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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

I mean, the States have sloooowly been slipping there - McCarthy, Nixon and Reagan being beacons in that regard. But even with Trump in play, the States are salvageable.

The vast number of schmucks screaming about America being the great satan are either in a gently caress you dad state of mind, or furiously masturbating over fantasies where they're finally the ones holding the whip.

edit: And by vast number I mean D&D/C-SPAM/Twitter brigades. I've never heard anyone discuss the political landscape of the states irl outside some meth-head on a bus.

WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 26, 2020

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Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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WarpedNaba posted:

I mean, the States have sloooowly been slipping there - McCarthy, Nixon and Reagan being beacons in that regard. But even with Trump in play, the States are salvageable.

The mere existence of leaders who had authoritarian inclinations or desires doesn't make for an authoritarian state when every one of them were either removed by the democratic process or by term limits.

Like, claiming that you're in the same boat as someone in China or Russia or Iran or Saudi Arabia in terms of your civil liberties because a dumb rear end in a top hat won the most recent federal election is so sheltered it's crazy and I'm getting real tired of Goons unintentionally trivializing actual authoritarianism for the sake of a joke that is already tired and predictable.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010


But the US healthcare system is so bad. That's what authoritarianism is, right?

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Well, I did say slowly. It's not there yet, and I don't see it hitting that button in the near future even with the current trend.

But if that trend persists...

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012



Authoritarian with American characteristics

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?




The problem is authoritarian is too broad a category. The US is an increasingly hosed and unfree system, but in a different way than China is.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

A DAILY DOSE
OF OLD SHOOTERS


PLAY NOW MY LORD



WarpedNaba posted:

Well, I did say slowly. It's not there yet, and I don't see it hitting that button in the near future even with the current trend.

But if that trend persists...

Yeah, this is the thing with America. We're not there yet. But the seeds have absolutely been planted and watered, and if we're not vigilant, we will end up absolutely as bad as somewhere like China or Saudi Arabia.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011


WarpedNaba posted:


edit: And by vast number I mean D&D/C-SPAM/Twitter brigades. I've never heard anyone discuss the political landscape of the states irl outside some meth-head on a bus.

It's been a frequent topic at work since we all have US work visas and our managers are desperate to get us back down there, and none of us want to go because the place is hosed in ways which only become apparent to Canadians after living there for a few weeks straight.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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Canadian discourse on US politics is pretty much universally smug condescension, and to be fair that's not surprising when 100% of Americans seem to be convinced that they live in a despotic hellscape, a notion that you'd think would be easily countered by the fact that they can loudly complain about politics without getting shot or arbitrarily imprisoned

The fact that an organized opposition exists at all is one of the things that makes comparisons between the USA and authoritarian regimes utterly hyperbolic to the point that they're gross

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018



It's ivory tower syndrome. People have a hard time understanding just how good they have it here. They get caught up in the negatives and start to actually believe going into debt is comparable to having your organs harvested in a remote corner of the Gobi desert because they did an innocuous Xi Jinping impression on Douyin.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020


The beaver is going to cuck for the dragon, or the eagle.

I am sure this comic has been drawn already.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!


Fojar38 posted:

Canadian discourse on US politics is pretty much universally smug condescension, and to be fair that's not surprising when 100% of Americans seem to be convinced that they live in a despotic hellscape, a notion that you'd think would be easily countered by the fact that they can loudly complain about politics without getting shot or arbitrarily imprisoned

The fact that an organized opposition exists at all is one of the things that makes comparisons between the USA and authoritarian regimes utterly hyperbolic to the point that they're gross

republicans and democrats are not opposition.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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Of course, just because they both have wildly different policies and spend an insane amount of resources opposing each other doesn't make them "opposition" because neither advocates for Full Communism Now.

Your political views not being mainstream doesn't mean that you live in an authoritarian state.

Go away

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ


Fojar38 posted:

Of course, just because they both have wildly different policies

Oh come on, you're laying it on too thick now

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

It doesn't matter who hurt you, or broke you down, what matters is who made you smile again.

