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Not So Fast posted:Yeah, this. It's the basic anti-imperialism that anyone the USA opposes must be good and anything bad about them is US propaganda. Don't tell them about WW2.
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Also on my above point, if the blame everything on fake news from the CIA they don't have to deal with the fact that, while the west isn't great, everywhere else is severely worse. Would you be more comfortable believing a massacre is one of many that your side committed, or that it's made up and never happened?
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The galaxy brain you get studying history is all groups of humans of sufficient size to have a self identity and dehumanize others do horrible poo poo to other people. The only reason particular countries do so much of it is because they have the opportunity. If Norway or whatever was the global hegemon it would be doing awful poo poo instead of the US. Americans aren't special, this applies to both good and bad things.
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Nov 25, 2020 23:23
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*Captain Cook shows up* Hawaiians killed him due to what is believed to be miscommunication. Everyone signs a treaty that is questionably translated resulting in two versions with concepts that the natives don't have. Guns arrive and you get some land wars. Century+ later we are still dealing with the fallout. You don't even have to get into ethnic groups. Office politics and school cliques will do.
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Nov 26, 2020 01:58
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Grand Fromage posted:The galaxy brain you get studying history is all groups of humans of sufficient size to have a self identity and dehumanize others do horrible poo poo to other people. The only reason particular countries do so much of it is because they have the opportunity. If Norway or whatever was the global hegemon it would be doing awful poo poo instead of the US. Americans aren't special, this applies to both good and bad things. Human history is basically, "I think we're stronger than them... Let's find out!"
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Grand Fromage posted:The galaxy brain you get studying history is all groups of humans of sufficient size to have a self identity and dehumanize others do horrible poo poo to other people. The only reason particular countries do so much of it is because they have the opportunity. If Norway or whatever was the global hegemon it would be doing awful poo poo instead of the US. Americans aren't special, this applies to both good and bad things. yeah, hating on america for being the worst country doing the worst things in all of history is p much just american exceptionalism swapping "good" for "bad". not to say that the fuckery that the US does is bad and should be stopped, just that if the US is neutralized someone else is going to fill that fuckery vacuum.
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Flannelette posted:Why? https://twitter.com/mccaffreyr3/status/1188669495386071046?s=20 The PKK also switched from Marxism-Leninism to Democratic Confederalism years ago after their leader read Murray Bookchin's work. Hardcore tankies are suspicious Democratic Confederalism will just revert to capitalism. They claim co-operation with America in seizing the oil is proof that it's already happening. I don't believe that personally, but that's their rationale. The Kurds got screwed in the end because the US used them as cannon fodder and abandoned them again. Now they're being bombed by the Turks and have lost miles of territory. Syria and Russia are furious that they took the oil. ISIS and Turkey have always hated them. Americans are only protecting the oil infrastructure while leaving Rojava to die. Kurds have no immediate way to refine or transport the oil so they're not getting much benefit from it. Short of bombing them, the Trump administration could not have hosed them over harder. Biden was mad when Trump withdrew so maybe he'll stand up to Edrogan. This is also a rare point of agreement between the US and China. China also objected strongly when Turkey started killing the Kurds.
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Grand Fromage posted:The galaxy brain you get studying history is all groups of humans of sufficient size to have a self identity and dehumanize others do horrible poo poo to other people. The only reason particular countries do so much of it is because they have the opportunity. If Norway or whatever was the global hegemon it would be doing awful poo poo instead of the US. Americans aren't special, this applies to both good and bad things. There are no special people, only new depths of sadism reached through the means of new technology. I mean, some people think of the internet, but I'm thinking the invention/economic allowance of ships that let hundreds of people get transported in relatively good time.
