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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


punk rebel ecks posted:

I've heard that Jessica Jones is good. But the image of the show just comes across as super tryhard.

The first season is ok mainly because it has a good villain. After that it goes downhill pretty fast though

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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Observe and Report was one of my favorite theater experiences of all time. the crowd must have either been expecting a light hearted stoner comedy or had gotten confused and thought they were seeing Paul Blart because I’ve never seen an entire audience so unsure whether to laugh or not. Personally I found it hilarious

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Frog Act posted:

so I have a slightly weird movie recommendation request: my favorite movie ever is Repo Man. I love stuff like Assault on Precinct 13, They Live, Death Wish, The Warriors, Escape from NY, etc and to a slightly lesser extent, Soylent Green and Omega Man. basically things from the 70's/80's that have synthesizer heavy soundtracks and an aesthetic focus on urban decay in the late 20th century, particularly in big urban areas. like, I watched Death Wish II last night (objectively a horrible movie that Ebert correctly gave 0 stars for lacking both stylistic merit and being "morally repulsive") and remembered why I liked it despite that stuff - the street scenes of urban decay in LA, where Kersey wanders around hunting the inexplicably multiracial rape gang of 80s syle punks.

can anyone think of anything else in this genre? specifically stuff with lots of or at least a few compelling scenes like the one from Repo Man when Otto learns he won't be able to go to college and takes a long walk around lovely neighborhoods kicking a can, or the original Death Wish street scenes? I just have this deep affection for depictions of decay and social unease in this period and things like The Warriors or the beginning of Romero's Day of the Dead where the police are heading to the slums/the news reporters are working.

i've seen lots of stuff from this era but it also seems as though the most compelling scenes of this type are often buried in otherwise lovely films so I'm wondering if anyone else digs this particular thing

You've probably seen all of these but:

Taxi Driver, Predator 2, Robocop, and most of the Dirty Harry movies.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Frog Act posted:

Thanks! These are all new to me except the Carpenter stuff, I’ll check these out!

I’ve also never actually seen the Dirty Harry movies, for some reason I thought they were more a straight up action thing and less of a weird gritty urban thing than I was describing. Come to think of it though, all I really know about the series is the depiction of him in the Simpsons as someone who just shoot hippies.

I’ll definitely check those out too then. Also a good reminder to watch taxi driver which I haven’t seen in a decade at least

Dirty Harry is basically just Death Wish if the main character was a cop.

edit: The thesis of the movie is that the current justice/legal system is completely spineless and incapable of standing up to the tidal wave of urban crime, so you need Man With Gun to come in and solve things. It's very much a product of it's time and a weird movie to watch now but it very has that kind of over-the-top urban grittiness that you're looking for.

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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I watched Brawl in Cellblock 99 on Amazon. It starts off as a pretty low-key story about a guy just trying to make his way through his lovely life then makes a hard left into Grindhouse territory in the second-half, which was unfortunate because I was digging it until then.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I can only hope that when I too am gunned down, it will not have been in vain. That someone, somewhere, will use my grisly death to score points in an argument about a TV show.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Timby posted:

It still baffles me that those are the top-watched shows on Netflix.

For some reason Friends and The Office have crossed the generational threshold and are incredibly popular among teenagers right now.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Mammal Sauce posted:

Probably an odd question, but does anyone know of any movies on Hulu, Prime, or Netflix with abrupt or strange tonal shifts? Even better if it veers into thriller or horror territory.

Something like if Us started without the backstory and instead with the drive to the cabin and the first 30 minutes was filled with fun family time at the beach, etc. and then the doppelgangers show up out of nowhere and went off the rails.

Serenity (the one with Matthew McConaughey) is on Prime. Watch it blind with as little information as possible.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I'm fine with contemplative movies, and I actually liked Silence a lot, but the Irishman just feels weirdly devoid of any pathos or tension, maybe because the cast and timeframe are so sprawling that it's hard to feel attached to anyone but De Niro and Pacino.

For example, a ton of people get shot in the head in this movie, but the only one that you care about is Jimmy Hoffa. The rest are randos who had only been introduced moments before. Meanwhile, you know De Niro lives because you see him as an old man from the first scene, and you know Pacino is gonna eat it because he's Jimmy Hoffa. I dunno, if De Niro and Pacino are the heart of the movie, then why do we spend half the movie on side tangents that hardly matter and barely register emotionally?

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Every single crime film has the overreach and then the fall, it's pretty standard. I think that the "punishment" that the mob guys get is so disconnected from the Hoffa situation that its hard to feel like just desserts. Like if after the murder we had a couple scenes of them increasingly hounded, nervous, and harried by the law coming down on them meanwhile De Niro is basically an emotional wreck then it would have felt earned. Instead it literally goes from Hoffa's death to a montage of everyone getting arrested on unrelated charges and then De Niro hanging out with his buddies in prison.

