Promoted Pawn posted:since we have 2 threads at the moment, crossposting my last post: Sadly, ever since the rank rework and the subsequent HSreplay filter update, the free data from HS Replay is basically meaningless, as it covers only Bronze through Gold games. If it says the same winrates for Diamond-4 to high legend then I'd look into it further, but otherwise my 10-set with the deck was basically praying for the perfect curve or that the opponent didn't do anything, but in a worse way than traditional zoo-esque decks.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2020 20:52 |
Spell Druid update version 25: Due to the current meta where there's a mix of crazy people are still jamming aggro Demon Hunter, luckboxing with Rogue, and drawing perfect board clears with priest, I've had to switch to an Aeroponics build, which is inspired by SilverName's performance with it last weekend: ### Spell Treant # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (0) Innervate # 2x (1) Crystal Power # 2x (2) Fungal Fortunes # 2x (2) Ironbark # 2x (2) Power of the Wild # 2x (3) Bogbeam # 1x (3) Savage Roar # 2x (4) Overgrowth # 1x (4) Soul of the Forest # 2x (5) Aeroponics # 2x (5) Anubisath Defender # 2x (5) Force of Nature # 2x (5) Glowfly Swarm # 1x (5) Starfall # 1x (7) Kael'thas Sunstrider # 2x (7) Overflow # 1x (8) Gift of the Wild # 1x (8) The Forest's Aid # AAECAZICBlb9AuYF05wDsawDrroDDP4B7QP3A7mUA++iA9ulA/ytA+W6A+i6A+y6A+66A++6AwA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Starfall is back until Hunters/DHs stop playing Felwing. edit: Also the Bad Luck Albatross nerf made Exotic Mountseller worse by just enough to shy away from it, so back to Treants. AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 04:57 |
Cuntellectual posted:Has anyone made a dh deck other than tempo and OTK work? OTK doesn't work anymore (and is also a very Johnny deck). There is a control token pew pew list out there, which I saw some of yesterday, but it looked bad.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 05:00 |
Yoked posted:Can someone post a good Murloc paladin list? I was enjoying Pure/Libram for a while but it doesn’t feel so great now. I immediately like vS's list more, but I did like the Toxfins in the meta version. Righteous Cause is a funny card. ### vS Murloc # Class: Paladin # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Imprisoned Sungill # 2x (1) Murloc Tidecaller # 2x (1) Murmy # 2x (1) Righteous Cause # 2x (2) Fishflinger # 2x (2) Hand of A'dal # 1x (2) Murgur Murgurgle # 1x (2) Murloc Tidehunter # 2x (3) Coldlight Seer # 2x (3) Murloc Warleader # 2x (3) Salhet's Pride # 2x (3) Skydiving Instructor # 2x (3) Underlight Angling Rod # 2x (4) Blessing of Kings # 2x (4) Felfin Navigator # 2x (5) Scalelord # AAECAZ8FAtAH/LgDDsUD2wOvB6cIlaYDr6cDyqsDjK0DtLYDyLgDybgD9rgD+7gDysEDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone edit: yea, I'm only 5 games in, but this feels WAAAY better than the Hog version AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 05:27 |
Jeza posted:I'm bored in quarantine and just found Grandmasters on Youtube. Watching this glory guy misplay and get bailed out by RNG every game is pretty cool. Across two separate series against Alutemu. Haven't seen anything like it from a top player from a long time. Nozdormu off Dream Portal is insanely bullshit. I'm stunned GMs are doing it to each other, let alone how it's still in the game.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 14:58 |
a fatguy baldspot posted:i don’t like fishflinger in murloc paladin, mainly i don’t like giving the opponent any cards. it’s screwed me over too many times. the quest is hilarious tho especially with inprisoned sungill This mindset is understandable, but you've got to get over it. Your deck is designed to make the most out of the card while giving the opponent something typically useless to them. Also, if you've never experienced the sweetness of disrupting the opponent's non-obvious Outcast setup, you haven't seen the best of the card.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2020 18:04 |
