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Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Xaris posted:

also we can't afford kids bc 30+ yrs of wage stagnation, college & housing being turned into investment and speculation commodities, and boombers loving up everything.

if we're being honest, it's probably 20% not wanting kids to die in global warming corpofacism wars, and 80% just not being able to afford it.

lol you don't care about your hypothetical children very much

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Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

General Dog posted:

Everyone ITT, faced with the prospect of living in an increasingly unpleasant world, has chosen (so far) to continue to exist, so it's not like you'd be a hypocrite to have kids.

poo poo I'm already here anyway and it is not as though I had a choice to be born.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007


:2bong:

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Rime posted:

Climate change isn't the threat, Total Biosphere Collapse is. I tried to have the D&D thread title changed to that for two iterations.

IMO "climate change" is too narrow a threat and gives people the comfortable illusion that if we just keep temperatures low we can continue the business of industrial society as usual. When in reality doing so will still destroy everything beautiful and worth living for on this planet.

You are right.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Shima Honnou posted:

I have prepared for climate change my whole life, by ensuring I never had aspirations or illusions of a future or anything to look forward to. I'm ready, are you??

Me too actually.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Trainee PornStar posted:

For me it was time.. I can only keep panicking for so long & after a while it just becomes a bit of a numb feeling in the background, kinda like you know your hosed long term but meh!...

Also weed :)

Yep!

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Bullfrog posted:

Not to turn this into an E/N thread, but I've been having a lot of anxiety about death lately, and I wonder if knowing all this about climate change is making it worse.

I'm counting on this relationship of fear to change as time goes on

Yes of course it is you're discovering new and exciting ways that you could die. When you are dead you won't care anymore so enjoy what you can while you are here.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

dream9!bed!! posted:

So your theory is that they'll actually like living under fascist and participating in resource wars?

Again, it's not that not having a kid will save the planet. It's about taking a soul that exists in the ether and experiences no pain, and placing them in the Thunderdome for very bad, selfish reasons

Point to your soul.

you can't there is no soul except the music

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Deserve is a concept created by humans and does not in reality exist.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:

life. its literally all we have. but is it any good?


e: I love the temperate rainforest of the pacific northwest so much. So much.

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 19:43 on Mar 28, 2019

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=namndS6fvEs

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

yeah we sure have come a long way in the wrong direction.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Feranon posted:

lmao this owns, goons using a fatalist circlejerk as a poor substitute for therapy bc they probably cannot afford therapy

i can be selfish af so if you tell me it's all hopeless i'm just gonna wish i had a ton of money so i could travel everywhere i wanna go and consume whatever i wanna consume, and have a bitchin house

I saw a psychiatrist for three years before we got to a point that was like "yeah that poo poo in your life is hosed up and there isn't much I can do for you."

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Addamere posted:

lol

decorum gonna kill the human race

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

here thread have a song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dPKfxRhk0

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

CODChimera posted:

I seriously have no idea what I should be doing in response to all of this anymore.

I've had that feeling, increasing in intensity since the 2000 US presidential election.

Always more, always worse.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

net work error posted:

Happy Earth Day enjoy it while there still is one!

:toot:

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

redleader posted:

we're so hosed lol

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007


India reels as summer temperatures touch 50C

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007


I think that is here - https://www.google.com/maps/search/Bhalswa+Dumping+Ground/@28.7399285,77.1562191,857m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1?hl=en

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

StabbinHobo posted:

scientists: everything is dying
americans: how do i speculate on real estate with this?

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

There are forms of socialism that are not communism. :monocle:

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

I feel like a kid lost in a large store that happens to be on fire.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Learn to fix useful things and learn to make useful things.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

I think that we only get one chance at life and nearly any kind of being alive is preferable to being dead. Also I was born into a certain level of inescapable discomfort so my tolerance may be biased.

We are in general stronger than we think we are.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Zeno-25 posted:

Just don't die sober and you're good

Wisdom

Oxxidation posted:

if people knew the story of their own lives how many would then elect to live them

redleader posted:

personally i'd be ok with never having existed in the first place given, you know, the world as has been, is, and will be

I think those things sometimes but then at the same time I wouldn't be who I am if not for my experiences.

e: for instance I may have turned into a more optimistic person if I had an easier life and who wants that pfft

Ill Peripheral posted:

Whoah whooah now that's the wrong attitude for this thread, bub!

Hey I didn't say anything arguing we may not be doomed, just that we can make of that what we want.

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 03:02 on Jun 27, 2019

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Torpor posted:

we have spent hundreds of years and the output of billions of people turning a fertile planet -the only planet we know capable of sustaining any life whatsoever- into a roach motel.

edit: so I’m a way I guess your right

edit2: edited for clarification

I meant strength to endure but you're not wrong.

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 03:03 on Jun 27, 2019

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

hope floats

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

My pet chickens and marijuana are mostly what give me the motivation to get out of bed in the morning.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

StabbinHobo posted:

i wonder how long i could survive on a diet of entirely eggs and weed

add a vegetable garden and give what you can't eat to the chickens

it's a cool feeling to know healthier, happier chickens means better eggs

and being doomed makes it easier to get used to being so close to the means of production i.e. eggs come from the chickens butt

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 17:16 on Jun 27, 2019

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

AceOfFlames posted:

It's not a roast if it's true.

For you specifically stop worrying so much and be blissfully ignorant if that is what it takes. Whatever dude just chill out a little.

i am not a doctor

Shifty Nipples has issued a correction as of 19:39 on Jun 27, 2019

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

AceOfFlames posted:

I don't. Still I'm looking into options.

On an unrelated subject how the hell do people still concentrate on their jobs? What's bizarre is that I still have these feelings that I should have done something more "important" at 31 rather than still being at junior software engineer level at some small company but it all just sounds so meaningless. I don't think there's anything I enjoy for its own sake. I actively avoid getting more responsibility because it's just more failure. All I care about is results. What drives people to play a game they already lost?

I was born with a permanent physical disability so I don't have a job, you are the only person who has to live your life so it only needs to be important to you. Finally, life is the game that nobody wins.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

One of the things that is concerning to me is that there are not more "the end is nigh" folks out on the streets.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

For the sake of clarity this is what I meant

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

I remember like twenty years ago, perhaps longer, I read that extracting oil from tar sands and oil shale was so inefficient that if we reached a point when we were actually doing that it probably meant poo poo was hosed and we were doomed.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Wakko posted:

some viruses kill their hosts, it's not because they're evil, it's just what they've evolved to do

it's real weird to moralize over it when you can just appreciate the beauty and hilarity of it

yeah it frustrates me that people cling so hard to good/evil as though there is some universal morality or something.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

we were smart enough to start a fire but too dumb to know when to put it out

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

lol that it's "too hard" to help people so instead they are exploited/destroyed

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Rime posted:

Cool cool. At the age of eight I was watching my rail thin mother sob because we'd already been eating rice for two months and the incoming neocon government had just cut our assistance even further, leaving her unsure how we'd survive the winter without either starving or freezing to death. I was wearing snow boots two sizes too small.

Is it better or worse to have experienced such dire poverty in a country widely portrayed as a socialist paradise, rather than somewhere like Somalia where I would never have seen anything else? To grow up surrounded by such plenty, to never taste it, and in a society which considers you disposable garbage?

My ancestors just rolled from one diaspora, clearance, and unrecognized western genocide to the next. Super fun. Really great history.

All I know is that I sure as gently caress didn't create this problem. rear end in a top hat.

:thunk:

It seems like you are taking for granted the institutions available to you which were likely not present in war torn Somalia. I'm not trying to take sides here, just sayin'.

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Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

want not to want

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