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sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012


wormskull got me back into playing this, and i've been having fun. idk if enough people here play it to actually warrant a thread, but here it is anyway.

question about the labyrinth: is it worth running through if i'm not currently strong enough to kill izaro, or should i avoid it until i am?

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012


I think the nerd wisdom is that you save labyrinth for like an act later than you unlock a section but I personally at least try once as early as I can

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


i have the new hybrid warrior/necromancer class deep in the postgame atm and its easily the most broken character ive ever made, running around with an army of undead and frying everything with lightning is a good time

re: lab. it sucks but its made a lot better if you have a good quick movement skill to skip all the bullshit like shield/leap slam linked with attack speed. just rush for the boss encounters and ignore everything else, the reward is picking a subclass which is a huge permanent power boost so it's worth doing ASAP. but the boss is very tough so if youre not shredding the campaign maybe beef up a bit

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008



Lab is pointless if you cant kill Izaro, but if you have range you can put down a decoy totem to deal with his auto attacks for the first two labs. At that point its a question of if you have enough damage to not fall asleep during the fight

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008



Also make sure you have a movement skill that goes over fences and gaps otherwise it really sucks dealing with certain trapped areas.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011


ah, finally, oblivion


Larry Parrish posted:

I think the nerd wisdom is that you save labyrinth for like an act later than you unlock a section but I personally at least try once as early as I can

don't wait until after act 10 to fight izaro round 3, that resistance penalty hurts

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


i dont think im gonna make a second character before the season's up so ive just been slapping vaals on everything

the whole game should just be the postgame maps its so fun, being able to sort of tweak what challenges you want or shotgunning it with alchs/vaals and going through something nearly impossible is cool

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011


ah, finally, oblivion


I'm going to show izaro the steel key to my wooden front door and break his old loving mind

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012


i'm kind of curious: is there any currency i should be saving instead of using to craft low-end stuff to use? i tend to save most currency, but it's sort of hard to tell what's actually valuable or not.

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


sector_corrector posted:

i'm kind of curious: is there any currency i should be saving instead of using to craft low-end stuff to use? i tend to save most currency, but it's sort of hard to tell what's actually valuable or not.

chaos and the stuff with faces on it is really valuable, and fusings are pretty uncommon, so use fusings on gear you think you're gonna keep for a while

the currency system is really confusing and bad especially for newbies lol im starting to wonder if they'll ever consolidate it

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012


extremebuff posted:

chaos and the stuff with faces on it is really valuable, and fusings are pretty uncommon, so use fusings on gear you think you're gonna keep for a while

the currency system is really confusing and bad especially for newbies lol im starting to wonder if they'll ever consolidate it

that's more or less what i was doing, so that's cool

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


http://www.filterblade.xyz/ if you go to download on this page and keep the default settings this is a great loot filter, it highlights valuable items, makes the really important stuff (uniques, rare currency, items that can be traded for valuables etc.) shoot a big beam of light up and even marks them on the minimap so you dont miss them, while also filtering out all the useless junk

it makes the game so much easier to read and understand lol the devs support it officially and idk why they dont just integrate it into the loving release instead of asking you to DL stuff off some weird sites when it's so popular

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


its also pretty much mandatory in the lategame when every screen is shoulder-to-shoulder with hundreds of enemies all dropping their own stuff. i mean look at this comparison between no filter v. filter lol why is this not in the game by default

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012


oh yeah - is there any reason to keep skill gems that i don't plan on using immediately? i've found that they're somewhat easy to buy later in the game, but also am worried about missing something that might be useful later.

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010


sector_corrector posted:

oh yeah - is there any reason to keep skill gems that i don't plan on using immediately? i've found that they're somewhat easy to buy later in the game, but also am worried about missing something that might be useful later.

you should keep the gems with quality since you can trade a bunch of them in for the currency that upgrades gems, but otherwise not really. you unlock vendors later on that sell every single skill in the game for a pittance

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011


ah, finally, oblivion


sector_corrector posted:

i'm kind of curious: is there any currency i should be saving instead of using to craft low-end stuff to use? i tend to save most currency, but it's sort of hard to tell what's actually valuable or not.

If you want to use currency productively using alts to make the flasks you want is basically all reward and no risk

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012


Also the ones you buy from vendors come with experience already on them but drops are level 1 so I generally don't bother outside the early game. I do keep ones I cant buy on my current character though, just in case.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012


extremebuff posted:

you should keep the gems with quality since you can trade a bunch of them in for the currency that upgrades gems, but otherwise not really. you unlock vendors later on that sell every single skill in the game for a pittance

ok, that's what i figured. i also haven't run into any gems that have variant qualities so far apart from Vaals.

i'm probably not going to ask anything else, but wanted to clear those things up before i perma-screwed myself.

Fantastic Flyer
Aug 8, 2017


There are some gems that can't be bought from normal vendors and some that aren't sold by any vendor, but they're rare enough that they should stand out if they do drop. If you want the list to be sure, here's the wiki page.

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Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011


ah, finally, oblivion


sector_corrector posted:

ok, that's what i figured. i also haven't run into any gems that have variant qualities so far apart from Vaals.

i'm probably not going to ask anything else, but wanted to clear those things up before i perma-screwed myself.

the only real long term mistakes you can make is not inviting zana to your hideout or using an orb with a face to craft. Any other mistake can be solved by throwing enough regrets at it, unlike real life.

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