Finally crafted some Magic Carpets to play Swidz's take on Gallon's DiscoZoo, which is a way more budget-friendly version (no need for Teron + Ebonlocke). And holy poo poo does this deck smash face, it has some really thought-provoking and deep lines of play, all with that classic Zoo feel. Probably because it's like 2 decks mashed together: one where you try to setup unfair tempo with Imprisoned Scrap Imp, and one where you try to generate ridiculous value with Hand of Guldan. Each plan technically works separately and are capable of winning alone, but when the plans align you become a goddamn monster. ### DiscoZoo # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Argent Squire # 2x (1) Beaming Sidekick # 2x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 2x (1) Fiendish Servant # 2x (1) Flame Imp # 1x (1) Guardian Augmerchant # 2x (1) Soulfire # 2x (1) Voidwalker # 2x (2) EVIL Genius # 2x (2) Expired Merchant # 2x (2) Imprisoned Scrap Imp # 2x (2) Serpent Egg # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 2x (3) Magic Carpet # 2x (4) Nightshade Matron # 2x (6) Hand of Gul'dan # AAECAf0GAvyjA96+Aw4w9QXOB8IIiJ0DtZ8D/aQDvaYD/acD+a4DsLYDtbkDtrkDx7kDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2020 22:03 |
Minor update: Finished a 20 set (14-6) with DiscoZoo, found Soulfire stuck in hand a bit too much. Swapping one for another Guardian Augmerchant for now, but it may become a Shieldbearer or Stonetusk Boar depending on the meta. Trump just released a video on this deck, removing Eggs for Ebonlocke and Lorewalker Cho. Both of these cards are awful and actively ruined the deck due to how much you draw on average. ### DiscoZoo # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Argent Squire # 2x (1) Beaming Sidekick # 2x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 2x (1) Fiendish Servant # 2x (1) Flame Imp # 2x (1) Guardian Augmerchant # 1x (1) Soulfire # 2x (1) Voidwalker # 2x (2) EVIL Genius # 2x (2) Expired Merchant # 2x (2) Imprisoned Scrap Imp # 2x (2) Serpent Egg # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 2x (3) Magic Carpet # 2x (4) Nightshade Matron # 2x (6) Hand of Gul'dan # AAECAf0GAs4H/KMDDjD1BcIIiJ0DtZ8D/aQDvaYD/acD+a4DsLYDtbkDtrkDx7kD3r4DAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 08:42 |
There was a pic of a 100,000 legend on China server
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 02:40 |
fanny packrat posted:I played a really similar list and couldn't go anywhere with it. What's your mulligan strategy? I was going hard for the imp; is it better to shoot for the discard/draw combo? Definitely keep/mull for Hand of Guldan as well. I know it feels weird to keep a 6-mana card, but just pretend it's a 0-mana card. If you already have one you can keep Expired Merchant. Depending on matchup you can keep one good 1-drop, otherwise mull everything.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 14:16 |
Toshimo posted:Cool. Is there an easy way for me to export my collection to compare against decklists to see if I'm close dust-wise to anything that would be good enough to hit Diamond? Install Hearthstone Deck Tracker, link to your blizz account, open the game and HDT to sync with HSReplay. When you login to HSreplay with the same blizz account every deck you see will have a personalized dust cost based on your collection, and the cards you're missing will be slightly faded out.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 05:20 |
I found some deep tech for Murloc Paladin that has made games a bit more favorable (and way more hilarious): Never Surrender. It's like a 3rd Coldlight Seer that the opponent can't help but play into. Also Hogsteed is admittedly good enough in the deck. I also really hated drawing more than one Righteous Cause and more than one Consecration, so the list becomes pretty lean: ### Murloc sigh # Class: Paladin # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Imprisoned Sungill # 2x (1) Murloc Tidecaller # 2x (1) Murmy # 1x (1) Never Surrender! # 1x (1) Righteous Cause # 2x (1) Toxfin # 2x (2) Fishflinger # 2x (2) Hand of A'dal # 2x (2) Hench-Clan Hogsteed # 1x (2) Murgur Murgurgle # 2x (2) Murloc Tidehunter # 2x (3) Coldlight Seer # 2x (3) Murloc Warleader # 2x (3) Underlight Angling Rod # 1x (4) Consecration # 2x (4) Felfin Navigator # 2x (5) Scalelord # AAECAZ8FBNwDjpoDjK0D/LgDDcUD2wPQB6cItZgDx50Dr6cDyqsDyLgDybgD9rgD+7gDysEDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone To play you should be aware of the mechanics of dormant minions and how they interact with both the quest and the secret: Righteous Cause only ticks +1 when