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oohhboy posted:*Captain Cook shows up* Hawaiians killed him due to what is believed to be miscommunication. it wasn't a miscommunication he literally abducted a dude's nephew for leverage because we were tired of giving him free lunch. his bones didn't deserve to be sent home
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yaffle posted:I can't find the video but I once watched an interview with an older chinese martial artist talking about different styles of kung fu, he illustrated a point about effectiveness with a clip showing a fight between American and Latin America special forces guys who had, according to him, agreed to a no-holds-barred fight. The yank just poked the other guy in the eye first move and it was all over. Chinese kungfu has never been bushido. if it works it just works, and it's not stupid (or sometimes it is so stupid it just worked. oops?)
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I agree, the US should have continued to support them and intervened further. But what would we expect from Trump, the preferred candidate of our revolutionary, anti Western comrades in Russia?
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Flannelette posted:Don't tell them about WW2. they knew it, just never admitted they are repeating history. do you know CCP claimed they are the one beating Japanese and driving them outta mainland China, but not the US? they also claims it is the Chinese rebellion forces who liberated Hong Kong from Japanese occupation...... and at the same time, almost everyone is turning their blind eye towards their BS in rewriting history itself...... looks familiar huh?
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Grand Fromage posted:The galaxy brain you get studying history is all groups of humans of sufficient size to have a self identity and dehumanize others do horrible poo poo to other people. The only reason particular countries do so much of it is because they have the opportunity. If Norway or whatever was the global hegemon it would be doing awful poo poo instead of the US. Americans aren't special, this applies to both good and bad things. Yeah which leads to two conclusions for leftists 1) all great powers are bad, criticise them equally 2) tie your hitch to the one that sounds the most leftist and hope things get better I think at a fundamental level most tankies are just really desperate for something to go right in the great scheme of things and want to believe the propaganda coming from China
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Zakrello posted:Chinese kungfu has never been bushido. if it works it just works, and it's not stupid (or sometimes it is so stupid it just worked. oops?) Maxim 43: If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky.
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Not So Fast posted:I think at a fundamental level most tankies are just really desperate for something to go right in the great scheme of things and want to believe the propaganda coming from China I think this is the most accurate take. In cyberpunk hellworld the idea that somebody, somewhere is sticking it to their near enemy is appealing.
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peanut posted:lol? If you havent followed it. There s been a push in acedemia to preplace latino for latinx because its a gendered noun. Personally I feel our latino brothers have greater issues than the sexism of their language, and they should be the ones to make such decisions.
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Grand Fromage posted:Part of the left turning into their own qanon really sucks. You just can't participate in left wing politics anymore without being infested by those people and tankies. I hate it. See for example the rapid spread of Epstein murder conspiracies even on this forum among those who profess to be on the left. Often the exact same conspiracies popular among far right extremists
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Lol if you believe Epstein actually killed himself.
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not really seeing why you should expect different theories regarding epstein's suicide/murder to be divided into right and left beliefs
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Not So Fast posted:I think at a fundamental level most tankies are just really desperate for something to go right in the great scheme of things and want to
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LordArgh posted:not really seeing why you should expect different theories regarding epstein's suicide/murder to be divided into right and left beliefs burtsexual and revmoo had a dog in that fight. See Epstein was a friend of the Clintons, so it become a left right issue. If his "Suicide" was real then the us bureau of prisons needs to have over half of their staff fired put into the very prisons they manage. Also a Federal judge handling the Epstein poo poo had her husband killed in a shooting where the gunman was a lawyer who was also found dead. I think on this very forum I read some link to a place that talked about the 1970s and how the CIA used pedo s to get black mail material on assets. Okay to bring this back to china. Its been talked about in these threads how when you dont really have the rule of law and contracts can be broken, you do business by partying with a bunch of prostitutes and filming eachother with them, thus are the bonds of trust established. I have no doubt in the west some similar stuff happens, and might very well be someone like epstein supplied the goods.
