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Like gravity acting on a cannonball, all threads inevitably revert back to food chat. So, when society breaks down as climate change gets worse, and the rich start gunning down everyone else- is human meat a nutritionally balanced diet? I mean, it stands to reason, but maybe you’d still need a multivitamin?
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 00:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 14:20 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:While technically full of all the nutrients you need per definition, do remember that some vitamins et al doesn't survive the cooking process, and breaks down or transmutes by the time it's in your stomach. Moreover, this foodstuff is also per definition full of the very select disease vectors that are active on humans. Hmmmm, drat good points. Leaded gas is the gift that keeps on giving.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 05:48 |
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Pontius Pilate posted:I’m sure most people in this thread are aware, but, just in case, the same guy who invented leaded gasoline also invented CFCs: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr. A strong contender for Which One Person Would You Kill If You Could Time Travel? He also drank leaded gas on stage to prove how safe it was, then spent months getting secret chelation therapy in Europe for the terrible lead poisoning he gave himself. A huge greedy piece of poo poo on every level.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 08:18 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:Pure cannibal diet would get you scurvy since humans lack Vitamin C. Well poo poo, that's actually a thing. Kinda cool in the context of the Franklin Expedition, they basically had no way to replenish their Vitamin C beyond a certain point. Lessons learned: if you're gonna be a cannibal, bring some OJ or a lemon marinade.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 10:10 |
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Gnoman posted:A small country between two large ones rarely has the option of "sitting out" when the two big countries (or, for that matter, one of the two) decide they're going to have a war. This is.especially true when the small country is on a perfect route for an attacker - either the side playing offense will invade to get that route, or the defender will seize your country to secure that flank. See: Kingdom of Armenia getting ripped apart again and again by the romans, persians, parthians, muslims, turks, etc. In practice, the neutrality of Belgium was always conditional. If they had allied with Germany and sent in their army to fight French forts alongside the Germans, Britain + France would’ve cried perfidy, and invaded and occupied Belgium. The Belgians never had any agency in such a conflict, they were never allowed a free and independent choice. We tend to view the German invasion as a Terrible Transgression because the losers did it, instead of a Necessary Lesser Evil done by the victors (like the starvation blockade).
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 19:22 |
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It’s basically the same power relationship as when the US overthrows a government, then allows the people to create a new and democratic government... as long as it’s not Socialist. If the new president tries to nationalize the oil or lithium supplies and cut out ‘the free market’, they get assassinated and Mr. Yes-Man Dictator just happens to end up in power. It’s “Free Choice! (as Long as You Don’t Piss Us Off)”, no matter what’s written on a scrap of paper somewhere. All that does is legitimize what the Great Powers were already going to do.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 19:29 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is some weirdly hostile posting towards Xiahou Dun. Yeah, it’s pretty offputting. If pedantry is a sin, half the posters ITT are veritable monsters. Vincent Van Goatse posted:Hey, do us savage inferiors all a favor: bend over, put your hands on your knees, and gently caress off.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2020 06:56 |
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Don Gato posted:In Death of Stalin they actually didn't have Jason Isaacs wearing all the medals and awards Zhukov actually had because everyone involved in production took one look at the actual Zhukov and decided it looked too unrealistic. lmao that’s incredible.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2020 06:56 |
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The Lone Badger posted:Why does a battleship have AA guns at all? I thought a battleship's job was to carry as many fuckhueg guns as physically possible and leave all the small-gun stuff to its escorts? Because if you get hit with a huge wave of aircraft with bombs, your escorts might be separated from you, or busy dying, right when you need AA the most. Also, when aircraft get close to your ship (where they’re usually most dangerous) they might be far from your escorts but very close to you. Late-war US battleships had dozens or hundreds of AA guns, and they still sank when hit by concentrated waves of aircraft. Early-war ships with a handful of (basically bolt-action) AA guns? They were sitting ducks. And all it takes is one lucky bomb to gently caress your rudder, or start a fire, and that might be the beginning of the end for your ship.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 09:11 |
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Argas posted:I imagine Fly Mojo meant more that even with late-war refits, air attacks were still a threat to battleships. It's not like they made the battleships immune to torpedoes or bombs by slapping more armor on, they just made them far more capable of shooting down planes. Yeah I meant more that you can’t 100% prevent air attack, even with a fuckload of AA, and with less, you’re going to struggle to fend off a fraction of them. The US not losing more ships to planes/kamikazes is more due to the Japanese airforce being decimated by that point in the war, not because good AA or tons of escorts makes you invulnerable.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 21:55 |
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Fangz posted:What about surrendering What if we just keep shoveling starving conscripts into the guns of the americans? Once they hit their pre-set kill limits they’ll shut down. (just don’t tell the IJN, those fuckers are the true enemy)
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 22:44 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:it was so cool and is still on display with a functional .50 on top somewhere. hmmm, you might want to locate that.
