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Oat milk? The hell is oat milk? How do you milk oats?
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best bale posted:Is that area walkable? If not, that’s an easy “no don’t do it” Hell no it's Houston. Menil Collection is a great little museum. Check it out if you haven't.
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Tindahbawx posted:Oat milk? The hell is oat milk? How do you milk oats? When you squeeze something hard enough, sometimes unexpected things can happen
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Tindahbawx posted:Oat milk? The hell is oat milk? How do you milk oats? oats have very tiny nipples everything has nipples if you think about it
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Tom Gorman posted:oats have very tiny nipples
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Open a much cheaper coffee shop. Skip all the bullshit, no milks, no sugars. Only sell black coffee, it's the best way to have it anyway. The expensive ingredients in coffee special drinks will just drag you down. Another great way to keep costs down would be to be the only worker. Renting out a shop space is a risky move, but if you find room for a bed in the back rooms you can just live there and save on your personal rent.
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Shamino posted:I've been unemployed since January and am trying to figure out my next career move. I have a lead on a spot in a lovely part of town for $900/mo and figure it'll cost me about $20,000 all in to get the place open, which is about 90% of the savings I have left. It's near a busy intersection and an office park so there is plenty of vehicle traffic. If I can do even 200 drinks/day (just 25/hr assuming I'm open from 5-2) it'd take care of all my bills and then some. Are you renting a space that can be turned into a coffee shop for basically 0 dollars? You’d be lucky to get millwork and appliances for $20,000, let alone any sort of electrical, plumbing, or hvac work. A basic electrical buildout for a coffee shop is $20k+ by itself. Figure $500 for a dedicated circuit for each appliance with a GFI breaker (more for espresso machine and coffee brewer, as these draw lots of power), $150 per light installed (minimum, includes emergency lighting and exit signs), $500-700 to wire up the water heater, $$$ if you have a lighted sign, etc etc Pivotal Lever fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Dec 12, 2019 |
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Dec 12, 2019 03:57
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I have a coffee shop, roastery, and am opening a second, ama about not making money
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Khanstant posted:Open a much cheaper coffee shop. Skip all the bullshit, no milks, no sugars. Only sell black coffee, it's the best way to have it anyway. The expensive ingredients in coffee special drinks will just drag you down. Another great way to keep costs down would be to be the only worker. Renting out a shop space is a risky move, but if you find room for a bed in the back rooms you can just live there and save on your personal rent. Definitely don't do this
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Khanstant posted:Open a much cheaper coffee shop. Skip all the bullshit, no milks, no sugars. Only sell black coffee, it's the best way to have it anyway. The expensive ingredients in coffee special drinks will just drag you down. Another great way to keep costs down would be to be the only worker. Renting out a shop space is a risky move, but if you find room for a bed in the back rooms you can just live there and save on your personal rent. Dont even rent a space at all. Too much upkeep. Just stand on a corner and sell coffee. Come to think of it cut out that last expense and cut out the middleman and just ask people for money instead of trying to sell them anything.
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Khanstant posted:Open a much cheaper coffee shop. Skip all the bullshit, no milks, no sugars. Only sell black coffee, it's the best way to have it anyway. The expensive ingredients in coffee special drinks will just drag you down. Another great way to keep costs down would be to be the only worker. Renting out a shop space is a risky move, but if you find room for a bed in the back rooms you can just live there and save on your personal rent.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Dont even rent a space at all. Too much upkeep. Just stand on a corner and sell coffee. Come to think of it cut out that last expense and cut out the middleman and just ask people for money instead of trying to sell them anything. Nathan For You had the right idea with the mobile suit for selling chili 
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Resting Lich Face posted:Hell no it's Houston. Houston? that's a hard NO
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It sounds like margins would be so slim that if another coffee shop opened nearby you'd be hosed.
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Pivotal Lever posted:Are you renting a space that can be turned into a coffee shop for basically 0 dollars? You’d be lucky to get millwork and appliances for $20,000, let alone any sort of electrical, plumbing, or hvac work. sounds like op should scrap the coffee shop idea and go into business wiring up other coffee shops instead
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snuggle baby luvs hugs posted:I have a coffee shop, roastery, and am opening a second, ama about not making money Please tell me about making money with coffeeshop profits dot com
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Dec 12, 2019 04:56
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Good wifi too. Coffee shops are really just you renting a space to use the internet without being as alone as you are in your tiny apartment
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snuggle baby luvs hugs posted:I have a coffee shop, roastery, and am opening a second, ama about not making money Have you tried standing on the street corner and just asking people for money?
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Dec 12, 2019 04:59
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You should start a kickstarter! We would totally support you and everything. I'll talk to my kids tomorrow about maybe not doing Christmas this year.
