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SlothfulCobra posted:There's a similar thing when playing World of Guns and the AK-47 is a nice easy model while the sturmgewehr is a nightmare. Oh God yes. The basic field stripping is similar to an AR-15, but then you get into the guts and you realize that they just sort of crammed the trigger pack and all the other moving parts into a very narrow receiver with everything hanging on its own individual spacer.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Is said game worth it? Its a fun game if you like painting tanks. You use a rust remover to paint the rust off the tank. Then you use a sandblaster to sand the tank, which is not too dissimilar to just painting the tank silver. Then you paint the tank with red primer, then you paint the tank. If you are up for it, you can then send the painted tank into the paint booth and apply camo or other paint markings. Paint! Its quite relaxing tbh, not too many bugs and once you get used to the controls easy to move around in.
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A recent Behind the Bastards was about Basil Zaharoff, who I suppose most notoriously was an arms dealer in the build-up-to and during WW1. He was a pretty lovely person, but I couldn't shake that this was a case where the times made the person, not that the person made the times. Was he a particularly special brand of monster?
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xthetenth posted:The first, awkward forms of things frequently aren't what it eventually settles down on, and it's a good point that overly reductive categorizations of a genre can end up excluding important early forms. I guess I'd come down on it having to be primarily focused on force projection versus transportation, so the Merkava is a Tank that happens to be able to carry a couple of guys but the Bradley which (despite best efforts, as seen in the shot-in-real-time documentary The Pentagon Papers) carries passengers as a primary role is not. I guess there's also an organizational aspect to it: how does the military employing them parcel them out (e.g.: One per infantry squad? Probably not a tank.)  E: I similar to how I think of the HIND as a gunship that happens to have a couple of passenger seats versus a HIP which is a transport that happens to have a couple of guns?
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:A recent Behind the Bastards was about Basil Zaharoff, who I suppose most notoriously was an arms dealer in the build-up-to and during WW1. He was a pretty lovely person, but I couldn't shake that this was a case where the times made the person, not that the person made the times. Was he a particularly special brand of monster? He wasn't a particularly nice man. He profited on war and misery, he bribed governments, he sabotaged his rivals, he sold shoddy products, and there's no evidence he was motivated by anything g other than personal wealth.
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Schadenboner posted:I guess I'd come down on it having to be primarily focused on force projection versus transportation, so the Merkava is a Tank that happens to be able to carry a couple of guys but the Bradley which (despite best efforts, as seen in the shot-in-real-time documentary The Pentagon Papers) carries passengers as a primary role is not. I guess there's also an organizational aspect to it: how does the military employing them parcel them out (e.g.: One per infantry squad? Probably not a tank.) On the other one X is right, the first Purist/Purist tank is the Renault FT-17 for a good reason. The Mk.IV and Whippet are weird as gently caress.
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Feb 28, 2020 22:31
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FrangibleCover posted:a traditional role of the cavalryman, not the tank.
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Epicurius posted:He wasn't a particularly nice man. He profited on war and misery, he bribed governments, he sabotaged his rivals, he sold shoddy products, and there's no evidence he was motivated by anything g other than personal wealth. But enough about Elon Musk
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HEY GUNS posted:cav are tanks, esp cuirassiers. A horse is a tank. 
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Schadenboner posted:similar to how I think of the HIND as a gunship that happens to have a couple of passenger seats versus a HIP which is a transport that happens to have a couple of guns? That is entirely correct. The Mi-24 is a gunship that was sometimes used to deploy strategic reconnaissance troops or give some troops a lift between bases, the Mi-8 is a transport helicopter that can be fitted with lots of weapons for gunship or infantry assault roles.
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Schadenboner posted:A horse is a tank. Only cataphracts.
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There's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a tank.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Only cataphracts.
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i found some good guns. I mean, honestly, can anyone REALLY do with just one barrel? The more the better I say! Eight barrels is a good start, but i feel like it's it's still missing something. . . spikes maybe?  Hmm. . . not sure I'm feeling it. OH now I see what was missing. It just needed more barrels!  NOW WE'RE TALKING! According to the image caption these two volley guns are from the sixteenth and seventh century. Imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger blasting one of those from over his shoulder Commando style, with big poofy breeches and no shirt
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Squalid posted:Imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger blasting one of those from over his shoulder Commando style, with big poofy breeches and no shirt don’t stop i’m almost there
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You joke but there is a Russian fantasy trilogy set in the era where the man played the Pirate bad guy.
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Squalid posted:i found some good guns. I mean, honestly, can anyone REALLY do with just one barrel? The more the better I say! So is there like a Kickstarter to make this happen or...?
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Xiahou Dun posted:So is there like a Kickstarter to make this happen or...?
