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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



ApeHawk posted:

Do they even have any feet left to shoot?
Apparently they really want to test Brad.

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



At this point I'm more bewildered that they ever got this far without the site imploding, if this is the kind of PR we're dealing with.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Mokinokaro posted:

Apparently Tamara and Malcolm tweeted near identifical refutations of the claims.

https://twitter.com/TamaraLChambers...9242106880?s=19

https://twitter.com/MalcolmtheRay/s...2995207169?s=19

Feels like they're quoting right from a Michaud press release. Tamara's account had one extremely close to Malcom's in wording but it was deleted.

Sad to hear assholes are apparently hounding them as well. They don't deserve it as they're locked into contracts.
Didnít know CA was owned by Sinclair.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



SgtSteel91 posted:

Iím reminded of H.Bomberguyís video that started with him taking about some beloved British personality that was later revealed to be a pedophile
Wasn't that John Oliver?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Alaois posted:

i misread which part of the post this was questioning and thought you were asking if John Oliver was a pedophile
I certainly hope not

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Leal posted:

Yeah like I get that he still wants to remain friends with the Walkers... Its not like leaving the site is going to taint the friendship. You can still be friends, just disassociate from the website.
Considering the kind of people the Walkers are, and how they still refuse ANY kind of introspection about this mess, I imagine they'd see leaving the site as the ultimate betrayal.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



I think it's important to remember how many people just watch NC on their YouTube feed and are done with it until next week. They're not reading comments or looking at Twitter and being exposed to all this.

Doug himself would have to do some hosed up poo poo ON the show to really hit rock bottom.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



So it's literally just the Blockbuster guy and Larry?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



And Guru Larry as Himself

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



So the Walkers are leaving or did I misread something?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Arcsquad12 posted:

He could call himself Doug. I never liked the monikers producers gave themselves.
I think itís fine if youíre posing it as a distinct character so people donít mistake an act for your genuine feelings on something.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



I mean didn't Doug originally want to kill off the character because he was tired of it?

Seems like a silver lining for him, at least.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



CaligulaKangaroo posted:

To be fair, even Doug has talents he can use in other jobs. I know he did improv for like a minute, and there was that PBS commercial from like ten years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUhTevBnqbE

If the guy gets a decent agent, he can have a steady career.
I like that the whole premise of the commercial is that his impressions suck.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



The Bee posted:

And here we are, forgetting Larry again.
Hell-o, Iím the Nostalgia Guru...

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Mokinokaro posted:

He's terminal. He was never going to really be home free.

This was sadly only a matter of time.
I think he actually did manage to beat it back when it was said he was terminal. The cancer is rare enough for someone his age that it was always hard to say what his exact odds word. I guess it doesn't matter either way now.

Sucks about the specialist, as my grandfather died a similar way. Somehow they forgot humans tend to have two kidneys, and the other one wasn't clean

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



That video was probably made well in advance of the Channel Awesome stuff, but I definitely started thinking of that when she got into media and reconciling it with immoral behavior from executives. Really good stuff.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



BobbyK posted:

Doug Walker seems like a real idiot
I think at this point itís safe to say heís an incredibly lazy person. From his refusal to grow or develop his craft, to his utter lack of communication with people outside his inner circle, Doug just wants to coast as much as possible.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



FlamingLiberal posted:

Not sure how that helps anything for him. He is one of the few people close to CA who has not commented at all on this whole thing.
Sticking with CA and not saying anything is tacit to siding with them. It's possible he's bound by some sort of weird contract, but we don't know that and his only response being flippant gifs doesn't help anything.

I don't think unsubscribing is some kind of unreasonable response.

Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 1, 2018

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Bakeneko posted:

I don't think his silence implies anything beyond not wanting to get involved in the drama. Isn't he personal friends with the Walkers?
I feel like the whole mess has gone past the point where "drama" is a good description of it. Like, "drama" is one producer slept with another producer's spouse or something. This is years of abuse and exploitation of labor, peppered with misogyny.

In Brad's case, there's a difference giving a friend the benefit of the doubt and being a coward. At some point being a good friend means calling them out on their poo poo.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



But this whole discussion arose around not supporting him via subscription, patreon, etc. Nobody is talking about pestering him on Twitter.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Alaois posted:

maybe he means it in the other sense of the word you often see in athletics scouting, where a 17 year old kid has the size and stature of a 30 year old, he's a real manchild.
Not to be confused with Childman, the young hero with proportional strength of a grown man.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Dapper_Swindler posted:

jesus she is worse than boogie, i think. thats basically "well just because the facists are driving you out to the woods with guns at your backs doesn't mean they will kill you" level poo poo. while i don't think trump personally gives two fucks about LGBT people one way or another, he is surrounded by people who at "best" want them stripped of all rights and trump likes the approval of these monsters.
Trump out out guidelines when he took office that women ďdress like womenĒ and wear feminine clothes.

While Iím sure a queer person can sit down with him and get decent treatment (because literally anyone on the planet can get what they want from Trump through flattery), he is still very bigoted to his core. You canít say someone doesnít give two fucks when they ban trans people from the military on loving TWITTER completely out of the blue.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Itís real frustrating that we showed that people into gaming could organize, and we could get some real change in the way too chummy relationship some game sites have with publishers, but instead that power was used to show that nerds are actually terrible, terrible people.

