font color sea posted:

Life size Sandworms only!

DandyLion posted:

Running a very real risk of reaching our own impending Butlerian Jihad and ending up with no way to watch it though....

Maxwell Lord posted:

That just means the return of physical media, we'll watch things on datatapes and filmbooks.

Capntastic posted:

This is a good Tenet joke because it’s totally backwards

Pascallion posted:

Waterworld: A Live Sea War Spectacular at Universal Studios is better than most movies.

Probably better than the Dune version would be, too, unless they got you high on “spice” somehow.

GORDON posted:

So.... as months and years go by before the movie is released, does it lesson the chances of the second half of the movie getting made? I think I might just be angry if the first movie is good, but all the actors aged and went on to other projects before making the sequel.

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

i'm just saying make a long rear end Dune film and then make the next film Dune Messiah or w/e

Cacator posted:

I'd say the Saracens came out looking pretty good compared to the crusaders in the Kingdom of Heaven extended cut.

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

Comedy option of Copolla because Redux is so long it makes the viewer feel like they're going crazy just like Lance

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

Yeah, iirc the studio wanted to say in marketing that they had alternate cuts for all of the Allen movies in their big megabox collection, and offered Scott a (presumably large) amount of money to just gently caress around for a bit and make a different cut they could use.

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

no way in hell..


it's Alien > Alien^3>Aliens>Prometheus>Alien Resurrection>Alien Covenant

feedmyleg posted:

Yeah, better than Aliens but not Alien for sure.

phasmid posted:

Alien 3 is proof that David Fincher is a better director than Scotty Riddle.

Bugblatter posted:

Well, he didn’t say Fincher is better than Cameron. So he might not.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

i like Alien 3 better than like 95% of this subforum and even i wouldn't go that far

it's only the second-best Alien movie after Prometheus, after all

feedmyleg posted:

I think that graphic was made before Covenant, but if it were in the list I'd put it above Resurrection. Covenant has a lot of really interesting stuff going on but it's a mess—just like Resurrection. But it has David which for sure gives it the edge. I feel like Isolation would fit between the two on my list.

Though yeah Covenant deserves a rewatch from me. It was a weird expectations thing for me the first time around.

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

The machines in The Matrix are three laws compliant and the system is the result of an extremely convoluted chain of logical leaps to punish humanity for attempting to genocide robots without actually breaking them.

FBS posted:

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

i wish they'd just release one massive epic film instead of a two parter.

TheOmegaWalrus posted:

Men are meat.

RestingB1tchFace posted:

No matter how many times I watch Lynch's Dune....I'll never quit being amazed it. Mostly by how Lynch was given a major budget to create a movie (that very often looked like it had no budget) which would be impossible to follow by anyone who's never read the book. Insert the goofy inner dialogues and the extremely jarring cuts....and you have to wonder if any of this was on purpose. Not to mention the world making GBS threads space worm.

kaworu posted:

I feel like there's a masterpiece somewhere in that film, and you can see glimmers of it here and there. And it's exciting and awesome because you know you're watching a filmmaker shoot for the moon - and ultimately miss. But it's a pretty goddamn magnificent failure.

I feel like Lynch wanted to make some kind of sci-fi Lawrence of Arabia, and the studio wanted a by-the-numbers Star Wars-esque money-maker. It's a shame we'll never really know what Lynch's real vision for that film would have looked like.

Chairman Capone posted:

I think Children of Dune is a step up. Also one of the first roles for James McAvoy.

david_a posted:

I watched the “Dune alternate edition redux” aka the Spicediver fan edit of Dune 1984 last night. There were a few awkward moments because he didn’t have any footage to work with (one moment that stood out was the beginnings of the Harkonnen attack) but overall it felt pretty coherent. The picture quality was godawful; I didn’t realize it was SD-only because some of the footage isn’t available in HD and YouTube didn’t do it any favors.

It kinda made me tempted to buy that upcoming Dune 4K but I can’t remember the last time I watched the theatrical cut. It’s possible I’ve only previously seen the extended cut, and even that was years ago last. It’s a shame Lynch refuses to touch it anymore because there is clearly enough material for an “official” improved cut.

Maybe it’s because I recently watched Flash Gordon, but some of the production design felt similar. The clunky spaceships & aerial vehicles especially have some of that same vibe and both have some pretty baroque interiors. The shoddy compositing in Dune is also an unintentional callback… (seriously, how did parts of this movie end up looking so cheap?)