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2020 22:07 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:You're mistaken and are spouting lies. Can we get one free answer: is Panda Express real Chinese food?
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2020 05:07 |
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Cessna posted:Jack played a lot of WWII GPW/Russian Front miniatures games. At the time his game of choice was Command Decision. He wasn't afraid to let his biases be known. Bash the fash
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 06:29 |
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Tias posted:It wasn't even the food itself, but the logistical machine behind the food. Soviet army butcheries and kitchens often didn't have running water and lavatories close by the prep areas. Add to this the fact that corruption was rampant and stuff like butter and eggs magically disappeared before it got to the conscripts, and you get a sense of how bad army food was. Bread contained grit and soup has weird gristle and bone parts instead of meat - and that was if you didn't get sick. Some outbreaks of poisoning and disease incapacitated hundreds of soldiers at a time. I was just listening to the Lions Led by Donkeys series about the Napoleonic invasion of Russia, and conditions for conscripts in the 18th century Russian imperial army were somehow even worse. Bad enough that it makes conditions for a soviet army conscript seem positively merciful by comparison. Maybe they fudged some of the details, they're not world-class historians or anything, but it's still pretty insane: - Conscription lasted for ~25 years, and you had a ~10% chance of surviving your full term of service. - Even if you did survive, the Army treated you like a reservist... and would call you back into service if things got dire. - Before entering the army your friends and family would hold a funeral for you (that you would attend!) and burn objects that reminded them of you, because your odds of surviving and coming back were so poor. - The same violent hazing that was typical during later Soviet times, same liberal use of execution and physical punishment to maintain discipline. - If you had children when you got conscripted, they got put into orphanages (since state policy was that a single mom was an unfit mom). Girls would go into regular nightmarish orphanages, boys would go into special military orphanages, where they'd be raised to be future NCOs in the Russian army and ~50% of them would die. So yes, 20+ years into your nightmarish conscription, your own son might be the NCO beating the dogshit out of you for an infraction. - Plus, all of the the usual fun times for a big undersupplied army in this period - not enough guns, not enough bullets, not enough food. It's absolutely wild.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 17:31 |
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bewbies posted:IMAGINE THAT For sure, but I feel like it’s somehow worse when it’s some poor Russian bastard in his 40s or 50s, who barely survived his first 25 years in the army, who lost his kids and got to sit through his own funeral the first time, getting a letter that says “yo peasant, Napoleon just invaded, you’re ordered to rejoin the army!” : cyka blyat, time for second funeral.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 20:01 |
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Kevin DuBrow posted:
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2020 06:18 |
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Taerkar posted:For meritorious achievements in journalism?
