. it's mikko aspa from grunt (and deathspell omega and a myriad of other bands) and kojo, both from fleshpress (who are awesome sludge / black metal).

pain nail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHxFLMM7T3Y
(OT but i want to link this) fleshpress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIlmkLkM-Kw

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Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"


RIP JAPSHITFUN, never forget (DL)

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012




i dont really get the appeal of this kind of irony internet noise, i guess its kind of like deliberately bad breakcore?

1000 umbrellas
Aug 25, 2005

We thought we'd base our civilization upon yours, 'cause you're the smartest animals on earth, now ain't you?

I make harsh noise/PE down here in Texas with (mostly) analog gear. It's instrumental, improvisation-based, and mostly about meditative/trance states. I'm not crazy about the violence worship in a lot of this music, but I do believe in the power of sound. I think these records came out really nice, the lacquers were cut and plated from the master tape, so the sound has never touched a D/A, so... I can't give you a preview unless you buy a record. It's as banal an ideology as any, but it works for me.

http://www.foundobjectrecords.com/o.../etla-lp2-12-lp

The LP1 tape that's out on the same label turned out really well too.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


i would buy that record if it weren't for the stupid high postage and taxes on top. sorry.

i've been really into this guy logos lately. he's sort of a post-dubstep producer i guess, using the same soundscape as the early 2000's dubstep producers but abstracting it far enough not to really resemble any sort of dance or rhythm music at all. i also actually like how his music is really clear and digital as opposed to warm and saturated analog sound. not that i don't love analog, too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0gR8ZKQKT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x31gCcDT634

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A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



1000 umbrellas posted:

I'm not crazy about the violence worship in a lot of this music, but I do believe in the power of sound.

Violence is just pretty cool aesthetically and you can have a lot of fun with it

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

We will fight them to the last. And we will defend those that cannot defend themselves. Today we fight, brothers and sisters. Today we stand up and never, ever relent. Brothers and sisters -- prepare yourselves. Today we go to WAR!


Lipstick Apathy

Is this the thread where I post like 20 skinny puppy links? Because there should be a thread for that.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Fenrir posted:

Is this the thread where I post like 20 skinny puppy links? Because there should be a thread for that.

That's probably the electro industrial thread

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"


For the post-Goettel stuff, at least.

jagstag
Oct 26, 2015



A human heart posted:

i dont really get the appeal of this kind of irony internet noise, i guess its kind of like deliberately bad breakcore?

lollicore is a mostly terrible genre derived mostly from 4chan posters who just discovered breakcore. that said i won't deny that goreshit is good

jagstag
Oct 26, 2015



i will always have a soft spot for mincemeat or tenspeed's fake techno stuff. it's always fun, and it's fun to do yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j4inI_3Rew

morally adept
May 10, 2017

See all I know is ball, and good, and rape.

A human heart posted:

I thought i had listened to hunting lodge at some point but looking at their discography i think it must have been a different lesser known 80s industrial thing

Hunting Lodge is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45UKIqBWCgA

I own copies of Necropolis and Will which are good, but I wish I still had 8 ball which has more in common with Big Black than Throbbing Gristle.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

We will fight them to the last. And we will defend those that cannot defend themselves. Today we fight, brothers and sisters. Today we stand up and never, ever relent. Brothers and sisters -- prepare yourselves. Today we go to WAR!


Lipstick Apathy

Darthemed posted:

For the post-Goettel stuff, at least.

I like it that Ogre and Key were able to reconcile and start making music together again, but I never was the biggest fan of the new stuff. I don't really listen to anything after Last Rights.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Skinny Puppy sucks because they set the template for 'industrial' to eventually turn into ebm or whatever silly crap gets called that now

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"


It was Stephen George's fault, no one could resist his charisma on With Sympathy.

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

We will fight them to the last. And we will defend those that cannot defend themselves. Today we fight, brothers and sisters. Today we stand up and never, ever relent. Brothers and sisters -- prepare yourselves. Today we go to WAR!


Lipstick Apathy

A human heart posted:

Skinny Puppy sucks because they set the template for 'industrial' to eventually turn into ebm or whatever silly crap gets called that now

I'd blame that more on the lovely ebm acts that followed, really.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



I'm listening to Genocide Organ's back catalogue to see if I like their studio material any more than I used to and it's funny how this song is like a hosed up dance track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENW8lX44G8g

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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


A human heart posted:

I'm listening to Genocide Organ's back catalogue to see if I like their studio material any more than I used to and it's funny how this song is like a hosed up dance track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENW8lX44G8g

thats a good track

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