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That list is a real wake-up call. Somehow I post more here than in the dedicated nazi-watch threads, even though this one is just nazi-watch-adjacent.
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I like Matthew Buck. He's another reviewer who has really grown into a unique voice with a specific field of stuff to review over the past few years. Pretty much everyone has, but I like to say positive things about people and I haven't seen him discussed a ton.
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Apr 10, 2018 20:11
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It’s just some poor-taste trolling. There are posters in this thread who knew him, so just keep that in mind.
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Apr 11, 2018 01:20
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He’s literally a textbook narcissist—like a Trump-level specimen of what a personality disorder looks like. He can’t see how this response is literally the worst thing he could do and doesn’t understand that reality is different from his rationalization of what happened, and that as a result he’s going to be further criticized and ridiculed. He just can’t let any criticism go. It’s irresponsible to make observations like this, but it couldn’t be any clearer. Who could possibly think that document would fix anything?
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Apr 12, 2018 09:43
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Probably more like Channel Awesome revenue + youtube revenue is a living wage but youtube revenue alone isn't. Bet there’s some bad news coming about Channel Awesome revenue though. Especially if they can’t just limit themselves to just two horrible responses and have to do a video that’s at best going to turn out like the Trump pussy-grab video. At worst it will be the parody video someone imagined above where they reenact what “really” happened by making their two actors play Holly Brown as a drooling yokel in a straw hat and overalls who can’t read a contract, or Lindsay in an ss uniform with the female symbol in place of the skulls.
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Apr 12, 2018 13:24
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Just look at how easy it is to stop or slow the bleeding after stabbing yourself repeatedly. You can’t reverse damage or repair a relationship, but just by sincerely taking responsibility it is possible to just end it and then you can keep going. And they couldn’t even do that.
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Apr 12, 2018 14:37
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That seems designed to deflect criticism via distraction in a very Trumpy way. Let’s hope they’re not stupid and evil enough to have intentionally revealed his identity as some kind of return strike because—as Dan just said—their transgressions are basically just things that need a clear, good-faith apology to move on from. Maybe don’t potentially expose a teen victim to the internet swarm and cause who knows what else in an act that does nothing to address the original accusation that they ignored or covered for a rapist. The rapist’s identity is irrelevant.
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Apr 12, 2018 17:28
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At least it seems like CA didn’t release this information themselves but were merely lazy in continuing to cover up things they had already covered up, not that it matters for the fresh nightmare this is going to cause anyone who ever contributed to CA. Gamergate continues to pay awesome dividends.
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Apr 12, 2018 17:59
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My heart goes out to everyone who knew him. This would be extremely painful news in the best ("best") of circumstances.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:07
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Gammatron 64 posted:Holy poo poo, this suddenly took a much darker turn than I expected. I was enjoying watching Channel Awesome go down in flames but I dunno if this is fun anymore. It was never really fun. There were economic consequences for blameless people at every step of these events, and relationships strained or broken, and fresh waves of harassment, and fresh disclosures of real abuse. CA management is dumb and their responses have been unbelievable, but there has been a human cost to what has happened. Let's not ignore how it was already hard for everyone caught up in CA's bad choices.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:31
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Abusers are in fact extremely good at hiding and rationalizing away their behavior. It’s normal for cases like these and partially how they implicitly or explicitly intimidate their victims into silence—it’s where part of the force of “no one will believe you” comes from. Twice I’ve found out that a colleague was a rapist and both times I would never have thought of either if someone had told me I had a rapist as a coworker.
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Apr 12, 2018 19:10
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Arcsquad12 posted:Ask him yourself if you're curious, don't make assumptions. Speculation is probably the worst and most destructive outcome for something like that. His story is his to tell or not. Until then let’s let it be. I feel for him too—he was so young when he started. That seems like a theme with CA poo poo.
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Apr 12, 2018 23:55
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WHY BONER NOW posted:You're thinking of Irate Gamer, a clown of the highest order but never associated with Channel Awesome. Irate Gamer is a full-time ghost chaser now, I believe.
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Apr 13, 2018 02:52
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I am kind of tickled at the thought of CA internal discussions getting reduced to a sombre old friend taking things very seriously and stressing out at every step down into the abyss and a grinning British troll nobody even realized was there a month ago. It would be like if Groucho were in the bunker with Hitler.
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Apr 13, 2018 02:58
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Is vidcon going to be weirder this year?
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Apr 13, 2018 11:34
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I thought you were a good mod, Lorne. I hope that without you this place doesn’t turn into those episodes of MASH after McLean Stevenson quit but before the Dragnet guy showed up.
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Apr 13, 2018 15:48
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I don’t think laser swords would work like that either. How would they know when to stop coming out of the handle?
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Apr 13, 2018 16:17
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You’re talking about the official forums on the CA site? Jesus. Are the people on the forums trying to destroy CA by posting illegal/host-prohibited things?
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Apr 13, 2018 20:05
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Mokinokaro posted:Apparently Brad might be locked in due to the stupid game show contract. He's removed CA from his own site and is obviously trying to distance himself as much as possible. This is too close to the speculation game for me, but someone was looking for a contract lawyer in the Springfield area last night, right? It would be too bad if the one thing those fucks did right was to entrap Brad’s immortal soul for all eternity. Especially (accidentally?) with that wretched game show.
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Apr 13, 2018 20:34
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If anyone tries to rescue Brad from his contract, it should preferably involve a ragtag group of hairy, badly dubbed Italian men, preferably using some kind of homemade armored killdozer with like some buzzsaws and a flamethrower. Also it’s really racist and out of focus 20% of the time.
