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the jedi were cool in concept as this vague mysterious legend about space wizards that used to exist but they're all dead except for an elderly troll doll and that one scary bad guy. everything star wars does where jedi fully exist and are on screen doing dumb force poo poo and waving light sabers around is horribly lame. the more we learn about them the worse it gets. the original trilogy is great, there's really no jedi in it. yoda is too old to jump around and do force poo poo, obi wan is old and dies, luke does maybe one or two subtle force things but he doesn't finish his training to become fully lame. this is the correct amount of jedi the prequel trilogy is the worst, it has gently caress tons of jedi in it. it's awful and lame and everything the dumbass jedi do is embarrassing the sequel trilogy has more jedi poo poo in it than the original trilogy, less than the prequels. it's in the middle but still too much jedi. the mandalorian has no jedi. it's great the jedi need to die so star wars can live. say no to jedi
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Correct. The Sith are the best part though.
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But yeah I did like the original trilogy’s presentation of them as just being like these weird mystic monks who were considered wise and whose spiritual powers also happened to help them in combat, compared to the prequels where they’re basically just superheroes that occasionally say some spiritual-sounding stuff.
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El Generico posted:the jedi were cool in concept as this vague mysterious legend about space wizards that used to exist but they're all dead except for an elderly troll doll and that one scary bad guy. everything star wars does where jedi fully exist and are on screen doing dumb force poo poo and waving light sabers around is horribly lame. the more we learn about them the worse it gets. this is kreia's philosophy. the force is an evil thing that twists the universe to suit its narrative convenience. only when the galaxy is broken free from reliance on a mystical crutch will things be good. this is a metaphor for crafting star wars stories. overreliance on the force gives a contrived feeling to the story, divorcing the audience from the feeling that the galaxy is a real place. star wars was originally acclaimed for the dirtiness of its sets - the lived-in feeling of its universe in comparison to the sterile futurism of star trek or buck rogers. too much force ruins that. plus the prequels really fully embrace that same sterile futurism that the original trilogy avoided Jazerus fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 22, 2020 |
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Jan 22, 2020 02:21
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the jedi loving suck i hate them
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Jan 22, 2020 02:54
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literally everything bad that happens is their fault somehow
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Jan 22, 2020 02:54
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Luke spending most of TLJ talking about how the Jedi suck and are lame was cool and thematically-appropriate, even though I generally like the Force stuff in SW more than the non-Force stuff.
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Jan 22, 2020 03:12
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C-Euro posted:Luke spending most of TLJ talking about how the Jedi suck and are lame was cool and thematically-appropriate, even though I generally like the Force stuff in SW more than the non-Force stuff. same
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Jan 22, 2020 03:14
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jedi in fallen order is kinda cool imo, oppressed jedi can make for good stories
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C-Euro posted:Luke spending most of TLJ talking about how the Jedi suck and are lame was cool and thematically-appropriate, even though I generally like the Force stuff in SW more than the non-Force stuff. no that ruined everything about star war and killed my child hood!!! luke is cool and aweome and my friend and im gonna make him kick your ay-ess-ess!!! RUIN JOHNSON you loving FUCKER!!!!!!!
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Jan 22, 2020 03:15
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Yeah seriously I LOVE the luminous beings are we speech But even without the prequels, no one wants mystic, mysterious, low powered Jedi or at least could not write them.
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Jan 22, 2020 03:17
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Yoda in prequels: *flips around really fast*
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Jan 22, 2020 03:17
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personally i like that the jedi are mostly just idiots and losers, being an idiot loser myself
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Jan 22, 2020 03:19
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Pick posted:Yoda in prequels: *flips around really fast* That actually owned.
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:Correct. The Sith are the best part though. sith are just jedi that shop at hot topic
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StashAugustine posted:sith are just jedi that shop at hot topic Yeah. That’s why they’re loving cool.
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I agree with the OP in its entirety. OP, please don't edit the OP such that this comes back to bite me.
