zoux posted:

Oh man the literal monkey's paw

zoux posted:

Drewjitsu posted:

T1 scorch spitter
T2 Rimrock knight, attack with ss = 18
T3 Bone crusher giant, attack with ss and rk = 13
T4 Torbran, Thane of Red Fell, attack with ss (6), rk (5) and bg (6) = opponent at - 4.

Torbran is pretty nuts in RDW. If Torbran was slaying fire instead the opponent would be at 1 life on T5, and die to scorch spitter ping.

It's very possible to goldfish a T5 kill in this format.

Mike N Eich posted:

this reminded me, why did Risen Reef seemingly disappear from the meta since the start of Eldraine? The Elemental decks didn't really lose anything, and it synergizes with Field too

pointsofdata posted:

I think a Krasis ban is well overdue. For any deck that produces a decent amount of mana in a slow format it produces so much value. (And it would make both nissa and golos decks worse)

Oceanbound posted:

What's worse, Esper mirror hell or Food mirror hell

MRLOLAST posted:

What can I buy in paper magic that I can redeem in MtgA. The plainswalkers decks? Do they have any good cards?

Huxley posted:

You can find SCG interviews with him from before he started streaming where he sounds like a normal human being. I think his kids wandered into a stream once and asked him to "stop talking like that."

I don't know how much of the mr pissy britches attitude is actual him vs his brand at this point, but the voice at the very least is an affectation.

Doltos posted:

Wouldn't it make games go faster because people are milling out lands and are getting their cards instead?

No Wave posted:

ok, explain once upon a time.

Sinteres posted:

The whole 'we have this brand new play design process to make sure everything works as intended' thing really doesn't seem to be going as smoothly anymore.

Dpulex posted:

Looking forward to the next set where we get a 2 mana 5 loyalty walker that ruins the meta

Kashuno posted:

Hey I took a couple weeks off did anyone build a deck that stomps Oko decks?

Paul Zuvella posted:

turn 2 oko and turn 3 nissa is literally impossible

Paul Zuvella posted:

Sup man the difference between 1 and 2 mana is MASSIVE

e: the strangest thing about veil is that its both extremely efficient, extremely diverse, and powerful

And then it cantrips for some reason.

I don't get why it cantrips at all. Its not like the other m20 color hosers cantrip, why did they add a cantrip onto the most powerful one for no reason. Cards that literally only exist to 2 for 1 your opponent are a problem

Mega Comrade posted:

When will the bans go live in Arena after announcement?

No Wave posted:

how does this combo work?

Bust Rodd posted:

Ok so after burning 2 Gold WC to finish my Fires of Invention I immediately realized that i hate all these Grixis/Jeskai fires builds.

Goons please help me brew MARDU FIRES! I'm thinking either just running wall to wall value enchantments with Cavalier of Dawn, Realm-Cloaked Giant, Chandra, Liliana and Sarkhan as my finishing moves. I'm considering the Footlight Fiend tech to stall until I can hit 4-5 mana, and I'm considering some Blood For Bones action maybe, but can't find a Mardu way of getting Drakuseth and Villis into my graveyard. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? I'm a devout netdecker, I usually don't enjoy brewing at all, but honestly there are so many dope enchantments in Standard right now and Fires of Invention seems bad in decks that want to be running Blue mana. Mardu decks rarely have interaction up for your opponents turn, so I feel like untapping with Fires in a Mardu deck gets you more value out of it than say a Jeskai deck.

BioThermo posted:

I don't play rakdos or know how pinched double black would be with tournament grounds and ~22 lands, but Regisaur -> Spawn of Mayhem strikes me as a solid swap to not get chumped on the ground forever.

I'd make the declaration that Spawn is underplayed and underrated and should be played by more decks in general, but, Teferi and Borrower.

ungulateman posted:

The part where the cat can move between zones at instant speed means graveyard hate is almost irrelevant unless it's insanely pushed. Even Cry of the Carnarium can technically be played around, though the Cat player has to see it coming and leave the cat in the graveyard except during the end step (which lets you attack them, in your deck running Cry, which is probably not optimal).

What we actually need is more maindeckable artifact hate. For a 1 cmc artifact. The fact that Thrashing Brontodon, one of the best maindeckable hate cards in Standard, trades so poorly with cat oven says a lot about how dumb the whole thing is. Even Embereth Shieldbreaker, which lines up way better against Oven and way worse against everything else, isn't good enough.

As for cards from Theros that are relevant against it, so far we have Tymaret (if you have 2x more mana open than they have food), Kunoros (if you are W/B), Erebos' Intervention (if you catch them with no food), Banishing Light (3 mana answer to a 1 cmc artifact), Cling to Dust (if you catch them with less food than times you can cast it), Binding of the Titans (if they completely punt), Klothys (again, if they completely punt), and Revoke Existence (2 mana narrow answer to a 1cmc artifact).

So basically, play black and hope your opponent doesn't play around the cards that can deal with it. And while you're playing black, may I interest you in this 8 card package that adds a lot of resilience and reach to your deck without much opportunity cost...?

Setec_Astronomy posted:

Yes, but why is there not a ranked Theros option available? It’s bizarre that the only way to rank up in limited is to play an old (solved) format rather than a newer more competitive format.

A Big... Dog posted:

This game doesn't hand out enough wildcards. Discuss

Zero VGS posted:

It occurs to me I have never once seen anyone play an Athreos, Shroud-Veiled.

Funkdreamer posted:

We've never had a Flash planeswalker before have we? That would be kind of cool

Shooting Blanks posted:

I could see it as an alternate wincon for Jeskai cycling to Zenith Flare if someone figures out a way to make that competitive, but thespaceinvader is right. Probably not.

Bust Rodd posted:

I dispute the idea that preventing you from playing you Commander says “gently caress you” to the format. The format is ALSO about a singleton deck having the tools it needs to succeed in a highly variable meta, and unlike many of the other hate pieces in Standard, Magistrate literally has no protection.

Magistrate ONLY negatively impacts Planeswalker Brawl decks that rely on their Commander as their signature removal spell or mana engine (Tef3ri, the UG untapper, Bolas). Like what is Drannith Magistrate stopping you from doing, what has your experience been fighting that card? Is it appreciably different from a T2 Hushbringer against most of the popular Braw decks?

Simone Poodoin posted:

Of course it's a terrible idea and I hope they don't do it, but they might.

Bust Rodd posted:

The response is absolutely everyone loves Ikoria, we just all hate what companions have done to the game. I don’t think anyone has a problem with companions in the abstract it’s just that the specific ones we were given turned out to amplify the absolute worst that standard has to offer right now

drewmoney posted:

I don't want to draft, but I don't want to waste my entry token. Do I just use it on a premier draft entry , take the best cards in each pick I don't have and then forfeit?

Elephant Ambush posted:

I'm enjoying black Lurrus and white Lurrus. I hope that lovely new rule is fake.

TipTow posted:

I know Arena is Always Correct, so could someone explain to me why a Gruul Spellbreaker was able to pick haste when it ETB while I had a Hushbringer on the board?

A Moose posted:

also, its the first creature that steals permanents on ETB that doesn't give them back when it leaves play, and they designed it to be flickered, which is why it has that card draw ability. They could have added a kicker like Goblin Ruinblaster so it doesn't trigger repeatedly, they could have only made it steal when it was cast. I don't think the card is safe at any cost, as long as you can use Lukka or reanimate it, its too good. Even Hostage Taker is more forgiving. Even if they can cast the card they steal immediately, you can still save your card by responding to the ETB with instant speed removal.

JakeP posted:

Will you be able to use this ability on opponents turn if you have T3fari's +1 ability active?