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Apr 13, 2018 21:11
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lornekates posted:It's not part of the goddamn forum rules that are being the link titled "Read the goddamn forum rules before posting!!!" that's right there every time one posts. There was some discussion of your demodding in a qcs thread on mod feedback. I went there to try to stump for you, but the matter seems closed. I don’t really understand the reasons given for demodding you.
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Apr 13, 2018 21:19
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It is grotesquely comical how algorithms like that have entrenched and furthered systemic racism with such laser-like precision less than a decade after they first started coming into service. And it’s all of a piece with the human-driven colorblind racism behind poo poo like the war on drugs, as the machines literally can’t see race.
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Apr 14, 2018 21:22
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Faust looks amazing. This is one of the few Best of the Worst episodes that makes me want to get one of the movies. All Brian Yuzna movies come out the same by the last reel, I guess. I wonder if he knows there are fetish clubs in his town that he could go to instead of making movies.
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Apr 14, 2018 23:52
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The Bee posted:Larry didn't just beat the game. He fought the secret final boss, and won. We got a possible Channel Awesome kill screen comin’ up if anybody wants to see it. Channel Awesome kill screen comin’ up right here.
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Apr 15, 2018 01:46
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corn in the bible posted:Back in the day I tried to get onto Channel Awesome. I was in college and me and my friends would watch Doug's stuff and then moved on to watching other things; I was a big fan of Lindsay Ellis and Spoony, and from him I heard about Brad and got into his stuff. It was great! Never made it on the site, though, partly because I didn't try long enough or hard enough, really. Though for a while I used to look back and think about having missed out on this amazing opportunity to work with these amazing people and do some great, creative work. If you learned literally anything about writing or cameras or lighting, or if you developed any insight at all into any particular film or genre, or if you got better at it in any way, your experience was less of a waste than Doug Walker’s life to date. Ditto if you managed to do it without harming anyone or contributing to the harm of others through inaction or stupidity.
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Apr 15, 2018 03:30
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They’re willfully misunderstanding that the people who wrote the document about CA only found out about the abuse last week when contacted by a victim, ie long after Justin Carmichael was dead. CA management on the other hand revealed that they knew the whole time, chose not to contact any authorities, and tried to monetize the abuser’s death.
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Apr 15, 2018 11:01
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Holly Brown’s twitter has been nothing but Guru Larry memes for the last two days. It’s making me a little uncomfortable. I hope she’s ok.
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Apr 15, 2018 23:29
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MonsieurChoc posted:Anyone remember the weird Nine lives of Garfield movie? IIRC it had a sequence pretty obviously inspired by plague dogs. The most (only) ambitious thing Jim Davis has ever done. It expanded my mind as a young kid expecting only safe, stale humor and Lorenzo Music’s dulcet voice. Given the Lorenzo Music connection, it might make good material for Phelan some day.
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Apr 16, 2018 02:27
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He seems like the rare human who actually would be really motivated to criticize computer magazines for a lack of rigor and maybe not pick up on the horde’s real motives until a few weeks later.
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Miss Wallace posted:Me and Rifftrax are doing a thing: It’s nice to see you getting tapped for stuff like this rather than people like, say, the Fine bros. It would be a nice development for 2018 if you entered into a mutually beneficial relationship with people who knew how to run a business and treated you professionally.
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Apr 16, 2018 21:53
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gaymartin posted:I believe the point the anime robot housewife is trying to make is that "sjw" types tend to cover up for their sides crimes regardless of how heinous they might be, on top of later it coming to light that other people knew about it but said nothing purely because they agreed with them on something such as the current implosion of channel awesome, really not sure what the goobers have to do with this either, I have never understood this mentality of not calling out an rear end in a top hat for being an rear end in a top hat purely he stands with you on the same political spectrum and or ideologies. Sir this is an Arby’s.
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Apr 18, 2018 01:15
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I wonder which element of the CA thing got the nazis baying and howling. Chance to punch down + women having opinions/existing + extremely online? Even the imminently dunkable/eternally self-dunking Ian Miles Cheong tried (failed) from the safety of his weekly Incel Corner internet column to get an internet horde after Dan
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Apr 18, 2018 01:51
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The nazis are coming from inside the thread. What a time to be alive.
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Apr 18, 2018 02:31
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Most other people who make videos build actual production + editing skills also, in addition to the suite of performance skills they typically end up with by continually growing and challenging themselves. Doug is like the ultimate cautionary tale there.
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Apr 18, 2018 11:17
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MiddleOne posted:Yeah, like most people actually develop their craft. The big difference between James Rolfe’s interminable juvenile skits and Doug’s is that Rolfe was having fun trying out different techniques that he liked or was curious about, like doing his own Raimi ram-o-cam, while Doug attempted nothing other than padding.
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Apr 18, 2018 16:49
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Does movie bob believe he is not part of the working class? That might be more delusional than thinking he would escape the ovens if all people with a low IQ were liquidated by a benevolent dictator technocrat, as he believes must happen.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I mean, like, take something like this: Her point is that they’re morally disgusting for having no sincere or stable values and for treating politics like a game. She’s not saying they’re good because they’re insincere nazis. She’s a philosopher accusing them of being Thrasymachus. For reference, being hollow men who believe in nothing but money is the problem with the NYT scum who poo poo out glowing profiles of nazis for being so polite. Have you never read or heard anything she has said about nazis?
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Impermanent posted:Contra's bad because her videos are tacky and her characterization of people more radical than her in her videos is always as some flavor of extreme ideologue. That she insists on debating nazis - people for whom all publicity is good unless its a direct assault on them specifically - is just icing. Name a nazi she’s debated.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I have some bad news for you about people who say leftism is in fact super bad and not good. Can you show us something where she a) provides a definition of leftism and b) says that thing is bad?
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Politics doesn’t get done on twitter for gently caress’s sake. Also tell us a time Contrapoints said leftism was bad.
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