you play Imprisoned Sungil, but not when it awakens, however it then does +2 when it comes out of dormant for the tokens. This means you can still play Turn 1 Imprisoned, Turn 2 Quest + 1-drop (hopefully Murmy), murmy respawns, then Turn 3 awaken + Coldlight being your 5th minion. As for Never Surrender, the Secret will not proc if the opponent plays a spell and your board only has dormant minions, same as if your board is empty. I think you can see where this is going: when you get both it's the best possible Turn 2 you can do after Turn 1 Imprisoned (or 2x Imprisoned with the coin). https://hsreplay.net/replay/8RccBHoGhJd9aBhjHLQyHY Looking forward to seeing GMs forced to play this deck this weekend
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 05:41 |
victorious posted:Why Consecration over Truesilver? For the Demon Hunter matchup? Yea. You can lose to anyone doing a traditional Zoo curve, such as actual zoo or an early Druid glowfly, or Rogue randomly generated perfect reborn+lackey curve, but feel free to slot in another flex based on what you're seeing in your meta. Also I really want to emphasize that the Murloc Paladin deck is basically worse in every way to DiscoZoo. Speaking of which, Shieldbearer is a great 3rd taunt for the deck now, and I may even cut a Flame Imp for another: ### DiscoZoo # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Argent Squire # 2x (1) Beaming Sidekick # 2x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 2x (1) Fiendish Servant # 2x (1) Flame Imp # 1x (1) Guardian Augmerchant # 1x (1) Shieldbearer # 1x (1) Soulfire # 2x (1) Voidwalker # 2x (2) EVIL Genius # 2x (2) Expired Merchant # 2x (2) Imprisoned Scrap Imp # 2x (2) Serpent Egg # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 2x (3) Magic Carpet # 2x (4) Nightshade Matron # 2x (6) Hand of Gul'dan # AAECAf0GBOIGzgf8owPevgMNMPUFwgiInQO1nwP9pAO9pgP9pwP5rgOwtgO1uQO2uQPHuQMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 07:10 |
Disargeria posted:What do the Dwarven Sharpshooters really do for that deck? Hit for 6 damage to the face because the opponent can't counter with a 3/2 early due to the threat of just losing it.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 07:12 |
Cuntellectual posted:I wonder if paladin is desperate enough for draw to run like, Sahet's Pride and Loot Hoarders. I tried vS's version with Sahet, and the deck felt normal when I didn't draw it and felt awful when I did. The stats backed this up, worst card by far in Drawn and Played win%.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 07:19 |
Scrub-Niggurath posted:Is VS not updating anymore or something? They usually want a week of data, and usually report on Thursday, but the nerfs went down on a Monday (4/20), so last week was skipped and the next report will probably be out in 2 days.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 19:53 |
World War Mammories posted:
They really wanted to make sure that the Outcast mechanic wasn't a flop out of the gate, for obvious marketing and monetary reasons. It's the reason why Twin Slice isn't in Classic, it's in the Initiate set that will rotate out of Standard eventually.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 05:20 |
orangelex44 posted:Skull of Gul'dan is still the most broken loving thing, I am so goddamned sick of games where I'm winning pretty OK until the DH plays Skull into Skull to draw five discounted cards on turn 9. Priest just can't handle that poo poo - I have the tools I need in my deck, but I can't keep up when the other guy goes through 25 cards before turn 10 unless I draw exactly perfectly. It's so loving frustrating, I've been bouncing between diamond 3 and diamond 5 for the last three weeks from this same bullshit. Priest is pretty unfavored in the matchup, but a lot of decks are. I've had success with my DiscoZoo and Face Hunter battling DH's while keeping the win% high vs the field, and I'm starting to get good results with Eggless Warrior. And of course my own take on the deck tweaked for the mirror, 3 of these 4 decks are going to be my lineup for the tournaments this weekend, trying to deny Rogues and DHs from getting wins. Zoo is a work in progress, but I had to cut a Flame Imp because it was doing too much damage to me. The Face Hunter build I found goes all in on making a 5/6 Phase Stalker, which is awesome