The closest thing I'd compare it to is The Godfather movies but inferior in every way. Like compare Fredo's death with Hoffa's. It's no contest in my opinion.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Sir Kodiak posted:

Right. What’s not standard is the nature of Frank Sheeran’s fall. If it were a movie about people getting their worldly comeuppance—all those arrests you mention—it would be inferior to any number of mob movies. But it’s not about that.

It's not really that unique of an ending, Godfather III ends pretty much exactly the same way - with the main character old, unloved, and full of regrets - but the journey there is much more entertaining.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I watched the movie Prospect on hulu. It's about a low budget sci-fi movie about a father-daughter team that land on a dangerous gold-rush world to try and make it rich. It's got a really cool atmosphere and uses a clunky 70's tech aesthetic similar to what you'd see in Alien. Anyway, it's pretty gritty and really more of a space western than a sci-fi movie. Also it has Pedro Pascal in it. Would recommend.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Speaking of Sci-Fi - I need a new show to stream in the background while I paint miniatures. Any recommendations? It should be something that doesn't require too much attention, and preferably has a ton of episodes. I've worked my way through every season of Star Trek and Stargate.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Cool, I'll give it a shot.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


beanieson posted:

Anybody check out Too Old to Die Young?

Rewatched some of Refn’s stuff recently and had no idea he just put out this Amazon series, it’s like buried even when you go to their ‘original series’ list.

It's insanely up it's own rear end and like 3x longer than it should be. I don't regret watching it all, but I'm glad I was painting miniatures while it was playing. There is no way I would have had the patience to finish it if I was giving it my full attention.

It's got a few great moments though.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Green Room and Blue Ruin were so good that I walked into Hold the Dark with sky-high expectations and was badly disappointed.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Wind River has a similar aesthetic, and an equally insane scene, but is a much better movie overall.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


C2C - 2.0 posted:

Probably already discussed upthread, but I just watched the first episode of Too Old To Die Young on Amazon Prime. I really, really dig Refn's aesthetic, even though it's kind of one-note. But goddamn do some of those scenes just draaaaaaggggg. Still gonna' finish it up though; I love gangster poo poo like that & Refn just wallows in it.

I imagine its probably unbearable if you're just sitting there watching it, but it works pretty well for something to put on while you do something else. I painted miniatures while watching it and could look up every so now and then and see whats going on, then paint during the 3 minutes of silence between each line.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Big Mean Jerk posted:

I can’t speak for Precision, but when I saw it I was in a little single-screen theater that didn’t have a working heater that day, so I was huddled up in a coat that wasn’t heavy enough to be totally warm and that whole month I had been going through Some poo poo. I don’t think I’ve ever related to a movie more in my entire life. So yeah, I totally get watching that movie as a pick-me-up.

This is me, but with Blade Runner. It's always comforting for me to put it on and experience the perfect distillation of the decay and alienation of our existence, all wrapped up in a two hour sensory feast.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


nate fisher posted:

Since season 3 is coming out, I want to know if Future Man season 2 got better as it went? I loved season 1 (top 10 show that year), but I didn't make it past the first few episodes of season 2. It was like they forgot what made season 1 fun.

Season 2 starts kind of slow but gets weirder and funnier as it goes. The end of season 2 is top tier Future Man stuff.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


nate fisher posted:

Hmmm...now the real question becomes can I trust someone with a SAMCRO gang tag?

you're already asking advice from goons, its probably too late to have standards

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


david_a posted:

Apparently I had never seen all of Dirty Harry before because a lot of it was new to me. What an insanely fascist movie. I had rewatched The Naked Gun last week so a lot of the DH scenes were hard to even take seriously.

Yeah, it's pretty weird now to watch Dirty Harry in a post-War on Drugs era. It's like something from another dimension.

Same with West Wing now - feels like it was sent straight from the Elemental Plane of Naivete

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


married but discreet posted:

rest felt like dollar store Coen imitation.

Can directors imitate themselves?

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


veni veni veni posted:

Yeah Ozark is pretty drat good but saying it’s better than Breaking Bad is just bonkers to me.

Yeah seriously. Breaking Bad had half a dozen characters developed and interesting enough that they could have their own spin-off and it would stand up.

Ozark's bench of supporting characters is far weaker and I don't think Marty and Wendy even come close to Walt and Jesse.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Medullah posted:

Counterpoint, Ruth.

