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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Rad-daddio posted:

Fun one liners for when you shoot up your workplace:

"I'm fired?! Nah, you're FIRED!"

"Here's a human resource for you!"

"While you're calling security to escort me out, you should also call facilities to mop up your brains." *cocks revolver*

"My performance was lacking last quarter!? Well, now my gun is lacking bullets that are in you're head!"

"I'd love to go to your meeting, but I'm having a hard time finding my business casual holster."

"CC this memo, you fuckers!"

"Guess who's out of mood stabilizers and just cleared the background check! THIS GUY!"

"You can forward my last paycheck to the gates of hell!"

"Remember when I said you'd all regret it if someone stole my lunch form the break room refrigerator again?!"

"Here's a fun morale building exercise I call, 'Hide-and-don't-get-shot'!"

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I realise it might be impossible to talk about this without mentioning politics but can people try or i'll just gas the thread

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

You can't gas this thread boss, my family's gotta post!

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf
Moridin’s comment about serfs got me thinking (lol). Anyone know of any good books on the history of rampage killings?

As far as I know actual old time serfs, who had a much tougher deal physically never killed their neighbors because their feudal lord or whatever was a dick to them. Seem like they were more inclined to band together and kill he lord than murder a bunch of random folk out of rage. Maybe their fill of random murder by burning witches and poo poo.

I have read that even the poorest of peasant back in the day had a much greater sense of community and support than people generally feel in the US today.

Captain Beans fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Feb 18, 2019

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Captain Beans posted:

Moridin’s comment about serfs got me thinking (lol). Anyone know of any good books on the history of rampage killings?

As far as I know actual old time serfs, who had a much tougher deal physically never killed their neighbors because their feudal lord or whatever was a dick to them. Seem like they were more inclined to band together and kill he lord than murder a bunch of random folk out of rage. Maybe their fill of random murder by burning witches and poo poo.

I have read that even the poorest of peasant back in the day had a much greater sense of community and support than people generally feel in the US today.

https://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Captain Beans posted:

I have read that even the poorest of peasant back in the day had a much greater sense of community and support than people generally feel in the US today.

It's very true that, in perhaps the greatest irony in history, our technological connectivity has actually shattered and atomized communities into hermetically sealed amplification chambers until our actual ability to engage in discourse will atrophy to the point that our only recourse is violent reeducation lol

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

The Protagonist posted:

It's very true that, in perhaps the greatest irony in history, our technological connectivity has actually shattered and atomized communities into hermetically sealed amplification chambers until our actual ability to engage in discourse will atrophy to the point that our only recourse is violent reeducation lol

That and also all alternative ideologies have been so thoroughly suppressed that the suffering people have literally no framework to place their dissatisfaction in, so they end up just exploding into individual violence instead of organizing or forming movements. Which is by design.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
202X Scene open, a converted vehicle charging station. Rusting petroleum tech can be seen in the background

:downs: Hey lester, ain't ya heard? Ya can't havun that truck on the road no more, t'wat with the environment bein' what it is n' all...

:bahgawd: The hell I can't, sez who?!

*gunfire erupts*

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Constantly forcing people to move every few years for work, the pervasive media campaigns against organized religion or any other form of communal identity, economic pressures to force two-income households to reduce the amount of time parents spend with their children, etc. Is all part of this, too.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

That and also all alternative ideologies have been so thoroughly suppressed that the suffering people have literally no framework to place their dissatisfaction in, so they end up just exploding into individual violence instead of organizing or forming movements. Which is by design.

It's not all doom n' gloom though, since the framework "Hey maybe the obscenely wealthy should pay a little back into society before we all die of hunger, preventable illness and a poisoned atmosphere?" is a pretty straightforward one that a lot of people seem to be finally coming around to.

Nicodemus Dumps
Jan 9, 2006

Just chillin' in the sink

The Protagonist posted:

It's not all doom n' gloom though, since the framework "Hey maybe the obscenely wealthy should pay a little back into society before we all die of hunger, preventable illness and a poisoned atmosphere?" is a pretty straightforward one that a lot of people seem to be finally coming around to.

Lol I'll believe those sentiments will get turned into an enforced domestic policy when I see it and not a moment sooner.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

The Protagonist posted:

It's not all doom n' gloom though, since the framework "Hey maybe the obscenely wealthy should pay a little back into society before we all die of hunger, preventable illness and a poisoned atmosphere?" is a pretty straightforward one that a lot of people seem to be finally coming around to.

What are you, some sort of hippie pinko dumbass? Socialism killed more people than Hitler maaaan. The free market is incontrovertible scientific fact.


This is the knee-jerk reaction of pretty much everyone over a certain age, the end result of decades of media control, social engineering, and a comprehensive routing of American academia. So these people end up going on lone wolf shooting sprees

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
You know, this might sound crazy, but you could actually engage with promoting those sentiments among what remains of your community in an effort to develop a movement that sees those desires turned into policy some bright day in the future, bolstered by a mass of people who refuse to be placated into thinking they can do nothing and refusing to be apathetic anymorahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Rad-daddio posted:

Fun one liners for when you shoot up your workplace:

"I'm fired?! Nah, you're FIRED!"