when on the coin for a Turn 2 5/6 that at least gives you a chance to win. 15-9 (62%) vs DH: 8-3 ### FaceFace # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Arcane Shot # 2x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 2x (1) Dwarven Sharpshooter # 2x (1) Leper Gnome # 2x (1) Toxic Reinforcements # 2x (1) Tracking # 2x (2) Explosive Trap # 2x (2) Kobold Sandtrooper # 1x (2) Pack Tactics # 2x (2) Phase Stalker # 2x (2) Scavenger's Ingenuity # 2x (3) Animal Companion # 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow # 2x (3) Kill Command # 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds # 1x (4) Dragonbane # AAECAR8Ch7ADpLkDDqgCtQPJBJIF7QaXCNsJ/gzzpwP5rgP7rwP8rwOFsAP/ugMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone I haven't finished the reps on Warrior, but I'm playing an eggless version due to not having Teron Gorefiend. It's still very good and is technically classified as "Control Warrior" on HSReplay even though it's still the same deck: ### Eggless # Class: Warrior # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (0) Inner Rage # 2x (1) Risky Skipper # 2x (1) Sky Raider # 2x (2) Armorsmith # 2x (2) Battle Rage # 2x (2) Corsair Cache # 2x (2) Injured Tol'vir # 2x (2) Rampage # 1x (3) Ancharrr # 2x (3) Bloodsworn Mercenary # 2x (3) Bomb Wrangler # 2x (3) Livewire Lance # 2x (3) Warmaul Challenger # 2x (4) Kor'kron Elite # 1x (5) Captain Greenskin # 2x (7) Bloodboil Brute # AAECAQcCyAPerQMOFhyQA9QE1AjSpQP1qAPcqQPdrQOktgOrtgO7uQPAuQOcuwMA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone The flex 30th card can be Captain Greenskin, Grommash, or a budget Dread Corsair. But the deck just stumbles into wins vs DH
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 07:08 |
In Battlegrounds news, the Bob's Buddy App was officially released as part of the base Hearthstone Deck Tracker client (v1.11.2). https://articles.hsreplay.net/2020/04/24/introducing-bobs-buddy/ This is the thing that runs simulations of your board vs your opponent, giving calculations on win/tie/loss/lethal%, all live during your games It's going to reinvigorate the "making fun of streamers losing at BGs" meta.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 08:27 |
Cuntellectual posted:As was pointed out, they actually didn't have a ton to directly profit off of Outcast being good. Well sure, but they had a ton to lose if Outcast was bad, we just don't know to what extent without like a quarterly earnings report. Like it feels like they really did not want to lose eyeballs to MTGA or LoR's set releases. And yes, DH is still successful, however at the very top a lot of players are on Warrior because it's a very Legend-y deck: has game vs DH, can be aggro or control, and play quality matters for results. Here's the screenshot from today:
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 14:36 |
Blooming Brilliant posted:Warrior has really had a meteoric rise this set huh? Gorefiend not safe yet. All three decks that use it are still figuring out if it's even worth it. As long as Rogue (Blackjack Stunner/Sap) and Priest exist, it may not happen this expansion. In Zoo, most builds have moved away, but I appreciate the ability to clear up board space on your own in certain matchups. In Face Hunter, I really like how the 5/6 Phase Stalker version plays, and think Teron is overkill, but nothing is consensus yet. In Warrior, it's a 50/50 split on Egg+Teron supporters vs not, and this goes all the way up into high level streamers and GMs.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 15:10 |
fanny packrat posted:Since I switched over to playing zoo I've played priests in 40% of my ranked matches. That's not a fun matchup at all. HS Replay says priest is about 10% of the meta right now. It may not be fun, but it is an even matchup. You just really need to get a Scrap Imp or Hand start. Throw away all traditional Zoo openers. Promoted Pawn posted:Priest looks like it has the toolbox to deal with DH but the problem is that it cant reliably put up any sort of threat while also dealing with the onslaught. They spend the entire game on the backfoot and their only real victory condition is still being alive when the DH runs out of cards. This leaves them vulnerable to getting bursted out by some combination of Metamorphosis/Mistress/Altruis if their defense isnt perfect. Priest is unfavored against DH, it exists to keep Warrior in check and also Face Hunters at lower ranks.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 20:05 |