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Watch The Mole if you want a glimpse of pure strain tankies. It's all white dudes looking more or less like the dregs of a goonmeet - you can almost smell the room through your screen. The leadership fleecing them alternatively had that same "shifty used car salesman" look I'd compare to Alex Jones and such. There definitely seems to be a type that leans to the extreme ends of the political spectrum. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 26, 2020 |
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I dunno, r guy is actually p good looking iyam
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Ups_rail posted:Also a Federal judge handling the Epstein poo poo had her husband killed in a shooting where the gunman was a lawyer who was also found dead. See this is a worrying trend, because presumably there's no evidence or criminal case around this? But based on poo poo we've read on the internet and on the shitshow that is our media, it's not 'seems to have had him killed' or 'probably had him killed', it is just deemed a cold hard fact that she did it and, and that fact is sent off to fight in internet debates. Full disclosure a) I don't know the case and b) I believe the burden of proof for sex crimes needs to be massively reduced
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Warbadger posted:Watch The Mole if you want a glimpse of pure strain tankies. Seriously though; that series is wild and I recommend it to anyone with a TV.
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The Great Autismo! posted:I dunno, r guy is actually p good looking iyam There are a lot of incels and tankies who are not "scoring" and it has nothing to do with their looks.
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someone catch me up on my internet slang - is "iyam" short for "if you are maoist"
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Ups_rail posted:If you havent followed it. There s been a push in acedemia to preplace latino for latinx because its a gendered noun. the main folks i've heard using latinx are folks that would use that to describe themselves. i'm sure there are some white saviors out there that a pushing too hard (there always are), but let's not presume that's all that's going on or that the latinx/latino/latina community is a monolith.
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Strategic Tea posted:See this is a worrying trend, because presumably there's no evidence or criminal case around this? Sorry I worded that poorly the judge was the target and her husband is the one who caught the bullet. Also it was her son who died and husband lived here is a vice article https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7gyd9/son-of-federal-judge-in-epstein-deutsche-bank-case-shot-dead As for latinx I live on the west cost and more than once have had Mexica's express a desire to be refered to as mexicans. Genered nouns and pronouns are a facet of some languages and not others. Indonesian doesnt have a word for "the" and its kinda cute when speakers mix up he/she because they dont genedered pronouns they basically use a world that means something like "that one" and to make a world pural you just say it twice and in writing you just put a 2 after it. German on the other hand has to loving gender objects like a paint brush for you fence in masculine while a toliet brush is feminine, eh now I wonder what gender tampons are.
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I have no dog in the lantino/latinx fight except I dunno if I should pronounce the latter as Latin-x or latinks
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Julius CSAR posted:I have no dog in the lantino/latinx fight except I dunno if I should pronounce the latter as Latin-x or latinks "Chin-x" on the other hand, sounds like a repellent you spread around your back yard.
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Tupperwarez posted:"Chin-x" on the other hand, sounds like a repellent you spread around your back yard. The joke is that if you pronounce that word phonetically you end up with a racial slur.
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Tupperwarez posted:"Chin-x" on the other hand, sounds like a repellent you spread around your back yard. I love these ads so drat much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ibFq1aup8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3DsdQYU0XY  0:15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zs7D-ZIAc Never had to buy it but if I ever did I can spray and walk away.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Lol if you believe Epstein actually killed himself. There’s no reason to believe that Epstein killed himself. The man had a bright future ahead of himself as a convicted pedophile spending the rest of his life in federal prison.
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The Great Autismo! posted:I dunno, r guy is actually p good looking iyam Did Goyovich ever post a pic or are we operating on the assumption that he’s ian goodrum
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Australia - China Trade War continues with Wine traiffs. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55097100 quote:Its commerce ministry said these were temporary anti-dumping measures to stop subsidised imports of Australian wine. if wine was really that cheap it wouldn't leave the country. Also why would you dump in a country that has no competing industry to kill. No one is going to mistake Biju for grape wine unless it was a forgery(Yes this happened with beer). I am expecting blow back with forgeries and maybe some poisonings.
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did something like that happen with oysters? cant find fresh oysters these days, and all the restaurants are telling me "no oysters, coronavirus" but what kind of sense does that make? never heard of an oyster getting the coronavirus
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Julius CSAR posted:I have no dog in the lantino/latinx fight except I dunno if I should pronounce the latter as Latin-x or latinks
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