"Here's a human resource for you!"

"While you're calling security to escort me out, you should also call facilities to mop up your brains." *cocks revolver*

"My performance was lacking last quarter!? Well, now my gun is lacking bullets that are in you're head!"

"I'd love to go to your meeting, but I'm having a hard time finding my business casual holster."

"CC this memo, you fuckers!"

"Guess who's out of mood stabilizers and just cleared the background check! THIS GUY!"

"You can forward my last paycheck to the gates of hell!"

"Remember when I said you'd all regret it if someone stole my lunch form the break room refrigerator again?!"

"Here's a fun morale building exercise I call, 'Hide-and-don't-get-shot'!"

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Jose posted:

I realise it might be impossible to talk about this without mentioning politics but can people try or i'll just gas the thread

ban politics posters instead

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Confirmed that the shooter was a loyal employee of the company for 15 years but who was about to be fired

Victims:
Clayton Parks of Elgin, human resources manager

Trevor Wehner of DeKalb, human resources intern and Northern Illinois University student

Russell Beyer of Yorkville, mold operator

Vicente Juarez of Oswego, stockroom attendant and forklift operator

Josh Pinkard of Oswego, plant manager

Rip vicente. Everyone else probably was a prick
e: also russ sorry russ

SniperWoreConverse fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Feb 18, 2019

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

I would have shot him with my concealed carry pistol and thus have not been shot myself.



lmao, what kind of pussy needs a gun to stop a shooting?

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Looks interesting, will check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.

GORILLA BASTARD
Jun 20, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jose posted:

I realise it might be impossible to talk about this without mentioning politics but can people try or i'll just gas the thread

Then let us argue the merits of the superiority of the Sig Sauer MPX 9mm over the CMMG Banshee 9mm.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


More Wayne's world, please. I would but can't Photoshop on a phone.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Captain Beans posted:

Moridin’s comment about serfs got me thinking (lol). Anyone know of any good books on the history of rampage killings?

As far as I know actual old time serfs, who had a much tougher deal physically never killed their neighbors because their feudal lord or whatever was a dick to them. Seem like they were more inclined to band together and kill he lord than murder a bunch of random folk out of rage. Maybe their fill of random murder by burning witches and poo poo.

I have read that even the poorest of peasant back in the day had a much greater sense of community and support than people generally feel in the US today.

homicide rates were 100 times higher in 1600 than in 2000 every european country that existed in 1600. the source is just on england but google will spit up similar papers about any country you care to check. and as the notes on the first page point out even that is based upon indictment and gaol records that have survived since 1600; deaths that didn't result in an indictment aren't counted because motherfuckers died all the time in 1600 and you can't say for sure it was a murder just because joseph bigglesly the town miller wrote in a halfway-illiterate letter to his brother the next village over that the entire thing was suspicious. these figures include spree killers if you take the USA's ostensible murder rate in 1600 to be comparable to its home country's (when realistically it was probably higher because it was all frontier colonies).

so basically the idea that medieval serfs never killed their neighbors is nonsense - historically motherfuckers have killed each other pretty routinely for most of history and that only started to dip off seriously in the last 100 years or so.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Feb 18, 2019

Archives
Nov 23, 2008

Coolguye posted:

homicide rates were 100 times higher in 1600 than in 2000 every european country that existed in 1600. the source is just on england but google will spit up similar papers about any country you care to check. and as the notes on the first page point out even that is based upon indictment and gaol records that have survived since 1600; deaths that didn't result in an indictment aren't counted because motherfuckers died all the time in 1600 and you can't say for sure it was a murder just because joseph bigglesly the town miller wrote in a halfway-illiterate letter to his brother the next village over that the entire thing was suspicious. these figures include spree killers if you take the USA's ostensible murder rate in 1600 to be comparable to its home country's (when realistically it was probably higher because it was all frontier colonies).

so basically the idea that medieval serfs never killed their neighbors is nonsense - historically motherfuckers have killed each other pretty routinely for most of history and that only started to dip off seriously in the last 100 years or so.

Lmbo peaceful medieval times. Back then as long as nobody saw you you could probably ice as many people as you wanted. Not like they had cctv or anything lol.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
excuse me but turning america into fortnite is cool

*does the floss dance*

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Captain Beans posted:

Moridin’s comment about serfs got me thinking (lol). Anyone know of any good books on the history of rampage killings?

As far as I know actual old time serfs, who had a much tougher deal physically never killed their neighbors because their feudal lord or whatever was a dick to them. Seem like they were more inclined to band together and kill he lord than murder a bunch of random folk out of rage. Maybe their fill of random murder by burning witches and poo poo.