Her and Helen are really the only stand-out supporting characters. Everyone else (which isn't that many considering the life-span of most Ozark side characters is one season) is pretty meh.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Raskolnikov2089 posted:

It's *extremely* trite, rehashing military tropes in the most boring, unoriginal ways, and I love every minute of it anyway. I wish it had a sequel. I just enjoy military vs alien milporn in whatever form, it's why I saw every transformers movie.

I think it's because I was obsessed with war of the worlds as a kid. The Thunderchild chapter where the Ironclad fought the martian tripods still thrills me to no end.

100% agree. Weirdly, just making the aliens fight conventionally but slightly better than us was an interesting dynamic since usually in these types of movies the aliens are portrayed as being so far beyond our level of technology that the only way to fight them is to use One Weird Trick That Aliens Hate to collectively destroy them in one fell swoop.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006



This is the most white thing possible. A tweet about Hamilton being posted on Disney+ reported by NPR.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Deadite posted:

Since we’re talking about missing scenes in shows, is there anywhere in the US that is streaming the European version of Vikings? It seems strange that streaming services would only have the censored version of the show available, but that’s all I can find

What did they censor out in the US version?

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


10 Beers posted:

Just started watching The Great and I'm digging it a lot.

I noticed another show on Hulu, how is Futureman?

IMO it's one of the funniest shows I've seen in the last couple years.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Field Mousepad posted:

I mean it didn't blow my mind or anything but it's a pretty solid action flick. It's got like 13% on rotten tomatoes and that is some bullshit.

Well the binary nature of sorting every review into fresh or not tends to skew rotten tomatoes scores to the extreme ends. I find metacritic’s system to be more informative for me because I’m willing to watch just about anything if there are any redeeming qualities

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Can someone sell me on Letterkenny? I've seen about a billion ads for it but still have no idea what the show is even about.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Inspector 34 posted:

HaCF intro is awesome. I've been rewatching Black Sails the last week or so and to that intro kicks rear end too, even my wife thought so when she walked in one time.

Bear McCreary owns and the making of the Black Sails intro is pretty interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmzzrU3gR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXQ0z9NCl8

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Mr. Toodles posted:

The Last Days of American Crime is a dumpster fire of a film. It was way too long, completely disjointed, just unbelievably bad all around. I don't know enough about film theory to dissect it properly, but seriously, the problems are seemingly too numerous to list. What a waste of Sharlto Copley.

Tried to watch it tonight and couldn’t make it more than 15 minutes before I turned it off.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Decided to watch Cold Mountain because I've never seen it and I feel like ACW movies be hard to find on streaming for the next little stretch.

What the gently caress is going on with this movie? Some real weird casting choices - almost exclusively non-American actors, none of which can carry a Southern accent worth a drat. Nicole Kidman tries and it's pretty painful. Jude Law just lowers his voice and grunts his way through the movie, hoping no one will notice his lack of accent. Philip Seymour Hoffman's is somehow the worst of all, wandering regularly over into faux-British accent territory.

The two romantic leads, Nicole Kidman and Jude Law, seem to have actual negative chemistry. It's also like 2.5 hours long, at least 40 minutes of which are just scenes of Nicole Kidman being lovely at farming for comic relief, I guess?

There is also a backflipping albino bad guy.

I'll at least give them credit for making Battle of the Crater at the beginning properly nightmarish, but that's really the only nice thing I can find to say about it.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


chitoryu12 posted:

I never watched American Gods after the first season. How bad is it?

It's like they had two episodes worth of content and tried to stretch it into 10 by adding exceptionally boring side-plots.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Does Seinfeld hold up to a re-watch? I need a mindless show I can put on while I work on things.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


DeimosRising posted:

Those movies are both...very good. As is Blade Runner. And A Scanner Darkly. Even Screamers and Paycheck have their charms. PKD has a pretty good adaptation record

Screamers is one of those movies I rented from blockbuster in the 90's as a kid that was so weird that I spent the next 20 years wondering if it was a real movie or if I'd dreamed it.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Tagichatn posted:

Man, Ad Astra was boring as hell. I don't even know why, it had scenes that were pretty actiony but it just never held my interest. I have no idea why it has such a high score on rotten tomatoes.

I had the same reaction. I think its because all the characters are so flat and robotic that its hard to care what happens to any of them.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


I don’t understand why they didn’t just use youll never leave Harlan alive, since they play it in a bunch of episodes

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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


veni veni veni posted:

Is that Rome HBO show still worth watching? I remember it having a lot of buzz back in the day but haven’t heard anyone bring it up in years. Watched Gladiator for the first time in years last weekend and wouldn’t mind some more of that.

Season 2 has some problems since they had to wrap up the series unexpectedly, but it's still one of my favorite shows of all time. Great cast, great costumes, great sets.

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