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Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Dishwasher posted:

Growing up, Star Wars was always merely a delivery device for space battle (and occasional snow speeder) porn along with related space battle games. I was all that Dat Pew Pew. The prequels disappointed mainly because the battles weren't good and, most of all, I thought the ship designs were total rear end. But the sequels and R1 delivered in spades by just giving me the old poo poo with a new coat of paint and lots of splosions, even tho this cycle isn't exactly Shakespeare either.
Growing up, the sequel movies were the same to me. But when I look back on TFA, which came out in 2015, I feel I appreciate the 'talkie' bits a lot more.

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Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

clown shoes posted:

This is just sad. Some people are trying to raise money to remake The Last Jedi.
https://news.avclub.com/this-fan-remake-of-the-last-jedi-is-totally-real-defin-1827031473
Yeah I feel like this has been linked ad infinitum.

Here is my new Star Wars watch order:
Episode 1
Solo
Rogue One
E5 (the best one)
E6
The Last Jedi

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I vaguely recall a rumour that Disney was looking into rebooting the prequels as a tv series. Does anybody know what I'm talking about/have any links?

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

cargohills posted:

Remaking the prequels is a really stupid idea and I don't know why anyone thinks it would ever happen.
Actually I disagree. Imagine remembering the prequels in ten years with rose tinted glasses. Its beautiful fodder for an actually good proper tv series. True Detective + I,II,III = $$ for Disney.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I prefer 1,2,3, solo, rogue one, 4,5,6,7,8.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Harime Nui posted:

Solo, the David Bowie/Philip Glass collaboration
RotS
it's an emotional journey
Philip Glass leading into that incredible space battle at the start of Return of the Sith is perfect. That battle gets me so crazy, it makes me feel like a child honestly. I was watching Legend of Galactic Heroes the other evening and I just wanted an upper atmosphere space battle. I love the way Anakin says 'They are coming around." nonironically.

My one problem with Rogue One is when k2so runs away after the ambush on Jeda. It looks so GGI.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

No Mods No Masters posted:

They’re famous you tubers. Sort of like pewdiepie but fat, old, and even more alt right
The alt right ennoble fascism its kinda a serious thing right now man.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

from the george that is chafing

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

A rare meme view for a star wars nerd posting on the internet: every star wars film was good.
also here is my order of the films starting with the best:
E5
E9
E2
E6
E8
E3
E1
E4
E7

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I like the fan theory that Rey weilds her ls just like sheev does. all thrusts and stuff. thats a cool detail.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Sinteres posted:

I think you're way off here. Nothing sells merchandise like growing up giving a poo poo about something, because not only will adults spend shitloads of money on the stuff, but they'll do their best to introduce their kids to it. If people could capture lightning in a bottle like that at will, Marvel movies wouldn't be crushing everything else in Hollywood.
Watch Disney buy Pokemon and release five movies every year, each based around a subsequent entry of the Pokedex.

Also, I like what they said on RLM (or was it another thing?) that Rae should have gone full dark empress. Duel blades, iron throne, everything. But the Mouse needs another princess for his castle. Ugh. Also ugh that I'm still mired in caring about Star Wars at the beginning of the 20s. I need to SEVER.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I can't wait till the infomaps pngs just showing up showing where everybody was at different points of this film. And also, to aid this thread's queries, what ship they were driving.
Also, I saw TFA three times in cinema, TLJ twice and this one once. And I think that just fits right. The next star wars film I will see 0 times. And then the one after that I will see -1 times.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Literally the only thing I'm happy about with where they took Rey was making her close enough to dark emperess that there will be fan theories about her turning into that after the chronology of Rise of Skywalker. Best Rey moment in the series: Pottering around her home on Jakku to Rey's theme.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

the Wachowski brothers
I don't care that you are quoting somebody here. It's ultra hosed up and not cool to misgender/deadgender/etc ever. I usually enjoy your slanted, provocative thoughts but this is disgusting and vile and while it may seem like just a drop, If you haven't noticed, there is an ocean of bubbling fascism and white nationalism out there right now.

Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Oct 12, 2020

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

"No Luke Skywalker, I am your father" isn't really the twist boomers make it out to be. It's predictable, dull and I have no respect for it. imo, it's dwarfed by twists like the end of R1 where all the principal characters are killed off and we switch to secondary ones for the last bit. Or the twist in Phantom Menace where Qui Gon dies. That blew my mind as a child.

