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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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EBB posted:

On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me
A PSA on fire safety

https://twitter.com/USCPSC/status/1201163246000070656?s=19

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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McNally posted:

If Buttigieg is a Rhodes Scholar and doesn't have a masters degree then what the hell was the point of getting a Rhodes Scholarship other than denying it to someone who'd use it simply so they can make it a line on their resume?

Edit: Apparently he used it to get a second BA. What the unholy gently caress.

They should call it chodes scholar when you just go for a second bachelor's

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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the tubby guy just cranking off tweets all by his lonesome, every day more desperate than the last.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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lol who the gently caress are they saying were there before beringia was above water

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Stultus Maximus posted:

Neanderthals didn't live in the Americas.


There's an idea promoted by certain people that all current Native Americans are descended from a second wave of Asian migration that wiped out all the members of the first wave (and therefore the European genocide of Native Americans is okay).

It's like the American version of the Empty Land Myth.

:lol: there's abso fuckin lutely nothing in the archaeological, anthropological, or paleological record that supports such a horseshit myth

Like there's tenuous evidence that Polynesians were landing in Chile but not before the (generally accepted iirc) 12-15k bce beringia migration period. And even that hypothesis is considered closer to tinfoil than truth, mainly because of the lack of actual evidence. By tenuous I mean "they have similar words for things" which as you may guess does not really speak directly to the hypothesis.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Dec 2, 2019

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Ken Bone Comeback posted:

...No
The material evidence from sites in southern Chile is roughly contemporaneous to the migrations along northern routes. It's tinfoily because it doesn't suit our old narrative of people coming down the ice free corridor and the peopling of the Americas branching from there littering the ground with Clovis points as they go. There is actually a considerable amount of physical evidence for multiple pathways to the Americas (esp in the fjordlands of Patagonia), even without getting into the actually-tenuous arguments that center on exchange of agricultural plants between S. America and Africa or Oceana.
My igneous petrology prof has done a lot of work on identifying obsidian tools by individual sources (lava flow/volcano by time and place) that are found in southern Chile and Argentina.

That said, this second wave empty America thing is crazy nonsense that sounds like typical nazi flat Earth conspiracy bullshit

poo poo I didn't know there was hard evidence, even contemporaneous with the Beringia timeline - I'd only thought they were basing the idea on something like a similar word for yams.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Ken Bone Comeback posted:

No, not at all. The Monte Verde site in Chile has hearths, wooden posts, and human footprints. Best estimates using carbon isotope place the date at about 15ka, so actually just a bit older than the oldest material markers in North America.

The multiple pathways thing absolutely had been regarded as tinfoil in the past, but that was a product of how eurocentric and dogmatic the academic communities studying these questions were, even in the face of mounting evidence from colleagues in the far south of the Americas. Good reading on that topic in particular can be found in Red Earth, White Lies by Vine Deloria, Jr.

That's rad as hell and thanks for the book rec!

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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bird food bathtub posted:

There's also a loooooot of racist poo poo to unpack in the founding myth that settlers came to north america, found just a few scattered camps of savages that they had some minor fights with and then *poof* there was a country to settle in that the previous inhabitants weren't really using so we didn't do a bad thing.

While there is a massive, raging scholarly debate over the numbers that existed prior to their arrival, the actual colonization process took like 150-200-ish years and the "scattered bands of savages" myth seems to come from the invaders spreading diseases that the natives had no defense against that didn't just make a few people sick. Think closer to the range of 50-75% of everyone in the existing civilization dying off. That's the poo poo that our post-apocalypse collapse of civilization movies are built around. So yeah when the next waves of settlers came along over the course of century or so the survivors didn't have a stable civilization because we murdered them all with plagues. What a shock that the remaining communities were traumatized and acting like every hero from a zombie apocalypse movie we celebrate today while condemning them for having done it.

Wasn't there a passage in 1491 that described settlers happening across whole areas strewn with unburied bones?

E: I mean given our modern knowledge of epidemiology it should be very fuckin apparent that the Americas were not only far from empty, but populated with a dense web of complex civilizations who had enough contact with each other to spread smallpox and god knows what else from Mexico to Massachusetts.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Dec 2, 2019

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Harry Potter on Ice posted:

And now dumbass white dudes cant keep their lawn alive

For the most part they shouldn't be trying to grow that lawn in the first place.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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pantslesswithwolves posted:

I’d love to send all of the anti-vax wine mommy bloggers, sorry, vaccine risk aware merlot mother activists, to places where children die from easily preventable illnesses and where parents would and have killed people for the chance to vaccinate their kids.