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 04:58 |
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SerCypher posted:I'd think of it less as a battle and more as several related battles all going on at the same time along a front. Military tactics were also not very sophisticated once you got to large numbers either. Most battles of the period seem to boil down to "Tell the infantry to do X and the Cavalry to do Y". Or sub-commanders in charge of each wing of the battle, possibly with a reserve. It’s not one man trying to maneuver 150,000, it’s three generals commanding 50,000-man armies and working in tandem. It’s also hilarious how Alexander beat Darius’ unstoppable army- no complicated pincer move or double envelopment, just charge Darius directly with your elite troops, and make him flee for his life or die in his chariot.
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# ¿ May 7, 2020 00:43 |
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PittTheElder posted:Like with tanks, I can't imagine they're ever intended to operate truly independently. You'd progress slowly, possibly even carrying the supporting infantry and workmen for track repair along with you. Now I’m just picturing partisans piling up hundreds of thousands of cubic yards of dirt to build a manmade hill over the track. “Da, ze grade is gonna be so loving steep by the time we’re done!”
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 06:35 |
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Epicurius posted:One of the things that killed public bathing was the Black Death, because when everybody's dying of the plague, the whole idea of "lets everybody strip down and get in the bath together, have a meal and maybe while you're there have sex with either your wife or a prostitute", was not seen as particularly safe and wise. And there’s that recent DNA evidence that the Plague of Justinian was actually Bubonic Plague. The people who did survive probably weren’t too fond of public gatherings after a few rounds of plague swept through.
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# ¿ May 21, 2020 05:33 |
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Mr Enderby posted:Dumb "x was worse than y" culture war posts aside, I would actually like to read an effortpost on the Bengal famine and its causes. Someone did a really good effort post about this famine, but I can't find it right now. Behind the Bastards did a great two-parter on it that I'd recommend ("How Winston Churchill and Frederick Lindemann Starved India") and here's a couple of shorter summaries I had bookmarked: Slim Jim Pickens posted:It was the result of British scorched earth operations early in the Burma campaign, and subsequently, a refusal of the British administration to actually deliver famine relief. The parallel to the Irish famine lies in how the British attempted to organize early relief efforts via market-based solutions. India as a whole was a food-sufficient colony, but rather than releasing local stocks as general relief, the British flooded the market in an attempt to lower prices. This grain was simply bought up by the richer strata of Bengali society, while the rural villages continued to starve, as they were far from provincial markets and were too poor to afford grain anyways. Shalebridge Cradle posted:Churchill directly ordered that food not be sent to India, and that the local government was not allowed to use its own money or ships to import more. The US and Australia offered to help, and they were either ignored or told not to get involved by his cabinet. tl;dr: Wiston Churchill knew what was happening, didn't give a poo poo, and his racism/imperial callousness killed millions of Indian people while he ordered the country to continue exporting grain to Britain. He's 100% a mass-murderer on-par with Stalin or Hitler, he just did a better job wrapping it in terms we consider more acceptable ('the free market will provide', or 'personal responsibility') so it gets brushed under the rug. This Mark Twain quote comes to mind: quote:THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 00:24 |
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Mr Enderby posted:Thanks for looking those up. Yeah no problem, those posts really stuck in my memory since I always learned about that particular famine as Japan's Fault! The War! Ehhhhh India just kinda has famines! (it's nobody's fault) ...and then it turns out that, nope, political leaders were repeatedly informed, they just didn't give a poo poo. Fuligin posted:QCS is where you go to whine about mean cspammers op Lol, nice.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 21:24 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I am by no means pro Churchill, but he was also quite personally brave, perhaps TOO brave. IMO excessive bravery is a bit of a poo poo trait for a military commander. Sure, when it works out you get a leader like Trajan or Alexander, but that also means you're outrunning your own supply lines, overreaching, and walking into traps. More meticulous commanders like Quintus Fabius or Ziggy Sprague don't really get the credit they deserve, while 'brave' leaders like William Halsey and Joachim Murat are overrated. Subutai doesn't count, it's not a fair comparison when someone gets to start with 100 in every stat.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 22:11 |
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HEY GUNS posted:as hitler's first war stresses, you are confusing (and if this were germany in the 20s hitler would be banking on this) a regimental runner with a batallion runner. He was the second one. To be fair, IIRC the massive shifts in artillery capability and usage made the latter a more dangerous job in WW1 it was in past wars. Sure, you might get your throat slit by bandits or skirmishers, but in 19th century combat you don't have hurricanes of air-bursting shrapnel hammering targets 10 miles behind the front lines. But yeah, no, we do not have to hand it to Hitler.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 22:16 |
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A Typical Goon posted:This would be a good point if most of the information I was talking about didn't come from Stephen Kotkin and his thousands pages long biography of Stalin which is sourced and backed by hundreds of primary documents Some people think communism is a uniquely bad ideology, and somehow worse than fascism or capitalism (which kill way more people).