Hell, the twists so far of Mando are even more impressive.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

Yea it's mega lamo. Totes boring. The films with the pacing of Crash Bandicoot are much superior.
You laugh but I feel Star Wars is best when it's using the same tropes as video games. I can't find the quote here but the other day I was reading extracts of J. G. Ballard and he talked about Star Wars being best when it's one event after the next with no mind to the overall plot. And I'd agree. Why do the planet splatters laser beams reach across the galaxy? Ugh,, etc. etc. Just enjoy the show maaan! It'd be a lot cooler if you did.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Robotnik Nudes posted:


The Prequels are the only good Star Wars movies.
This is a very good post and has changed my mind on the sequel films. My current watch order is:
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3
Solo
Rogue One
Episode 4
Episode 6
Never watch:
Episode 7
Episode 8
Episode 9

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Legend of Galactic Heroes.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Imagine fifteen parallel worlds to this one. Each has contains one unique Star Wars film. We live in the sixtieth with all of them. There is no tv shows or EU akin to ours for simplicity's sake - they have their own unknown ones. Which world would be the most confused? Which the most impressed? Which the most grateful?

I feel the worlds with the first and second Ewok films would be pretty satisfied. As would the Christmas special world - albeit parents would probably be a bit confused but kids would catch on to the simple plot. The world with the animated Clone Wars film (2008 was it?) would be stoked as its a fun.

The world with A New Hope would probably be the most coherent in terms of placing star wars somewhere. There would probably be quite a bit of EU - but for whatever reason the cries for more films would go unheeded. Maybe it would be seen as a cursed venture.

I feel Empire Strikes Back world would also make some sense. It would probably garner much more comparisons to Blake's 7. I do feel TFA would be a massive hit - mindblowing and incredible. The Last Jedi would be odd and weird. The Skywalker final film would be absolutely insane in it's response. I can't help but feel it would be a huge hit.

Rogue One would be a small genre niche film.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Glottis posted:

Did YOU really like it? I'm happy to be disproven. I'm not talking about a general critic view, I'm saying almost no person who considered themselves a Star Wars fan would say they enjoyed the movie overall.
lol this has to be a troll post. ALL of my friends who would say they are 'star wars fans' love ROTS and either say its the high point of the film series or at least a close 2nd to ESB. When the 2005 film came out, one of my high school buddies learned one of Anakin's monologues and ended up getting to the Nationals on some drama competition on his acting of it. Whenever anybody I know talks about rewatching star wars films its always ROTS in their top 3 films. But my favourite anecdotal gxds proof that Return of the Sith is enjoyed by many 'star wars fans' is the fact that, haha, Kanye West is a self described star wars fans and loves that film the most. He literally shouts it out in one of his recent songs thank you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN8iG8Y9eoY

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Oh, I am a huge dumbie and realized that after i made my post, and was reading the last few pages with increasing horror as the discussion was firmly stuck on rise of skywalker with no pivot to return of the sith. yes, alas, poor silly poster.

now to make an argument in favour of rise of skywalker.
jk, ye gxds, jk.
i did like, hmm, the opening sequence on exogol, exogol,

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Screenrant is awful. They will do articles like "doom 7 video game leaked!" And then the article is just word salad around a Reddit post from /r/doomfanart and also mention in the article they didn't say it was a real leak so it's on you bud.

New star ✨🔫 watch order:
Copy pasting all screenrant articles that mention star wars
Running them through a text-to-speech
Recording this into a YouTube video
Playing the video full screen
The image for the video is buff jarjar

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

The story group isn't canon.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Ghost Leviathan posted:

And of course, given the clones literally deploy to the Imperial March, you're meant to realise- this is not a good thing.
And also, as per the great wook, re the seperatists theme, 'After Jango Fett reveals that he was hired by a person named Tyranus, the mystery motif stops playing, and is replaced by a fragment of The Emperor's Theme. The conspiracy motif then returns as Kenobi leaves Fett's quarters.'
It's all empire and such, all the way through. I personally think the line 'there were heroes on both sides' is a lie. I think the opening crawl lies quite a bit. Like Jawas,
The Crawls lied.

Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Nov 21, 2021

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I read somewhere recently they are looking to reboot Ghostbusters again which just makes my heart hurt.

On the topic of the star wars, my first watch order list of 2022 is about to drop... Oh poo poo... Here it is:
Watch Order for January 2022
Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (1999)
Episode 2: Attack of the Clones (2002)
Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Solo
Rogue One
Episode 4: A New Hope
Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back
Episode 6: Return of the Jedi

And that's a great place to leave it.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

They watch order now?

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I want to spend eternity scouring the library of babu frik for books that list obscure watch orders. The archaic star wars revival. The arcane watch orders sought by the coughman death squads. Perhaps one is missing. But then again, If an item does not appear in our records it does not exist.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Vinylshadow posted:

So the watch order is hitting Random Article nine times and watching/reading/playing whatever the article's first appearance was?