I have read that even the poorest of peasant back in the day had a much greater sense of community and support than people generally feel in the US today.

see the thing is the lord had guys with bows and cavalry and that's a really bad time

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Archives posted:

Lmbo peaceful medieval times. Back then as long as nobody saw you you could probably ice as many people as you wanted. Not like they had cctv or anything lol.

I would watch the poo poo out of a medieval parody of cops.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Coolguye posted:

homicide rates were 100 times higher in 1600 than in 2000 every european country that existed in 1600. the source is just on england but google will spit up similar papers about any country you care to check. and as the notes on the first page point out even that is based upon indictment and gaol records that have survived since 1600; deaths that didn't result in an indictment aren't counted because motherfuckers died all the time in 1600 and you can't say for sure it was a murder just because joseph bigglesly the town miller wrote in a halfway-illiterate letter to his brother the next village over that the entire thing was suspicious. these figures include spree killers if you take the USA's ostensible murder rate in 1600 to be comparable to its home country's (when realistically it was probably higher because it was all frontier colonies).

so basically the idea that medieval serfs never killed their neighbors is nonsense - historically motherfuckers have killed each other pretty routinely for most of history and that only started to dip off seriously in the last 100 years or so.

Certainly I agree that medieval serfs killed people all the time, but I expected it to be over things like stealing their poo poo, your neighbor hosed your wife, gave you a poo poo deal on your crops, you want to gently caress his wife, you think they are a secret cathar, ect. Not because you decide to take your rage out on whoever you can get your hands on nearby.

very interesting that they have data on spree killings for way back then, gonna have to read some of that source, no question that overall crime and homicides are down from the 'good old days'

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1097608706085113856?s=19

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017
So, one of the victims was a person who was doing an HR internship? I mean, do they get paid for that at least? I can understand internships for competitive, fun and high demand jobs but why would you need to do an internship to be the equivalent of a company hall monitor?

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Rad-daddio posted:

So, one of the victims was a person who was doing an HR internship? I mean, do they get paid for that at least? I can understand internships for competitive, fun and high demand jobs but why would you need to do an internship to be the equivalent of a company hall monitor?

because being a young person and trying to get a job in an office is a miserable demeaning experience nowadays

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Caesar Saladin posted:

because being a young person and trying to get a job in an office is a miserable demeaning experience nowadays

gently caress

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
i can feel it all coming apart at the seams

dehumanize yourself and face to bulletshed

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Coolguye posted:

homicide rates were 100 times higher in 1600 than in 2000 every european country that existed in 1600. the source is just on england but google will spit up similar papers about any country you care to check. and as the notes on the first page point out even that is based upon indictment and gaol records that have survived since 1600; deaths that didn't result in an indictment aren't counted because motherfuckers died all the time in 1600 and you can't say for sure it was a murder just because joseph bigglesly the town miller wrote in a halfway-illiterate letter to his brother the next village over that the entire thing was suspicious. these figures include spree killers if you take the USA's ostensible murder rate in 1600 to be comparable to its home country's (when realistically it was probably higher because it was all frontier colonies).

so basically the idea that medieval serfs never killed their neighbors is nonsense - historically motherfuckers have killed each other pretty routinely for most of history and that only started to dip off seriously in the last 100 years or so.



Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
lol this thread is garbage

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Peter Daou Bundy posted:

lol this thread is garbage

except for, uh, the good Wayne's works shops, I agree

red sampson
Oct 7, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
I'm sorry mentally ill people use guns and modified weapons to inflict the most damage on people.

it's not guns that are the problem, its the lack of farmers.

yes farmers, the more farming there is in your country, the less mass shootings occur.

y'all need more farmers.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Captain Beans posted:

Not because you decide to take your rage out on whoever you can get your hands on nearby.

That's when it's time for a good ol fashioned pogrom

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

red sampson posted:

I'm sorry mentally ill people use guns and modified weapons to inflict the most damage on people.

it's not guns that are the problem, its the lack of farmers.

yes farmers, the more farming there is in your country, the less mass shootings occur.

y'all need more farmers.

okay i hear you, but listen, what if we replaced all the farmers with robots and slaves instead?

red sampson
Oct 7, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

The Protagonist posted:

okay i hear you, but listen, what if we replaced all the farmers with robots and slaves instead?

well you see the percentage of farmers to robots is very slim

but i see the angle.

if farmer robots gave everyone a salad a day, tax free you might be on to something.

lack of vitamins is a curse to all of us

Archives
Nov 23, 2008

Captain Beans posted:

Certainly I agree that medieval serfs killed people all the time, but I expected it to be over things like stealing their poo poo, your neighbor hosed your wife, gave you a poo poo deal on your crops, you want to gently caress his wife, you think they are a secret cathar, ect. Not because you decide to take your rage out on whoever you can get your hands on nearby.

very interesting that they have data on spree killings for way back then, gonna have to read some of that source, no question that overall crime and homicides are down from the 'good old days'

If they wanted to let off some steam i assume they just beat the crap out of their women. Which, incidentally(?) this guy also enjoyed doing.

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red sampson
Oct 7, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSkboTTTmpg

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