Promoted Pawn posted:What are they qualifying as “Control Warrior” because the only decks I can see under that category have extremely tiny samples A weird mix of Egg decks that don't have Eggs, some mis-classified Bomb Warrior decks that are built heavier, and basically any deck that runs Deathwing Mad Aspect But yea you need to have Legend data unlocked to see most of the data
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 22:04 |
Regalingualius posted:Is there still fuckall Wild data? Last time I checked, there were literally only three decks listed in the free section, and from what I heard from people who did shell out for it, the Premium stuff was barely any better. The meta page doesn't support Wild (yet?). At Diamond+Legend there are a handful of decks with over 2k games played, and 62 with 500+ games since the patch. Otherwise sorting by win% in Legend shows a bunch of Odd DH variants at the top.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 22:54 |
Cuntellectual posted:Interesting, considering Warrior was really down in the trash. I know eggro warrior but how do the control decks work? AnacondaHL posted:A weird mix of Egg decks that don't have Eggs, some mis-classified Bomb Warrior decks that are built heavier, and basically any deck that runs Deathwing Mad Aspect It's all the same Risky Skipper + Corsair Cache + Ancharrr core (see below image: the same 27 card core), with different frills and finishers surrounding them. Here are Warrior card usage stats in Legend for the past 3 days, note the drop in deck% from Rampage to the egg-specific cards:
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 00:15 |
fanny packrat posted:Pack tracker hasn't worked for me since it wanted to update today. I updated and it disappeared from HDT and I can't get it to reinstall. Looks like it's been affected by a dependency update to HDT (which has already released minor revision updates twice today): HDT Update Notes posted:Release v1.11.4 - 2020-04-29
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 01:27 |
mcbexx posted:I'm still on 1.10.8 though. Update notes show my last update is Release v1.10.8 - 2020-04-20 I got it to work. You'll need to update HDT to match the dependencies that the latest PackTracker expects. 1) Install HDT 1.11 (now up to 1.11.5 as of this post) manually from https://hsreplay.net/downloads/ 2) Open your Plugins folder 3) Delete PackTracker folder and any .dll's that may be floating around 4) Restart HDT, make sure the plugins options are clear of any old versions 5) Download the latest PackTracker.zip, drag into the Plugins options window 6) Restart HDT
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 07:06 |
Jolly Jumbuck posted:What is the optimal deck against Demon Hunter? It's been a lot more fun just hovering around D5 and playing Spell Mage, but it loses hard to DH and they seem to enjoy BMing me. Looking to gatekeep for the last day to keep them out of Legend. Warrior. You have to get an extremely unlucky draw paired with the most aggressive DH opener to lose, otherwise you crush them with minimal decision points. Cheap deck too, assuming you got the Galakrond's Awakening adventure already.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 15:40 |
Jolly Jumbuck posted:If you don't do this and don't emote, you get a pass. Deffo egg/eggless. Quest is a meme deck that tries give you game vs Priest, while sacrificing in every other matchup, including becoming (almost) unfavored vs DH.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 16:06 |
Goons Are Great posted:Speaking of egg warrior, does anyone happen to have a nice list? Or anything against DH? Currently facing 100% DH everytime everywhere while farming my rank back up and it is extremely annoying. ### Control Warrior # Class: Warrior # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (0) Inner Rage # 2x (1) Risky Skipper # 2x (1) Sky Raider # 2x (2) Armorsmith # 2x (2) Battle Rage # 2x (2) Corsair Cache # 2x (2) Injured Tol'vir # 2x (2) Rampage # 1x (3) Ancharrr # 2x (3) Bloodsworn Mercenary # 2x (3) Bomb Wrangler # 2x (3) Livewire Lance # 2x (3) Warmaul Challenger # 2x (4) Kor'kron Elite # 2x (7) Bloodboil Brute # 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream # AAECAQcC0gLerQMOFhyQA9QE1AjSpQP1qAPcqQPdrQOktgOrtgO7uQPAuQOcuwMA # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Find this deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/3FGmgQPZevRIjIsw2kA7ob/ This is the recommended version at below-legend because Priest is far more prevalent, and having 3 charge finishers gives you a chance to win. vs. DH the 27 card core is what matters. You mulligan differently for DH, keeping Skipper/Armorsmith and even Livewire Lance in your starting hand.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 14:07 |