Star Wars Galaxies
Thrawn
Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge: The Official Black Spire Outpost Cookbook
Trespass (TCW Episode)
RotJ
ESB
Star Wars 15 (1977)
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Star Wars: Empire At War
You didn't edit this one? It has great symmetry. I suppose the cookbook would be to cook every meal, which would be fun. And then you get to see s01e15 of The Clone Wars animation wupwup!

A hot watch order might be the Mustafar trilogy:
Return of the Sith
Rogue One
The Rise of Skywalker

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

As time goes on I become more convinced Disney intentionally tanked the ST in order to freeze the collective cultural memory of star wars in the place that generates the most revenue. Merch, IPs, iconic characters. There is literally no incentive for them to have 'story' as what people think of when they think of star wars over 'iconic characters'. They killed the one part of star wars which could have left their characters in the dust: narrative.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

I've really enjoyed the discussion of the last couple pages btw. This is the poo poo.

I rewatched Rogue One a couple days ago. The mind-bending alien land squid near the end of act 1 is so weirdly placed. They build it up as a threat but it doesn't really do anything but daze an ancillary character??

There is also this moment where K2 is sent away "Go back to the ship and wait for us there" on Jedha and its ever so slightly odd. Like, they needed to get rid of him for the plot to move forward but didn't do any proper shoots around it. It kind of looks like they reshot the line, and he runs away in a video game/frictionless CGI way. I don't know, maybe I'm reading into it. I just think, much like Solo, you really see the seams of Rogue One. Its still my favourite of the Disney films and its freaking awesome in many ways. They blow up all the main characters. Good, yes, finally, something like that!

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Yes,see! Well said. Rogue One is cool, if I had to rank the DISNEYS:
Rogue One
The Last Jedi
Solo
The Force Awakens
The Rise of Skywalker

The Solo rankinge is contentious for me. I think I enjoy it much, much more when I treat the main guy like just some guy and not actually HanSolo. Like, he just happens to have the same name because the galaxy has trillions of beings. Or something.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

It was in this very thread that somebody said one of the reasons Disney double downed on blood lineage for force users was centralising who gets to be a hero and it broke me. Disney actively squashed the 'anybody could be a jedi' vibes of the Lucas films in order to promote hero worship of their IP collectibles jesus christ. I mean, the whole enterprise of star wars is capital from the start but I don't know. I'm too sober to be posting like this.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Jerkface posted:

That bit in TFA was always incongruous with the story. Its even incongruous with the story as presented in the same movie, but also directly contradicts the comics and book tie in junk. Poe has an entire comic run where he fights the first order constantly and they have ships and stuff. In the movie he acts wowed by the interior of the star destroyer because there is so much shiny things and personnel but he knows who the first order is and fights them at the beginning. Then by the end they are all unsurprised that the FO has finished their super weapon ?!?!

No one is like "Where did they get the resources for this!!"

I think its the kind of scene that the ST does too often, which is having the characters in the movie standing in for the audience. Like we're supposed to be surprised at the scale of our villains. TFA is constantly caught between acting like the first order is just now revealing itself and our heroes are encountering them for the first time all the time and wanting it to be a conflict that has already existed (aka why the resistance even exists).
God drat now this chat is making me want to revisit 2015 and watch TFA again. That was six years ago hot drat. I just remember TFA having good bits. Like the castle crumbling battle or the fight in the snow. It had good bits right? right?

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Somebody a page or two back asked for a link to an earlier age, a more civilized age, an age of an earlier star wars thread so here is the 2012 one I found: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3514675

Note the first page where everybody is pumped about disney buying star wars because it'll mean more episode films sans Lucas.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Yeah and if I just spent $ and a Friday night on a blockbuster movie experience with popcorn and drink you know I'm going to be giving it a B+ minimum because gently caress trying to be right and objective over crawling for any sip of forget potion for a few hours.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Podracing was awesome and Disney will do a podracing trilogy in eight years time.

Also, it's time for a new watch order list:

Episode 1
Episode 2
Force Awakens

I think that's all the films that include podracing in one way or another. Wupwup!

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008


Spaceship from the best Star Wars film.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

New watch order:
Episode 2
Episode 3
All Obi episodes with Uncle Owen
Episode 4

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Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Darko posted:

Yeah, they are. I have no idea what they're even doing, although I did just read the whole show was rewritten because it was originally all set on Tatooine and was too much like Boba Fett so they realized they had to do it all over.
Thank the gods for that too! This feels like Mando in that it's a role-playing series of sessions. This is the sweet spot for star wars, just dramatised rolling weird dice hell yeah

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