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Tired Moritz posted:why the hell would I know anything about your n2 chat Get hosed I've been after you since d2.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:37
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so not gonna answer that question or?
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Feb 24, 2019 18:39
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Tired Moritz posted:so not gonna answer that question or? Gee how would you know what I said in a chat with random players in a hidden role game. Perhaps if there was some sort of adversarial faction the members of whom are unknown that can communicate with each other. And one of them was in the chat. I don't know how many scum are left someone in that chat could be one.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:45
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So tell us who do you think this person is.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:48
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A Sometimes Food posted:Gee how would you know what I said in a chat with random players in a hidden role game. Who in that chat do you think is scum? As to your earlier point, Toal claims to have an investigation on you that returned town, but clearly their investigations are compromised (or fake). Would it not be reasonable to press Toal for why they are pushing for a Rex lunch when the natural assumption is that they are insane and the investigation result on you is the scum result?
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Feb 24, 2019 18:49
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Please actually look at the situation objectively.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:49
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Tired Moritz posted:So tell us who do you think this person is. We need to stop echoing each other here.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:49
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Im skimming through day 3 and I dont even know who ASF is with during N2
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Feb 24, 2019 18:58
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Tired Moritz posted:So tell us who do you think this person is. Not sure, still rereading everyone in n2 chat. Alsothe info may have come from elsewhere/you wildly guessed n3 not knowing an easy result. Your flip will help there. I know I'm town so my assumption with Toal is and remains that they are lying scum, had their IP result hosed with or they're an insane cop where results are randomised instead of reversed.
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Feb 24, 2019 18:59
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Oh so you're just pulling crap out of your rear end and tunnelling me because you're salty that I FOS you once in day 2. Okay.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:02
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A Sometimes Food posted:Right. You'll need an old man and a can of prunes. Fifth and final post day 1. Scum move. A Sometimes Food posted:Keane's intial post was laughing about cuddling an empowerer, he explained it as ruefully laughing at our bad luck but it was easy to read as gloating scum posting in the wrong chat. A Sometimes Food posted:Keane was unlikely to have been killed by a townie though, the other nightkill victim was scum. Keane would probably have been killed by scum while vig/3p killed Tobbs. A Sometimes Food posted:Scum may not have thought it was a strong enough case to work with, may have had another tactic in mind or really unlikely admittedly, there were no betrayers on the riverbank to see Keane's "scumslip". A Sometimes Food posted:the rules say yes, but the flavour for the deaths make it seem more like kills. Keane's certainly was. He was explicitly murdered. day 2 participation riding off the back of commentary, no reads. A Sometimes Food posted:Uh, what? A Sometimes Food posted:Like not to OMGUS, but I was not particularly sold on cuddling you, but that was a really bad post Dick. the only time ASF posted about other players was when called out by DB. A Sometimes Food posted:AAI's flailing reminds me of my flailing as scum a few games back when I misread the thread and mixed in scum knowledge accidentally in my posts. Like it could be an innocent misread but it is really reminiscent of me loving up as scum a few games back. This post is much more similar to the post that Rex accused me of making. A gentle (scum) push towards AAI (town) but ultimately ending the vote on someone else, literally unwilling to commit to that push on the same post. Instead accusing someone else of misreading them because they felt safer about it probably. A Sometimes Food posted:Not convinced with TMo but willing to see what plays out with their claim. As I discussed in the cliffs chat I am onboard with a Xiw cuddle, it'd be good to see if the scum spread theory has merit, especially as confirmed town Beet first floated it. Again, the scum on the vote that rex was worried about if that still matters. A Sometimes Food posted:I'd rather not claim. Claiming the specifics of my role would reduce the effectiveness of town with a related role. If we do mass claim I will only do so after them. I'm not sure that this changes anything with the back up claim? I'm not sure how claiming back up would weaken other roles. And that's just about all of ASF's posts. ASF is scum imo lets save ourselves a lunch and start there. Thank you namaste.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:10
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A Sometimes Food posted:I know I'm town so my assumption with Toal is and remains that they are lying scum, had their IP result hosed with or they're an insane cop where results are randomised instead of reversed. Yes but we don't know this.