And also bring back drawing and quartering just for Andrew Wakefield.

Take their loving kids away because it's no different from driving around shitfaced with them unbuckled in the back seat.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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facialimpediment posted:

Looks like the Dem subpoenas got AT&T call records, which showed Giuliani tying into the White House and OMB, plus Nunes talking a lot with the now-indicted Ukranians.

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1201950803990339586?s=19

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1201943168557686785?s=19

What is that "-1" number supposed to be?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Blondi, by all accounts, seemed like a pretty good dog. Explain that.

it's worth considering the source of those accounts

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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to an australian that's deeper into the ground

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Simpering simpleton speeds stateside, sobbing, sullenly stating seeing snickering statesmen soured summit

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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colachute posted:

I’m being pedantic here, but wouldn’t crime rates logically go down if police aren’t arresting people?

Depends on what they're counting.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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colachute posted:

Can someone briefly explain the history of why the US is so beholden to Israel?

One of the major abrahamic world religions (the one with ritual symbolic cannibalism) has numerous apocalyptic death-worshipping sects and our government is infested with those apocalyptic death-worshippers, who think their apocalypse is gonna start in Israel so they're obsessed with making sure they're on good terms with the people who run the place there when it does.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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LingcodKilla posted:

At the ol’ armored car company in the span of 8 years we had 4 discharges. 2 glocks, 1 XD and 1 revolver and all prior Marines.

Two glocks in the locker room I hope they never repaired the lockers.
XD shot off in a cab of a vehiclen in route. Killed the alternator and the truck was offline.
Revolver got yanked out of the holster by the seatbelt when the driver jumped out of the cab. He caught the gun before it fell and managed to pull the trigger and shoot the roof.

How the gently caress do you ND an XD unless I'm incorrect in thinking that's the Springfield XD with like 3 different safeties.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Saint Celestine posted:

....how often do NDs occur? Like in a normal unit of not idiots? Reading ^ and the idiot thread, it makes it seem things accidentally go BANG! a lot.

Yeah I was re-reading stuff about the XD's design and not only is there the regular ol thumb safety but a grip safety that locks the slide when not gripped, a trigger safety, and a drop safety that won't let the striker fire without all that poo poo being unsafed first so either that's not the XD in question or someone was treating their dash as a clearing barrel

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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LingcodKilla posted:

He said he forget to load it before coming to work. So he pulled it out of the holster racked the slide between his legs and oopys doodle hit the trigger.

lol at racking the slide with your loving finger on the trigger

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Proud Christian Mom posted:

the lesson we(and the Israelis lol) took from WW2 was that systemically slaughtering a group was bad and instead you just slow burn them away by putting them in untenable positions and deny even the most basic of care

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1135579639617851394

hey maybe #abolishICE should actually be #prosecuteICE

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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colachute posted:

Not with my definition of abolish.

fair enough

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Imagine being so fuckin dumb you think the 4% unemployment rate in the NYC area would even support the sudden need for 25k workers.

Just straight up poo poo-slurping, drinking-lead-paint dumb as gently caress.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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piL posted:

Wait, seriously? I have a hard time believing personal rain collection systems on non-industrial/commercial scale can really be sufficiently high to affect aquifers. Even if residential land turned half their acreage in urban areas to rain collection it still wouldn't come close to matching the non residential coverage. I assume most residential rain collection systems would be much less than half of residential land outside the urban centers.

I had assumed the restrictions are public health related, with water leeching chemicals from building materials and the ground being a health concern and standing water as a reservoir for mosquitos and other parasites.

Yeah it's almost certainly a skeeterborne illness prevention effort, between meningitis, zika, west nile, and all manner of lower-likelihood-but-worse stuff it's a lot easier to dump standing water than the alternative given the prevalence of bugchasing child abusers denying their kids medical care.