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HEY GUNS posted:organ gun 
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Skanky Burns posted:Its a fun game if you like painting tanks. You use a rust remover to paint the rust off the tank. Then you use a sandblaster to sand the tank, which is not too dissimilar to just painting the tank silver. Then you paint the tank with red primer, then you paint the tank. If you are up for it, you can then send the painted tank into the paint booth and apply camo or other paint markings. Paint! That's how you do it for real: 
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Schadenboner posted:as seen in the shot-in-real-time documentary The Pentagon Papers) Pedant: Pentagon Wars. The Pentagon Papers was the public release of the secret study of the war in Vietnam that proved that the US knew it was doomed to fail but kept sending in money and people anyway.
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Skanky Burns posted:Its a fun game if you like painting tanks. You use a rust remover to paint the rust off the tank. Then you use a sandblaster to sand the tank, which is not too dissimilar to just painting the tank silver. Then you paint the tank with red primer, then you paint the tank. If you are up for it, you can then send the painted tank into the paint booth and apply camo or other paint markings. Paint! Yeah, the actual gameplay boils down to holding left click at various parts in succession until they've got the right colour, but it still hits that sort of zen mood where it's quite satisfying to gradually get everything just right. Plus it's a fun way to get a feeling for just how cramped the insides of these things could be. Also to echo that review earlier now that I've gotten to that point as well: gently caress the Tiger. Oh, you want to get at one particular suspension or torsion bar? Have fun removing these sixteen thousand roadwheels first! 
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I had a summer job as a kid repainting an M3 half track for a museum, which was a total nightmare because it required taking it apart about halfway and removing a ton of stuff. I wish I had some pictures from that project, it was so cool and is still on display with a functional .50 on top somewhere.
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Pryor on Fire posted:it was so cool and is still on display with a functional .50 on top somewhere. hmmm, you might want to locate that. 
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Fly Molo posted:hmmm, you might want to locate that. Why? It's not hard to license machine guns, there are shitloads of them floating around Colorado on and off vehicles. It was in Colorado Springs, but I think it got sold somewhere else and Google is not returning anything. Pryor on Fire fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 29, 2020 |
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Here is a hunt for those so inclined. Someone on a slack server is looking for a book. That book seems to be rather hard to find as his library of congress search turned up nothing. Here is his request. quote:I've gone to the library of congress, requested through the national archives but nobody is sure where I can find this except maybe the pentagon library and that's not exactly feasible at the moment.  If anyone finds anything PM me and I will pass it along.
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Seems like the kind of thing DTIC would have. You need a CAC to register. I don't have one, but I'm sure somebody around here does.
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Not today ISIS.
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Squalid posted:if you read taliban and houthi press releases like i do, you get used to literally any military vehicle being called a tank. Although even in their case, they'd only call a hillux a tank if it had been up-armored. What is the typical level of up-armouring on a (up-armoured) technical?
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Weka posted:What is the typical level of up-armouring on a (up-armoured) technical? well in places like yemen its not uncommon to see the Saudis using vehicles like this:  I guess they are probably a bit more. . . Official? Intentionally designed? Than technicals, but they look rather similar to ME. And tbf to the the radical Islamist press agencies, usually they mean something like these things, i don't even know what you'd call this class of military vehicle:  I guess its an armored personnel vehicle? I don't know
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Squalid posted:
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They were designed to replace the Humvee in the armored car role with way more IED resistance but they are so loving big you can land small planes on them so technically they are aircraft carriers.
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Squalid posted:well in places like yemen its not uncommon to see the Saudis using vehicles like this: they're called MRAPs...mine resistant ambush protected vehicles. they were built in MASSIVE numbers to soak up IEDs and small arms fire as a part of GWOT adventures
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Saudi Arabia seems to field such a weird eclectic mix of poo poo. It comes in all shapes and sizes. Most be a logistics hell What even is this thing? It's obviously much lighter than American MRAPs, I guess its about on the level of a heavy humvee type vehicle. And yet half the time Saudi you see a video of Saudis patrolling their border getting ambushed they are just in regular white suvs or pickups.
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I think that is a knocked out MRAP that was rebuilt with a really bad suspension and weird rear end body kit?
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Looks like an alternate tesla truck concept Saudi Arabia is a country that has way more money than sense, I think they buy military equipment from literally everywhere.
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How did the usage of rifle musket differ in the American Revolutionary compare to the Napoleonic wars? I know the British and the Prussians had entire units that used rifles which doesn't seem to line up with any anything the ARW.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Looks like an alternate tesla truck concept In comparison, the irish military has had a vehicle budget of 150$ a year. /s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceQrQCgMLRA Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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