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Feb 24, 2019 19:57
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Tired Moritz posted:Did they even claim who they "searched" last night? Nobody, I was injured.
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Feb 24, 2019 21:22
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Trying to figure out if asf is really bad town or regular bad scum.
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Feb 24, 2019 21:26
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Tired Moritz posted:Im skimming through day 3 and I dont even know who ASF is with during N2 Rex and I.
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Feb 24, 2019 21:27
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Toalpaz posted:I guess Somber could be scum too. That would be a pretty cool gambit.
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Feb 24, 2019 21:29
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Ohh, asf is the second backup. Hm.
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Feb 24, 2019 21:30
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ASF: please post your role + night actions
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Feb 24, 2019 21:33
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 Votecount for Day 4   Toalpaz (3): Somberbrero, Tired Moritz (1): A Sometimes Food A Sometimes Food (1): Toalpaz KhediveRex (0): Toalpaz, xiw (0): A Sometimes Food, Not Voting (4): b-minus1, Max, Mr. Humalong, xiwWith 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 25th, 2019 at 8:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 3 hours.  There is a rumbling in the mountains!
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Feb 24, 2019 23:01
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##vote asf
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Feb 24, 2019 23:51
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I think it would help to have everyone post short reads on everyone else just to put everything together. I'll try to do a summary of everything we know when I get home.
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Feb 25, 2019 00:17
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The oscars are tonight and I need to win my oscar pool so probably tomorrow.
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Feb 25, 2019 00:56
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I'll post mine tomorrow morning. Today was not a great day for me and I'm heading to bed early.
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Feb 25, 2019 02:58
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Dead Players Infinitum - Sefu - Village aligned Empowerer was exiled into the desert on day 1! CCKeane - Miane - Self aligned Jester was murdered on night 1, he has lost the game. Tobbs - Tathra - Betrayer aligned Rolecop was strung up, gutted, and filled with scorpions on night 1! Hal Incandenza - Amsi - Self aligned lyncher can no longer win and has lost the game and wandered into the desert on night 1! merk - Braheem - village aligned Vengeful Villager was modkilled for not paying attention on day 2 flerp - Hunra - Self aligned Serial Killer was staked with a strange invention on day 2! chaoslord - oba - self aligned survivor was exiled into the desert on day 2! hambeet - Zuberi - village aligned inventor was murdered on night 2! bowmore - Maat - Villager aligned Bomb was exiled to the desert on day 3! dick bastardly - Astarte - Villager aligned Jailor was murdered on night 3! Icephoenix - Donkor - village aligned bulletproof was modkilled for copy pasting out of thread communication on day 4. Alive Player Claims[/b] 1. Toalpaz Claimed Cop on D4. Investigations were: AnAnonymous Idiot/IcePhoenix - Scum, but flipped town A Sometimes Food - Town Humalong - Failed Investigation 2. KhediveRex Claimed Cop to me privately in the Red Cliffs on N1 Investigations were: Keane - Failed because Keane died. I can confirm that KR mentioned investigating Keane to me night one, I thought it was a good idea. The other name he floated was Hum. ASometimesFood - Failed Investigation Toal - Failed Investigation 3. Max Verified doublevoter with limited charges. Given a gun by Hambeet, shot SK 4.b-minus Backup for Empowerer/Cop/Tracker Became an Empowerer end of D1 Empowered: Max N1 Beet N2 DB N3 Specifically, binus is 'First Backup' Binus can you please clarify the exact function of the Empowerer role? 5. A Sometimes Food Flavor name Tabia Claimed Secondary Backup for Cop/Tracker/Empowerer/Jailor Became a Jailor at the end of N3 6. Xiw Claimed 'Sandstormed' on N2 and forced to the Riverbank to heal on N3 I'm just going to quote this because it's a lot. "Zalaki, scavenger, I passively search "better" and I can pick someone to get a copy of their search result if they get one. I have been assuming this stacks with the staying in one place bonus but i don't think i get to search tonight at all so i'm not going to be able to search somewhere good until N4 now." 7. Tired Moritz Tracker Max N1 to nowhere DickyB N2 to nowhere ASF N3 nowhere 8. Humalong Unclaimed 9. [b]Somberbrero Unclaimed Jailed N3 This isn't everything but I don't have much more time tonight.