Unless people are diverting water out of the street it's not a water rights or hydrologic cycle concern.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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lol how dare she make *checks excel* $5500 a month before taxes

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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egyptian rat race posted:

High Hopes blasting in the background makes this extra funny:

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1203911398666985472

lol I wonder if twitter can get to the glass-shattering screech intensity on this guy faster than they did on warren when she hosed up on healthcare

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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bird food bathtub posted:

Well, what do the wealthy elite want to happen? Whichever one they want will have a healthy PR campaign ready and waiting to astroturf their goals with bots, "influencers" and media outlet think pieces coming out of the woodwork. I know which way I'd be betting.

It's just strange to see the astroturfing eye of sauron fix its gaze on warren and specifically start crowbarring her from the left, it's even weirder to see that it fuckin worked.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Godholio posted:

Good point...I might nitpick that depending on whether it was intentionally designed to go into space or if that was just what happened as a result of other intentions, but that's like an "argue over a beer" debate IF it was even a side effect instead of intent, which I have no intention to research.

The 1944 one was basically a test flight for the system, but the US took one home in 1946 and launched it from White Sands with a camera on it, resulting in the first pictures of the earth from space (as in technically above the Karman line):

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Looks like they saved it by flooding the fuel tanks

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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certainly what every healthy and cognitively intact leader considers doing

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Smiling Jack posted:

Expanse S4 dropped a day early

Bezos being like "gently caress that's brutal, give them some of that space poo poo with the badass frogvoice lady"

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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MA-Horus posted:

How dare you insult shoreh asgaladoo

How dare you

did I not say badass

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Before you all get too drunk and despondent to read, keep in mind there's like a dozen factors unique to the UK that were pushing on that election, not least the fact that Labour itself was a party fracturing at the seams over brexit yet managed to pick as leader a guy that was not all that well liked even before the media started beating him with the ugly stick. Minor parties in the US are thoroughly ephemeral balls of vapor compared to the spoiler effect brexit leveraged against labour specifically. Corbyn's favorability is like -40 not including how people feel about him tonight. Bernie is like -3. The rest of the likely Dem field is less favorable than Bernie but still more than 20 points north of Corbyn. People voted on Corbyn, according what's coming out of the UK. That's not going on here for anyone other than Trump, and it's already flipped the house plus a bunch of state legislatures. The media's far more balkanized here and an attempt to smear Bernie won't go anywhere near as far.

I ain't guaranteeing a bernie nomination or even a win, but if people are thinking Corbyn is a Bernie analogue, he's not, Labour is a radically different beast from the Dems, and Boris isn't in the midst of an impeachment which last I checked was enjoying a slim majority in public support.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Chichevache posted:

Why you gotta be levelheaded and reasonable when people are competing to have the most Chicken Little take?

because I checked out of cspam for a reason and it wasn't to find the same mopey horseshit elsewhere.

yeah it loving sucks what's going down in the UK but look, they elected a guy named dick holden



if you can't lol at a tory named dick holden then you should drink more and check back

E: three of the top 4 in that race have dick joke names c'mon just give yourself a 10 count for stupid laughter

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Smiling Jack posted:

Both the Scottish nationalist and Northern Ireland Unionist (union with the Irish republic) parties picked up seats so that's gonna be fun.

SNP and Sein Fein.

This too, there's not-insignificant odds that NI and Scotland peace out and leave the UK as just england and Wales, and gently caress maybe in a couple elections Wales fucks off too. That probably won't destroy the Tories as a party but it will almost certainly kick them in the teeth.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Dec 13, 2019

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Godholio posted:

They should team up and form the United Kingdom of Scotland and Wales, and join the EU.

Who'd be their monarch?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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BUG JUG posted:

i'm about 90% sure there's still a stuart kicking around somewhere. That person.

I want to say that one is German.

Not sure how big the Scots and Welsh would be on that.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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BUG JUG posted:

how would it be any different than the House of HannoverWindsor?

well they have a choice this time

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Fragrag posted:

How is Brexit still so wildly popular after all these years of being a shitshow? It’s a pandora’s box that they can close up to a point.

It's been so heavily marketed it's become a unicorn for a lot of people. They see what they want to see in it and are very interested in the outcome they believe awaits them.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Hot Karl Marx posted:

what outcome? going bankrupt from medical emergencies after letting the US get its grubby fingers all over the NHS?

jobs coming back and wages going up
closing the borders and purging the country of immigrants
breaking free of perfidious brussels and heralding in socialist utopia

quote:

the outcome they believe awaits them

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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tories look efficient as hell if you ignore the fact that two other parties were doing half the work for them

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