Xguard86 posted:Yeah I've noticed with enrage warrior I really need to pay attention to if I'm the beatdown and then what/when I can put together a board swing or a big finish. Depending on if I'm the more aggressive deck. Bloodboil Brute mana reduction calculations. Also vs. Priestess of Fury specifically, a Bomb Wrangler on board does good work, as does doing an Armorsmith+Risky Skipper turn. You're almost never shooting for a charge combo kill vs DH, you're always setting up survival with Armorsmith, and removing their board every turn.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 17:00 |
teacup posted:I feel dumb what is the basic strat here? Is this the one I’ve heard which gains you heaps of armour (and how does that work? Against aggro, Risky Skipper + Armorsmith is the wombo combo, yes Here's an example of grinding through early aggression AND double Priestess: https://hsreplay.net/replay/AKy6qW2s4TfkLBTb9ueixf Otherwise, boost damaged minions with Inner Rage + Rampage, and use weapons to control the board or hit face Here's an example in an unfavored Mage matchup where I just had to Go For It (also Inner Rage + both Korkrons are in the bottom 6(!!) cards of my deck): https://hsreplay.net/replay/o9bdqZ8oJvJxfb4zDYfv36 Otherwise you're a combo deck, setting up the Korkron + Inner Rage + Bloodsworn charge combo AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 07:09 on May 3, 2020 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 05:01 |
kaesarsosei posted:Demon Hunter is the fun killer. The whole meta is based around the fucktard class and its lack of balance. Just FYI, in tournaments it's actually Warrior that has no decent answer right now. I've yet to see a tournament matchup where my Warrior wasn't banned. At the very least there are a handful of decks that can be almost even with DH while still being playable vs other stuff (notably Secret Rogue, Dragon Hunter, and Zoolock).
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 19:28 |
Xguard86 posted:Enrage warrior vs rogue notes? I get my rear end kicked because I don't know what I'm trying to do. Keep Warmaul Challenger, it's one of your only answers to a bullshit Hanar opening. Otherwise you'll lose to the same highroll RNG that everyone else loses to. Bomb Wrangler is also annoying for Rogues to get rid of, especially when backed up by a Risky Skipper play. Don't overcommit on Rampage/Inner Rage if Blackjack is a possibility. Otherwise it's pretty straightforward game plan. You can win with tempo or with combo. Example: https://hsreplay.net/replay/WjnDvGSEjG2Qb4GEEnUQKJ My keep of Bomb Wrangler + Risky Skipper + Sky Raider lets me respond to basically any play they make for the first 4 turns, game proceeds from there.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 22:12 |
In battlegrounds news, the nerf to Millhouse combined with the introduction of Bob's Buddy has skyrocketed my rating back over 10.1k for first time in 2 months Lots of people jokingly said seeing the %'s would tilt them, but it has actually made me way more calm and appreciative of when I actually do get lucky
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 23:46 |