Fojar38 posted:

My larger concern is that if the CCP lucks out and gets a favorable court ruling they are guaranteed to take all the wrong lessons from it

What is this word "learning"?.

WarpedNaba posted:

I mean, the States have sloooowly been slipping there - McCarthy, Nixon and Reagan being beacons in that regard. But even with Trump in play, the States are salvageable.

The vast number of schmucks screaming about America being the great satan are either in a gently caress you dad state of mind, or furiously masturbating over fantasies where they're finally the ones holding the whip.

edit: And by vast number I mean D&D/C-SPAM/Twitter brigades. I've never heard anyone discuss the political landscape of the states irl outside some meth-head on a bus.

I still have some optimism that the US will pull up.

Also this:

Grand Fromage posted:

The problem is authoritarian is too broad a category. The US is an increasingly hosed and unfree system, but in a different way than China is.

Dont Touch ME posted:

It's ivory tower syndrome. People have a hard time understanding just how good they have it here. They get caught up in the negatives and start to actually believe going into debt is comparable to having your organs harvested in a remote corner of the Gobi desert because they did an innocuous Xi Jinping impression on Douyin.

The greatest irony is 50% vote Face Eating Leopard party and blame the Liberal "Left" for getting their face eaten. It's almost impossible not to be condescending when looking from the outside. America's problems have very obvious solutions and its frustrating as hell seeing people die so pointlessly.

There are no Americans outside of the US, only Canadians.

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

republicans and democrats are not opposition.

This belief means you will continue to be hosed. Learn to vote.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm."

John Stamos

Upset Trowel

are these people trying to poo poo up the good china thread again?

Horatius Bonar
Sep 8, 2011



hakimashou posted:

are these people trying to poo poo up the good china thread again?

We're good here, Fojar just had a time in the bad China thread. Which to be fair I do too from time to time when genocide denial raises its head. Or need to make a dick joke. But usually I'm happy to let it sink back down to the second page.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012



hakimashou posted:

are these people trying to poo poo up the good china thread again?

Does a bear poo in the woods?

Shumagorath
Jun 5, 2001


Fojar38 posted:

Of course, just because they both have wildly different policies and spend an insane amount of resources opposing each other doesn't make them "opposition" because neither advocates for Full Communism Now.

Your political views not being mainstream doesn't mean that you live in an authoritarian state.

Go away
Part of me wants to think that the judiciary in this country is still really good and will know fraud when they see it regardless of idiotic sanction / JCPOA arguments (of which we were not a signatory?) but the other part knows we're extremely soft on money laundering on the law enforcement side and maybe just as bad on prosecution.

Either way, gently caress Huawei and gently caress the communist party, free Michaels.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!


oohhboy posted:

This belief means you will continue to be hosed. Learn to vote.

tried voting, didn't work. next step is Landlord Massacre

Chomp8645
Sep 1, 2006

Vvardenfell awaits.



PHIZ KALIFA posted:

tried voting, didn't work. next step is Landlord Massacre

Seconded.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

It doesn't matter who hurt you, or broke you down, what matters is who made you smile again.

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

tried voting, didn't work. next step is Landlord Massacre

Learn to vote.

oohhboy fucked around with this message at 05:32 on May 27, 2020

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!


vote local and state, guillotine everything else

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


I ate leftover rice today and now thanks to this thread every time I do I have to ask myself if this is it, this is the time leftover rice does me in.

Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 07:03 on May 27, 2020

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!


oohhboy posted:

Learn to vote.

gonna learn how to crawl up your nose and pilot your swim shirt body like a doughy gundam.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

av paid for by the firensd of lowtax spine foundation

, you flithy pig


YouTube is deleting comments with phrases that insult China’s Communist Party

quote:

Comments left under videos or in live streams that contain the words “共匪” (“communist bandit”) or “五毛” (“50-cent party”) are automatically deleted in around 15 seconds, though their English language translations and Romanized Pinyin equivalents are not.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

Don't get my name wrong,
If you want to touch me there.