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Dec 12, 2019 04:59
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Pivotal Lever posted:Are you renting a space that can be turned into a coffee shop for basically 0 dollars? You’d be lucky to get millwork and appliances for $20,000, let alone any sort of electrical, plumbing, or hvac work. The space is mostly finished, I'm not too sure what it was before but all I'd really need to do is install counter space and a grease trap. I was quoted $4000 to do 100% of the plumbing work and $2500 for electrical. I was a stagehand and set carpenter during high school and briefly during college so I can do 99% of the carpentry myself. Appliances (like under sink fridges, etc) and actual furniture are shockingly cheap second hand.
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Shamino posted:The space is mostly finished, I'm not too sure what it was before but all I'd really need to do is install counter space and a grease trap. I was quoted $4000 to do 100% of the plumbing work and $2500 for electrical. I was a stagehand and set carpenter during high school and briefly during college so I can do 99% of the carpentry myself. Appliances (like under sink fridges, etc) and actual furniture are shockingly cheap second hand. Lol this is the second time you’ve brought up high school experience iirc. Dude your funny as poo poo. 
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Dec 12, 2019 05:09
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Please set up a crowd funding page op. I want to ruin my family's christmas with ersatz mocha altruism
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Dec 12, 2019 05:20
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I don't know anything about business but yeah do it
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Dec 12, 2019 06:06
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you need variety. up to 1/4 people are picky eaters. you talking about only needing to sell 25 an hour makes me think your going to try to sell one size of drink. you need portion variety.
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EA Sports posted:you need variety. up to 1/4 people are picky eaters. you talking about only needing to sell 25 an hour makes me think your going to try to sell one size of drink. you need portion variety.
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As a serious reply it sounds cool OP and might work out but you don’t have enough money consider a partner I guess, I don’t know coffee or coffee shops I couldn’t comment on margins Joke reply, open on of those lingerie drive thru coffee places they have in Seattle there are tons of creepy men willing to throw money at lovely coffee to see a mostly naked woman
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Dec 12, 2019 06:22
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gently caress it, just do it. You'll probably end up losing all your money and becoming horribly jaded, but you'll learn extremely valuable lessons about yourself and how capricious the public can be. And hey, you might just succeed anyway.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:39
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Shamino posted:I could potentially pull the entirety of my 401k or load myself up with a ton of credit card debt to get the doors open if the 20k doesn't cover things. I have a friend who's an interior designer who's promised to help me get things painted/decorated etc. I do think the area is clamoring for a third space and I've budgeted about $40k/yr for a barista/helper so I should be okay as far as hitting me 25 orders/hr metric. if you try to resort to credit card debt you will fail 100%. There is like a zero % chance you'll be able to stay above water on the interest payments cutting this as close as you already are. If you can't get a business loan take it as a sign that this isn't going to work out.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:41
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Burt Sexual posted:Lol this is the second time you’ve brought up high school experience iirc. Dude your funny as poo poo. Burt you're very optimistic of the savvy for small business owners
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Dec 12, 2019 06:54
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Shamino posted:I like black coffee, flat whites sometimes and an iced oat milk and honey latte during the summer. If anything your overqualified. Go for it Op.
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You should expect no profit for like 2 years in most businesses. I see no reason why yours would be an exception. Have fun being homeless, business goon
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https://www.crimsoncup.com/coffee/how-much-does-it-cost-to-open-a-coffee-shopquote:Open a Coffee kiosk/Coffee stand: $60,000 to $100,000 Might be seriously under estimating those start up costs. Also if you are having to ask goons advice about important, life altering decisions, best to go with no.
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Hello yes I would like a coffee but I need it fast because I am a busy man with trendy tastes and it better be good here look I have an iphone
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Dec 12, 2019 08:21
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Honky Dong Country posted:Hello yes I would like a coffee but I need it fast because I am a busy man with trendy tastes and it better be good here look I have an iphone Coffee in urethra
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Dec 12, 2019 08:21
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Coffee in urethra I am okay with this.
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Honky Dong Country posted:I am okay with this. Thank u for being a loyal customer
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Thank u for being a loyal customer *nervously jams a dollar bill into a barista's waistband* I-i-is...is this the tip jar?
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Dec 12, 2019 08:29
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bird with big dick posted:Make it one of those beefcake coffee shops where young studs wearing banana hammocks make your coffee and if you tip them a fiver they’ll rub their nuts on the cup lid in fact op, forget the coffee
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Something I don't think you've considered is that you can fill the coffee with amphetamines to give your discounted folgers that extra kick and help to gently encourage repeat customers Build a waffle cart instead and save money by dumpster diving for old furniture to repurpose as the walls of your cart, call it upcycled waffles or something
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this is a lawyer, open the coffee shop
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