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Popete posted:Because SC doesn't hide loading screens! It's all one big map. Never mind that it doesn't actually work and only hosts 50 players, Chris says one day it will host millions of players. quote:Server meshing and object containers means that the Jump Point can itself be an instanced space. Server meshing means star systems will not be monolithic spaces but discrete boxes of space handled by different server instances. As far as your client will be concerned, there should be literally nothing different to flying in the Stanton system to a jump point ring, flying through the Jump Point space, and emerging into space in Pyro and flying around in it -- your client is loading object containers. Once server meshing is in, going from one object container to another will sometimes be an instance transition and needs to happen seamlessly.
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Dreadwroth2 posted:Uhhh Star Citizens I have literally jumped into a system, approached a planet, landed, hopped out in my totally working SRV, and drove around a moon totally seamlessly in Elite. In what way is that trickery aside from the normal "hiding loading screens" thing super common in games since Resident Evil 1 came out? The trickery is when you enter the planet and get kicked out of supercruise, or jump into supercruise, or jump systems via witchspace, etc. In any non-cult context these are considered smart ways to hide loading. They're relatively quick and thematic and the long whirring buildup to ftl travel is super satisfying. Conversely, a bad way to hide loading is to have interminably long descents then despite those having geometry popping up post-descent. It may be poo poo, but at least it's not fake, and this matters because you are desperately grasping at straws trying to say why ~ambition~ trumps competence.
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Dreadwroth2 posted:In what way is that trickery aside from the normal "hiding loading screens" thing super common in games since Resident Evil 1 came out? That's the thing though, what we're mocking is that Chris Roberts feels it is "wrong" to have games use cheats like... hiding loading screens. The Chris Roberts Way is to simulate everything as if it was real, have an entire virtual world running in a server. This is pointlessly stupid so we're making fun of it  But Star Citizens believe in this and this is why its okay that SC is taking 20 years, because its "real" unlike other games which are "fake".
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Zaphod42 posted:Last I checked you can't do any of that in Star Citizen either My favourite part is the last sentence, because my brain just goes and autocompletes it: "...before I get 30K or CtD"
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Let's reminisce Star Citizen right not to ape “basic, bare minimum” approach of Elite: Dangerous, claims Chris Roberts quote:While Chris Roberts told Kotaku Braben’s approach was “a totally viable way to go about it”, he also claims the game itself launched with the “basic, bare minimum of features” and dismisses the idea that it’ll be easier for Frontier to retrofit the game later on in life if Star Citizen proves to be a threat. quote:“The race isn’t finished yet,” he concludes. “Wait till the finish line is crossed and then I’ll say people can make judgements about whether it was the right way or not. Instinctively, it was the way that felt right to me.”
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Mailer posted:The trickery is when you enter the planet and get kicked out of supercruise, or jump into supercruise, or jump systems via witchspace, etc. In any non-cult context these are considered smart ways to hide loading. They're relatively quick and thematic and the long whirring buildup to ftl travel is super satisfying. Excactly this, but somehow there is a crowd who think delaying a project for years and spending tens of millions of dollars for a sub par outcome is still a good idea. Zaphod42 posted:That's the thing though, what we're mocking is that Chris Roberts feels it is "wrong" to have games use cheats like... hiding loading screens. Nothing is fake over here, but please dont look as we scale you down to a 100th of your size and have the elevator clip through the geometry to get to your destination. Please marvel at our complex room gas simulation, the pressure , the tempature the ARGON !!! ...... no no the door dosent just check if space suit = 1 when you open the air lock ..... no dont trust that dam dancing cat !!! we are not fake dammit. Cats cant dance!!!! The Chris Roberts Way is to claim to simulate everything as if it was real then just fake the living gently caress out of it .... but do a real bad job while charging people for the privilage of witnessing the event DigitalPenny fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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At this point I'm convinced that they're really trying to develop some neural network to play their game and serve the drinks and whatnot. How can it possibly happen that NPC that should just sit on his rear end in one place forever just fucks off to wherever? More likely option is that  wanders around building saying that the four jacket guy should just sit there, other day he says he should have a life and go for a hotdog or something. But I wouldn't be surprised by neural network because that's just dumb
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All this talk of Frontier, and they still stay classy https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/elite-dangerous-horizons-is-becoming-a-free-expansion/ Imagine that - given the opportunity to carry on selling an expansion which seems to be mandatory for the upcoming space legs DLC, what do they do, jack up the price to catch the hype wave about space legs? Nope - they give it away for nothing. It made me wonder, what would Crobblers do in that situation? 
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Jonny Shiloh posted:All this talk of Frontier, and they still stay classy 
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Kosumo posted:Have CIG just come out and killed the grey market? lol, looks like it. One gift a week. I didn't know you can't gift a > $1,000 ship either. Edit: Love the classy nickname in the response. Should ask him how Karnage is doing. Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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Kosumo posted:Have CIG just come out and killed the grey market? Interesting if true  Citizens are currently crying fake though Nothing on the FAQ about it at the moment. Need Chris to leap forth and talk about 'pledge to win'.