Are there any journalism outlets funded solely via patreon or something. I donít mean people like hbomberguy, a person or small group that put out a video essay every so often, but a site with a staff and regular coverage of industry news?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Kim Justice posted:

You've got Easy Allies as well, which is mostly people who used to work for GameTrailers and are now wholly funded via Patreon. Of course that's mostly video stuff.
I thought they had some corporate funding as well

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



The scummy thing was that SimCity 2013 sold well and had decent hype because of an hour demo. A lot of flaws like the tiny plot of land you get were brushed off as just being a limitation of the demo. Nope.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Weapon durability I can take or leave, but the old bad thing in FE is permadeath. While Iím glad thereís an option to turn it off, itís a very lazily implemented mechanic thatís been practically untouched since the beginning. For 90% of players it just adds an extra failure trigger to levels (ďDonít let anybody die unless itís some new person that you have no intention of usingĒ) and thereís so much more you could do with it. Lose a character another character had a high support with? Well that character goes into a berserker rage when fighting whatever killed them. Or maybe they get a general buff but take more damage from whatever weapon killed their friend/spouse.

The kind of poo poo that creates a more memorable, unique experience than ďOh Bob died in my game because I already had a good archer and I didnít feel like starting the level over.Ē

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



The support system in Fates was some real square peg/round hole poo poo. I get that itís a big part of why the series came back from the brink, but geez was that some slapped on poo poo.

Even worse is that the game had only two queer pairings, which were exclusive to different versions so I hope you like the version with the pairing that you want. And you also donít produce a child from it, which...playing the realism card is pretty loving bold when the game has a Plane of Accelerated Aging so you can send your son or daughter into war.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Knowing your audience is part of PR.

Like a press release saying ďNo Diablo 4Ē is smart. Having a mobile game that you arenít even developing as your capstone announcement is...less so.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Weird post stuff

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Just fyi, but Toby said Deltarune doesnít really have distinct endings this time around.

Like, there are differences in how the ending occurs, but nothing so radical as in Undertale.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Kim Justice posted:

Anti-anime bias confirmed once again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjrMK6FG4WE

Not recommending this or anything as it literally just came up on my subscriptions and it's only some UK YouTube donk but it's amazing just how many YT videos I see on the feeds that bring up nowt but the simple one-word reaction of "....why?"
Thereís a weirdly large number of ďEat a lot of food/eat it quicklyĒ channels.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Iím certainly nostalgic for the times before the internet culture war. Before the dark times.
Nah, I remember back then when it was all about trying to care as little as possible about things, and showing even a shred of sincerity could get you raked over the coals. Of course, this is all while caring way too much about certain things.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Fantastic Threests

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Just really sad releasing your first lesbian character in your game decade-old game and expecting praise for it. Just makes it all the more transparent that youíre trying to cover your rear end in the most cynical way possible.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Twitter announced a few days ago that intention misgendering is grounds for punishment, which is why terfs are all cranky now.

Of course, people still eat suspensions for calling people terfs, so it remains to be seen how consistently the rule will be followed, if at all.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Ehhhh I'm not really buying that since the bulk of Yelling Internet Man videos were aimed specifically at low-hanging fruit like blockbuster bombs or cheaply made video game adaptations. Rolfe did it because he had a love for making films and video games, but for a lot of other people it was just real easy to produce a video where feign outrage that Bad Thing is Bad.

I guess the difference is that these types of videos were rarely critiques in the same way as you'd expect from a game or film critic.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Dapper_Swindler posted:

but anyway. i will take the YouTube over most of the big review sites. plus youtubers are likely to review stuff more comprehensively then a giant site.
Once publishers see the way the wind is blowing (and many already have), I suspect a lot of YouTube channels will be just as compromised as any corporate gaming site. Maybe even worse since a publisher will probably be better equipped to outmaneuver negotiations with a single person/small team than another corporate entity.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Neddy Seagoon posted:

I'd say loot crates like that aren't the same thing. You're getting physical objects that are equal in value to the money spent, they're priced to entice a single one-off purchase instead of a constant stream of small ones and the expectation is "What will you get from this small range? It's a surprise..." rather than "KEEP ROLLING FOR THE RARE ONES!! KEEP. ROLLING. FOREVER!!"
There are absolutely ones that have a SUPER RARE GOLDEN FIGURE and similar poo poo to keep you buying. They are loving everywhere and in every flavor, from Rick & Mort keychains to Pony plushes. I have no idea if toy makers looked at video games and thought ďthatís not a bad idea...Ē but predatory ones exist and Iím sure even without rarity people may drop 50 bucks to get their Favorite. Itís bad, even more so being targeted at a younger demographic.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Really amazing to treat lootboxes like art.

Weird how indie joints arenít tossing predatory micro DLC into their games.

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Yeah, the episode was definitely more about ďstereotyping and gender tribalism makes no senseĒ as opposed to anything remotely about gender fluidity, but that whole episode is a follow-up to 90s shows and how they were supposedly pushing an lgbt agenda (spoiler: they werenít). From that perspective you can see why he included it, even if he read something that the writers VERY LIKELY did not intend.

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