Even with a three-hour cut there were parts that felt really compressed. Paul turning into a Fremen and going all Lawrence of Arabia was very stunted. I just don’t know how you could have done better in a single movie without radically simplifying the beginning; there’s just too much stuff to cover for a single movie.

david_a posted:

Maybe it’s because I recently watched Flash Gordon, but some of the production design felt similar. The clunky spaceships & aerial vehicles especially have some of that same vibe and both have some pretty baroque interiors. The shoddy compositing in Dune is also an unintentional callback… (seriously, how did parts of this movie end up looking so cheap?)

phasmid posted:

Ming went into hiding but Rabban found him. Then Shaddam cut off Rabban's head because he had seen too much.

Mike N Eich posted:

We watched the Lynch Dune movie last night for the first time in maybe 20 years for me. It's certainly has its problems, but not without its own charm. I enjoyed myself quite a bit, though that may have been 90% art direction and world building, as the meat and potatoes of the film are not exactly up to snuff.

One thing made me feel like I was experiencing the Mandela Effect though - I distinctly remembered seeing a scene where Paul was challenged by a Fremen to a knife duel, and Paul kills him and was then pledged that man's rations of water for the rest of his life. This wasn't in the version I saw and it drove me mad, until I went to youtube and realized it was a deleted scene likely inserted in the TNT versions of the film I saw in bits and pieces on TV. (Though the water part wasn't in any scene I could find, I may have just imagined that.)

david_a posted:

That’s true for like 1/4 of that fan cut though

Payndz posted:

Mention of the Butlerian Jihad made me think: it's been a long time since I read past the first book (think I got as far as God-Emperor in my teens), but is Ix the only known world that isn't a feudal nightmare run by warring aristocrats or conquered by brutal religious fanatics? I remember thinking it sounded like the only planet where I might remotely want to live; is there a catch?

u brexit ukip it posted:

"Light your palm trees on fire" hate it, or "eternal vendetta against your entire family" hate it?

Jewmanji posted:

I never understand where this notion that Dune has to look totally extravagant comes from. It’s not in the text. Lynch and Jodorowsky both took the fairly sparse physical descriptions and ran wild, but it’s not some great act of apostasy to render the visuals in a more subdued fashion. There’s plenty of striking visuals in the trailers, it just doesn’t smack you in the face with colors.

One of the earlier descriptions in the book is a globe of Arrakis that the Baron has. It sounds utterly antiquated and lacking any wild sci-fi imagery- it has very fine gold inlay for the latitude and longitude markers. That’s it. And yet if it was in the movie people would be like, “boring!!!”.

The book takes place in a stark desert and inside of caves. I never picture Lynchian stuff.

phasmid posted:

Salty Star Wars nerds trying to distract ppl from how their trilogy is just Dune but with less plot and more muppets. May the tooth be with you.

Anne Frank Funk posted:

Look up people with dark eyeball tattoos. That’s how it would read on the screen, dark blue, even full black eyes in dark scenes. Very alien and unrelatable which is not something you want out of half your cast probably.

Xealot posted:

I imagine a lot, there's obviously a ton of plot similarity between it and Dune.

Though also, blues and greens figure into a lot of Islamic art, and I could see that being at least partially because those colors contrast with the natural environment in much of the Arabian peninsula. Mosques and other institutions becoming these blue/green oases makes a ton of sense for religious purposes; these colors otherwise evoke lush plant life or the sky itself. There'd be something transformative about those spaces, and something eye-catching about people wearing garments or accessories in those colors. I could easily see that developing mystical or holy associations in Islam going forward, and that feels like the kind of visual detail Frank Herbert would've run with when writing these books.

deoju posted:

Africa.

Fun fact: One of the dudes from Toto is the son of the legendary composer John Williams.

Jewmanji posted:

The glossary is good and helpful, are you seriously ragging on the glossary?

DarkSol posted:

Of course he was, in multiple ways, in fact. After all he was Paul's grandfather (thus providing part of the genetic bloodline for the Bene Gesserit to get their Kwisatz Haderach) and the long standing feud between the Atreides and the Harkonnens was the perfect cover for the Emperor to get rid of Duke Leto. The Emperor would have eventually had to get rid of him (or his heir), just like he got rid of Leto, since the Baron had eyes for the Imperial Throne.

Blood Boils posted:

Can't put a price on kanly

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Call them dicks and when they land stick a potato in their exhaust port