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Feb 25, 2019 03:57
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lol of course i hosed that up. cpiggy may i please fix?
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Feb 25, 2019 03:59
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my flavor name Bomani As empowerer, my target is immune to jail or roleblock My role pm for First Backup states that the first time that a cop, jailer or empowerer dies, I take over that role. It doesn't explicitly say what kind of cop. So it's possible that backups aren't able to take over a rolecop. ASF claimed to take over jailer N3, which supports this interpretation. Obviously ASF could be lying scum, or scum backup. Did ASF claim their n3 target? Rex and toal claimed that their investigations failed last night. Actually, Rex's investigations have failed every night. 
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Feb 25, 2019 04:11
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Binus - probably town Max - maybe probably town Tired Moritz - I think maybe town Hum - true neutral Asf - chaotic neutral Xiw - lawful scum Toal - neutral scum Krex - literally impossible for me to read given n1 but I must assume is town
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Feb 25, 2019 06:52
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b-minus1 posted:Did ASF claim their n3 target? I haven't targeted anyone, db was killed n3, I did not functionally become jailer until d4, sorry if I was unclear.
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Feb 25, 2019 06:56
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Also ##vote Toalpaz Still happy with this vote and the TM one isn't going anywhere apparently.
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Feb 25, 2019 06:58
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##unvote no
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Feb 25, 2019 06:58
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Asf I need you to post some better reads
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Feb 25, 2019 07:00
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Somberbrero posted:Asf I need you to post some better reads Toal - I still don't entirely trust two cops, and they got town killed (sorta, ip got modkilled defending themselves badly, but toal was aiming for that). That said they were pretty consistently on AAI/IP from n1 onwards which lends credence to them actually investigating. That said they can't be a conventional insane cop because they said I'm town which is correct. Basically I don't think they can be an insane cop, they could have a situation where IP got framed, but I'm doubtful. KRex - I am curious why they can't seem to investigate anybody? Like that's my main issue with a Toal vote, Rex's cop claim is also pretty weak. They haven't tried to kill two town though. TM and Max - I have posted on them previously. Toalpaz posted:
Claiming secondary backup exposes the existence of primary backup indicating that town has an empowerer running around.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:19
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To clarify, toal wasn't aiming to get IP modkilled, they were aiming to get IP lunched.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:19
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I would appreciate it if you posted reads on everyone.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:20
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Xiw - I remain suspicious of, especially in light of the vote moving off them and onto town.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:21
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Hum, Somber and binus - honestly feel you guys are town.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:22
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A Sometimes Food posted:Hum, Somber and binus - honestly feel you guys are town. Expand on that
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Feb 25, 2019 07:24
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Somberbrero posted:Expand on that Those three just never twigged any suspicion on my part. It's a little hard to define a negative? I just have no real casing on Hum, Somber and binus. On binus the fact that they claimed the counterpart to my role that I knew existed leads me to trust them more. I suppose the fact both you and Hum are completely unaccounted for as far as actions and roles go after everyone else has claimed is a bit weird?
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Feb 25, 2019 07:34
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A Sometimes Food posted:Those three just never twigged any suspicion on my part. It's a little hard to define a negative? I just have no real casing on Hum, Somber and binus. On binus the fact that they claimed the counterpart to my role that I knew existed leads me to trust them more. What role do you think hum and I are?
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Somberbrero posted:What role do you think hum and I are? No idea really, all the roles I know are/were present because of my role are accounted for, so possibly some weird roles, maybe passive roles. Or my reads could be way off and you're both scum. I'm looking at the singular on role there and wondering if that's a clue though. Masons?
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