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# ¿ May 30, 2020 21:46 |
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^^that's wonderful to imagine.Phanatic posted:Or if the local chandler keeps seeing candlelight coming from your house and knows you haven’t been buying candles. Hmmm, interesting, I didn't realize Friends was so historically accurate.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2020 22:14 |
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Alchenar posted:If you could pick one general from history to defend a position for you from a vastly superior opposing army then it's a toss up between Wellington and Lee. Bullshit, Lee is overrated even from a defensive standpoint. A good general playing defense doesn’t blindly lead his army into enemy territory without a clear idea of how to achieve victory. Better options would include Quintus Fabius, or Ziggy Sprague. Hell, Subutai would definitely kick Lee’s rear end. Heraclius fought a similar strategy from a much worse position, but with a clear idea of what his war aims and targets were. That’s how he kicked the Persian empire’s rear end, burned their temples, and won a generation-long war with one ragtag army of Roman misfits.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2020 01:24 |
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blackmongoose posted:I think the more interesting question is if you absolutely must win a battle where you are massively outnumbered, who do you most want to be in charge on the other side? Nikephoros I, that way the enemy side camps in a swampy valley, without posting sentries, after they see the barricades you built at one end of the valley.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2020 11:03 |
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Fangz posted:The Atom bomb was used exactly piecemeal. If you follow the argument, the US should have waited until they had 40 and dropped them all at once. Idk, the use of the atom bomb in 1945 is more like if Germany had suddenly gas-attacked two big French cities when they were outside Paris in 1914, or if the Allies had suddenly gassed two German cities in mid-1918 (if gas didn’t exist until then). It was a massive, city-killing show of force against a demoralized and near-broken enemy. Under those circumstances, stockpiling 40 wasn’t necessary to gently caress up enemy morale. Now, if the US had nuked Guadalcanal in 1942, that wouldn’t have had the same devastating effect. Sure, it would’ve been shocking, but the Japanese military still had multiple layers of defensive lines to fall back to- by 1945 they had no such room to maneuver or devise a countermeasure.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 05:20 |
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Alchenar posted:Also we're 75 years on and it's still the case that nobody has come up with a satisfactory countermeasure for 'getting nuked' so this is obviously not an analogous circumstance. Agreed, but I’m saying the Japanese wouldn’t have necessarily known that (ie. a new strategy of “easy, just shoot down every bomber!”) and their perceived room to retreat/maybe figure out some countermeasure would make the psychological impact much less devastating in 1942 than in 1945. The V1 and V2s didn’t really achieve their intended terror effect during the Battle of Britain for a lot of reasons. One reason is certainly that the Nazis didn’t introduce them in one huge barrage (even if that was feasible), but another is the circumstances of their intended targets. These new weapons would’ve been much more psychologically devastating if they were used after the Nazis (somehow, fuckin’ Operation Magic Sealion or whatever) had a whole army in Britain wrecking the British army. Then there’s no time to comfortably learn how this new weapon system works, there’s just “OH gently caress PARLIAMENT IS ASHES NOW! THEY CAN loving DO THAT?!” And that’s more analogous to the circumstances of the first use of nuclear weapons by the US IMO: a terrifying first display against a losing enemy in order to cow them into submission.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 10:07 |
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Someone upthread mentioned the balance of forces on the western front in WW1 hovered around 2.5M allies vs 1.5M Germans (idk if the Italian front gets counted in that or not) Is that basically accurate? Were the advantages in trench warfare so stacked in the defender’s favor that they could hold the line for 4 years against a force with a nearly 2:1 advantage in number? What matters more than the strategic balance of forces is the local balance of forces at any one location. The fundamental problem both sides kept running into was reinforcements - the defender can use rail lines to move up reinforcements, while the attackers have to walk men across no-man's land to reinforce a successful attack, which makes it very difficult to hold onto any ground you win. The theater-wide balance of forces doesn't really matter, if every time they successfully attack they're limited to moving up, say, 1,000 men/hour (once a runner gets back to their lines to report the success) while the Germans can immediately start bringing up 5,000 men/hour to counterattack and plug the gap.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 16:46 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Ok, semi-serious question here: United States, hands down. Tons of empty space, a wide variety of terrain, and tons of domestic arms manufacturing, bullets, tanks, oil- just think how much you’d save on shipping!