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Jan 22, 2020 03:57
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Rat-tail wearing motherfuckers. Don't trust anyone that raises kids to wear rat-tails. loving nasty.
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Criminal that we never get a good look at Sheev’s GIR backpack
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Jan 22, 2020 03:59
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I want to KILL ALL THE JEDI!!!
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Jan 22, 2020 04:17
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100 degrees Calcium posted:I want to KILL ALL THE JEDI!!! Would you say that they are evil from your point of view
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Jan 22, 2020 04:18
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Pick posted:Yoda in prequels: *flips around really fast* This was so awful
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Jan 22, 2020 04:20
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skasion posted:Would you say that they are evil from your point of view Yeah, especially the drat younglings.
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StashAugustine posted:sith are just jedi that shop at hot topic they also get to laugh while saying the dark side over and over again. they got the better deal.
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kotor 2 is the best star wars story but its probably not a coincidence that all of the jedi are dead and the message is that maybe that's a good thing if you're writing a star wars make sure there's not more than like 5, maybe 6 jedi in the whole galaxy. that seems to be a good idea.
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really queer Christmas posted:they also get to laugh while saying the dark side over and over again. they got the better deal. Also they can bone down without everyone shaming them about it Kids had by darksiders: 3 Kids had by Jedis: 0
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Jan 22, 2020 04:23
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Actually the jedi are cool af, and the saber twirling in the prequels owns. I find it interesting that the ST affirms Kreias view of the force, there's a cycle where a dark jedi rises to overthrow the jedi and then a light jedi returns to "restore order". The Jedi and sith have caused destruction on an untold scale because of what amounts to religious doctrine according to that theory, so it seemed weird to make it canon because it does not reflect well on the jedi at all.
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Jan 22, 2020 04:26
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Jedi and the Force ARE Star Wars. Without that you just have generic Space Opera malarkey
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Jan 22, 2020 04:33
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bullshit jk 2/3 owned how do you explain that?
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Homeless Friend posted:bullshit jk 2/3 owned how do you explain that? I don’t know what that is
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Jan 22, 2020 04:36
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I killed them all. The women and the children.
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sponges posted:Jedi and the Force ARE Star Wars. Without that you just have generic Space Opera maclunky Fixed
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McCloud posted:Actually the jedi are cool af, and the saber twirling in the prequels owns. the jedi are stupid and their religion is kind of insane, they only look good in comparison to the sith because the sith are all full blown space hitlers the jedi thing is to basically just take people with psychic powers and go "just like, don't have emotions, man". maybe the sith wouldn't all be such space hitlers if they weren't all coasting off of years of continuously repressed rage. they also thought that "bringing balance to the force", in a situation where there were hundreds of light guys and exactly 2 dark guys, would be beneficial to them
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the jedi/sith are really bland in the movies but i like how theyre handled in a lot of the expanded universe stuff that disney hates none of the movies truly delve into how much both the jedi/sith suck (except the prequels kinda) but a lot of the games and books gently caress with it
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El Generico posted:the jedi were cool in concept as this vague mysterious legend about space wizards that used to exist but they're all dead except for an elderly troll doll and that one scary bad guy. everything star wars does where jedi fully exist and are on screen doing dumb force poo poo and waving light sabers around is horribly lame. the more we learn about them the worse it gets. Agreed, but Lightsabers are also the best part of Star Wars
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The point of Star Wars is lightsabers All things Star Wars exist for lightsabers
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Doublestep posted:the jedi/sith are really bland in the movies but i like how theyre handled in a lot of the expanded universe stuff that disney hates The Clone Wars cartoon dives into the Jedi doing a bunch of shiiitty things (one Jedi leading dozens of clones to their deaths pointlessly to be a poo poo before he defects) and basically very strongly implies they're digging their own graves slowly through a lot of stupid actions, like not believing a Padawan when accused of a bombing and trying to play it off as their Jedi test to be a knight when they're found not guilty to which they pretty much say "gently caress off".
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