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Jonny Shiloh posted:All this talk of Frontier, and they still stay classy I am not sure whether I ever saw in any other game older DLCs or microtransaction items to increase in their store price. Never done before, I guess. Dwesa fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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It has been a few months but it is time for CLOUD IMPERIUM UK LTD to once again gently caress about with its share capital. The info hasn't been processed by Companies House yet but on the face of it, I think they have reduced the nominal share capital from 1.1million shares with a par value of nothing, to fewer, I don't know 100,000 shares maybe also with a par value of nothing. There will be a statement about how they are good for all their debts and such to accompany this move. On the face of it this is another pointless move so maybe there is some point to it. The total share capital remains £117.158 apparently but perhaps some shares have changed hands.
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I noted how walking around on the planet and in buildings isn't the alpha state, but the pre-alpha state.
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Beexoffel posted:I noted how walking around on the planet and in buildings isn't the alpha state, but the pre-alpha state. not like that means anything anymore to be fair
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Inacio posted:not like that means anything anymore to be fair True that. I just thought it placed SC back to pre-alpha as well. Looking further, is this bar tender mo-cap? 
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Ffycchi posted:Well...I stand by that I won't live long enough to see star citizen. I really hope you get better soon.
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Ffycchi posted:Well...I stand by that I won't live long enough to see star citizen. My best wishes for a speedy recovery, Ffycchi!
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Bumble He posted:trams yrev eb tsum ti tub tib eno teg ton od "Furthermore, I consider that Star Citizen must be destroyed", or something to that effect
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So $1500 is wanted for the account. Does anyone know whether it's selling at a discount/premium to the cost? If so, how much discount/premium?
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quote:[PSA] We are screwed, gifting limits incoming. (self.Starcitizen_trades)
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Ponzi posted:So $1500 is wanted for the account. Does anyone know whether it's selling at a discount/premium to the cost? If so, how much discount/premium?  who knows
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Dwesa posted:To make Verse more accessible, they recently increased prices of starter ships because... In many p2w games if an item on sale is too good for its price then, after a while, it disappears from the store. Later on a modified version appears with a higher price tag.
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Dreadwroth2 posted:Uhhh Star Citizens I have literally jumped into a system, approached a planet, landed, hopped out in my totally working SRV, and drove around a moon totally seamlessly in Elite. In what way is that trickery aside from the normal "hiding loading screens" thing super common in games since Resident Evil 1 came out? Chris Roberts thinks that pixels in a video game should be 1:1 to atoms in the real world. Which is why "you control the spaceman who controls the ship" is so important - the spaceman and ship exist independently, like everything else, and when you tell him to sit down he sits in the chair of the ship and then uses the controls to control the ship, which, no matter how you accomplish it, is different only in the minds of the backers from just controlling the ship directly like actual games do. Everything has to "exist" in the gamespace simultaneously, how that's more "real" that using loading screens is beyond me, since everything virtual is fake by definition - loading an entire 30 GB .pst file into RAM at once in Outlook isn't more real than just loading the bits you're currently looking at, but in Chris Roberts's mind, that's "fake." You see, in real life you're holding an entire book, even if you can only see the pages it's opened to, the whole book is always there, so in a game it has to work that way too! That's "real," don't you understand how important it is to just know in the back of your mind that the pages you can't see are there anyway? There's an ancient philosophical riddle that asks "if a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound?" Nice to know that thousands of years ago, people understood the concept that you don't have to load in resources that nobody is going be there to experience, but Chris Roberts doesn't. The man has a pre-caveman level intellect.
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Beexoffel posted:I noted how walking around on the planet and in buildings isn't the alpha state, but the pre-alpha state. So SC is better.
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Dreadwroth2 posted:Uhhh Star Citizens I have literally jumped into a system, approached a planet, landed, hopped out in my totally working SRV, and drove around a moon totally seamlessly in Elite. In what way is that trickery aside from the normal "hiding loading screens" thing super common in games since Resident Evil 1 came out? It's because they understand gently caress all. It's not a loading screen in Elite as such, it's a networking handshake, there are vids of people flying planet to planet with no loading, but if you mention this then get ready for an amazing semantics debate and an incredible display of goal post shifting.
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quote:I’d like to know from your opinion how Elite Dangerous is doing more? Hang on I want to go back to this. This is a great set up if you're writing a novel, or scripting out a tv show or something. The characters interact, they go off their separate ways to do their thing, and then *something happens* because we're telling a goddamn story. The character's don't want that thing to happen, they want to relax and unwind after actual work and the actual mundane stress of their lives and NOT risk their lives because they don't want to fuckin' die. Of course, none of that happens in SC because they for some reason want to roleplay the tedium and dullness of real life. OF COURSE in a game they want to play a roguish captain who gets into adventures because it's a goddamn game and the consequences of failure are 'start over', not gently caress you're dead.
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I'm always a little sad that I know this game will never exist in the big simulated 'verse they want. I can just imagine them trying to get everyone together in top hats in a big space jacuzzi while eating hot dogs, then some 12 year old just flies in wipes their ship out in seconds for the sweet loot. All these gamer dads screaming their heads off about how the kid isn't "playing the game right" or whatever. Meanwhile, the kid is just trying to make enough money to buy a bigger ship to be space captain, just like them. This nightmare scenario is entirely their fault, and it's exactly what's going to happen forever if the game were to release. Alas...
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CIG are saying the gifting limit thing is fake. The grey market continues as before. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/j2jhqs/cig_we_have_limited_the_gifting_system_to_one/
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