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2020 20:00 |
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HEY GUNS posted:also it was cold. soldiers who were quartered on you in the 17th century would also sleep in the house's one bed, i've seen it in legal testimony That sounds like it could get extremely rapey real fast.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 07:43 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Fun fact about pellegra: it’s very possible to have a corn- centric diet. You just have to soak the corn in lye to break down the outer shell and some other chemistry bullshit that makes the nutrients available to your body. Nixtamalization is what it’s called and it was a key part of how mesoamerican cultures produced corn. You run into problems when you use mechanical grinding to get rid of the hull. How dare you, this is America! *dies of malnutrition*
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 18:28 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It never would have happened because Japan actively did not want to antagonize the Soviets by attacking that supply line. I do wonder what would've happened if some dumbfuck soviet general had bungled Khalkhin Gol into a disastrous defeat. WW2 might've gone differently if Japan spent it loving up the Soviet far east, rather than picking a fight with the US. Maybe the US still ultimately gets involved, but anti-war sentiment would've been a lot stronger without a casus belli like Pearl Harbor. Then, without lend-lease and fresh siberian divisions, the Soviets would've been in a much tighter spot. something something gay black hitler
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 20:46 |
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Gnoman posted:It is questionable that the US w ould try to stop a Japan-USSR war tp the extent that they did the Japan-China one. China was at least nominally a US ally, while the Soviets were just Evil Commies. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that a policy of " Let's you and him fight " would be the preferred solution there until Hitker managed to drag the US into Europe. Yeah, something like Operation Unthinkable was batshit lunacy by the end of WW2, but I don’t see the US and UK providing massive direct intervention to rescue the Soviets if Japan and Germany were in a better position to beat the piss out of it in 1940-41. Especially if Vladivostok was no longer in Soviet hands. A short-sighted policy of “oh whatever, they’re just killing communists OH gently caress WE’RE ISOLATED NOW” seems very possible. The US had some incredible industrial might, but I don’t think we would’ve been able to dump the necessary millions of bodies into the meatgrinder to beat fascism if the Soviets were off the table. Especially if WW2 was perceived by the US public as less of a defensive war (“Pearl Harbor!”) and more of an offensive war (“we attacked Japan because they were killing commies?!”). I could see it degenerating into a different Cold War, with the US immune to invasion (and wielding nukes) but unable to recapture all of Europe solo.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 23:01 |
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Trillhouse posted:Weird question about something I half remembered and couldn't find through google: You're in luck, buddy. "Enter the house with a friend: you and your grenade"
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2020 18:01 |
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Trillhouse posted:Oh hell yes. Thank you! This is it! No problem, props to EE for the awesome effortpost.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2020 18:21 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 14:20 |
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yo hegel, who would win in a pike-fight, landschneckts or macedonians?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 18:44 |