TyrantWD posted:I’m having trouble finding something that consistently beats DH. I know HS replay says egg warrior, but I am losing around 70% of my games against DH. Unless I get a good skipper-armorsmith turn, I lose, but if you Corsair Cache into lance instead of ancharr, there is a good chance you never get that turn. I mean... yea that's exactly the point. Given mulligans and like the 100% win rate after doing this combo, that's how you get a 60% global win% on DH. TyrantWD posted:The only thing Ive found that works for climbing is laying DH yourself, and being a little better and luckier in your draw than the opponent. There are ways to build DH to gain an edge in the mirror, and ideas are still evolving. Due to the meta build featuring Priestess, most builds are off the Questing Adventurer plan, but some still are working on it. Another is to go super small with 2x Frozen Shadoweaver and some hot new Beaming Sidekick tech: ### Face DH # Class: Demonhunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (0) Twin Slice # 2x (1) Battlefiend # 2x (1) Beaming Sidekick # 2x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 2x (1) Crimson Sigil Runner # 2x (2) Chaos Strike # 1x (2) Spectral Sight # 2x (2) Umberwing # 2x (3) Eye Beam # 2x (3) Frozen Shadoweaver # 2x (3) Satyr Overseer # 1x (4) Altruis the Outcast # 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury # 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept # 1x (5) Metamorphosis # 2x (5) Warglaives of Azzinoth # 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # AAECAea5AwTMugPDvAPaxgPVyAMN/acD+a4Di7oD17sDxLwD4LwD1r4DusYDx8YD2cYD98gD+cgD/sgDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 15:27 |
fanny packrat posted:Just had two completely ridiculous games back-to-back playing skipper warrior today on ladder. I don't think this is the best approach to win this matchup. You're actually the aggressor vs Druid, which I thought you were going to do with your Injured Tolvir + Rampage keep.... but then you just hero powered on Turn 2. Your best bet was to establish a board early and pressure their life total, regardless of what kind of Druid it was. Turn 4 also should have been Armorsmith + Injured Tolvir, you don't need skipper + Armorsmith in this matchup, again you just needed board presence. Turn 8 was a HUGE Bloodboil Brute mana reduction missed opportunity. You had to go off with Risky skipper on this turn. Skipper + Armorsmith + Rampage on your existing Bloodboil = 5 mana with 7 injured minions on board, making your Bloodboil in hand 0 mana. Play it to kill the Eagles, you've gained +11 armor +2 more and are out of any burn range, and have setup lethal on board. This game was winnable.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 16:51 |
fanny packrat posted:Thanks a lot for responding! I appreciate the feedback, and I fully acknowledge that I'm pretty much a garbage-tier player. I'm trying to figure out how to play this deck, and this is great advice. NP, happy to help (it helps me too!) Remember Rule 1 of being the aggressor: Make Them Have It Even if they Wrath/Bogbeam, you had multiple followups, and it would have slowed them down enough to be unable to Overflow on curve. Note the claw in hand on the turn they overflow: had you kept pressuring there was no room to Overgrowth + Overflow. Also even in the event of a Glowfly, Bloodboil Brute costs 0-mana as the 2nd post-Skipper minion played, so you had more than enough to clear a Glowfly board.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 20:44 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:59 |
Here's another way to beat Demon Hunters: play some unfairly large minions via Scrap Imp, and win! https://hsreplay.net/replay/2Q9yS3wqakmiTUnV56fP7W This list is a combination of the Charge Zoo build mixed with the Highlander setup ### FakeHighlander # Class: Warlock # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 1x (1) Abusive Sergeant # 1x (1) Argent Squire # 1x (1) Beaming Sidekick # 1x (1) Blazing Battlemage # 1x (1) Bloodsail Corsair # 1x (1) Fiendish Servant # 1x (1) Flame Imp # 1x (1) Guardian Augmerchant # 1x (1) Hot Air Balloon # 1x (1) Infectious Sporeling # 1x (1) Rocket Augmerchant # 1x (1) Shieldbearer # 1x (1) Soulfire # 1x (1) Stonetusk Boar # 1x (1) Voidwalker # 1x (2) Bluegill Warrior # 1x (2) EVIL Genius # 2x (2) Expired Merchant # 1x (2) Hench-Clan Hogsteed # 2x (2) Imprisoned Scrap Imp # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 2x (3) Magic Carpet # 1x (3) Wolfrider # 2x (4) Nightshade Matron # 2x (6) Hand of Gul'dan # AAECAf0GFDDyAaECiAXjBfUF4gbOB+UHwgiInQPHnQP8owP9pwP5rgPqsAOwtgPevgPfvgPnvgMFtZ8D/aQDtbkDtrkDx7kDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Zeph into Frost Nova with 5 remaining mana is a legit play, allowing time for Scrap Imp to go off on your charge minions for lethal.
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 00:46 |