Isn't Youtube blocked in bad China anyways?

I don't fully understand why the CCP tries to censor stuff outside of the mainland. People out here already know that Xi looks like a cartoon bear, that things did happen on June 4, and that the CCP are as poopy as poopy can be. Why waste time trying,(badly and ham handedly) to censor/control the information that non Chinese people receive?

The White Dragon
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!


very often, golden boys are sent to study internationally where they give money to opportunists to write c-minus papers so they can say they graduated from a prestigious public college in montana, or newfoundland

if they were exposed to these ideas while abroad, it might be dangerous, for them, when they return

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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BrigadierSensible posted:

Isn't Youtube blocked in bad China anyways?

I don't fully understand why the CCP tries to censor stuff outside of the mainland. People out here already know that Xi looks like a cartoon bear, that things did happen on June 4, and that the CCP are as poopy as poopy can be. Why waste time trying,(badly and ham handedly) to censor/control the information that non Chinese people receive?

Remember this is the CCP we're talking about, which means insane insecurity and extreme paranoia. They want to control absolutely everything that they practically can, and will never be satisfied with it until they hit sufficient pushback

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


I think it's a very real projection of power. By constantly hounding western nations and companies with these demands, some of it slowly becomes tolerated, and the more is, the more normalized the censorship, and the CCP's abuses more generally, become. These little things add up, imo. It conditions the companies to put up with their BS. And then we get a Blitzchung.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Atlas Hugged posted:

I ate leftover rice today and now thanks to this thread every time I do I have to ask myself if this is it, this is the time leftover rice does me in.

Hello, fellow dead-man-walking. We're soaking rice right now to make Thai sticky rice, and my mind kept coming back to this thread.

Magna Kaser
Nov 4, 2004



youll die from rice but just cuz its all empty carbs and not cuz of bacteria.

it's a good way to die.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Magna Kaser posted:

youll die from rice but just cuz its all empty carbs and not cuz of bacteria.

it's a good way to die.

Will the addition of coconut milk and mango speed up the process? Asking for a friend.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


I had mine with my trademark curry recipe, which also uses coconut milk.

My son hates spicy food most of the time unless the food he is eating happens to be spicy. Then he says, "It's not spicy, it's sour," or some other nonsense justification to explain why he's stealing my lunch. Four year olds are weird.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!


Shadow0 posted:

Will the addition of coconut milk and mango speed up the process? Asking for a friend.

I've almost died from mangoes before, so the answer is definitely yes, your friend is basically dead already.

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

Dont Touch ME posted:

Elemental mercury is actually safe to drink. Your digestive tract does not absorb it in any capacity, it goes in one end and comes out the other. In that context, it is 100% harmless and non-toxic.

What makes elemental mercury dangerous is the vapors. Your lungs are way too happy to pick up the stomach's slack and absorb the evaporated mercury it's constantly putting off at room temperature. A neat long form party trick is to drink mercury while exhaling and not end up with brain damage 20 years later.

It's the mercury salts that get kind of sketchy. But they're still actually really good disinfectants. They found use in medicine for a very long time because killing an infection now was a desirable tradeoff to suffering madness later. Also you can drop your surgical instruments in them for a while and they're perfectly sanitized. Even prions fear the mighty Mercuric (III) Chloride. Just don't breathe when you're rummaging around the closet where you keep it.

If you’re also a slow reader: 1 (800) 222-1222 for poison control. Don’t be like me.

Fun fact about great Satan: Satan often carries connotations of an ‘adversary’ or an obstacle to be overcome, instead of being THE DEVIL in a lot of places, so sometimes when people refer to the US as the great Satan they’re correct given geopolitics.

The North Tower fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 27, 2020

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

Plop

Need fresh new organs, or how about a new assembly line? Put your order in for HK school kids, today!

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Fumble
Sep 4, 2006



The Chinese national anthem is a piece of poo poo!

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