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BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Happiness Commando posted:

The 20F Yeti UQ is nice, but I want it to be even warmer. I've been thinking about a sock thing to act as a windbreaker.

Yeah I want to get a full size 0F UQ eventually. I'd use it on my winter trips and my wife, who sleeps cold, could use it for our 3 season trips. But havent seen a great deal on one yet.

I will say while I like my Arrowhead Equipment partial length quilts I sometimes struggle getting them to stay in place. The quilt always seems to shift off my shoulder when I lay diagonal. Anyone ever had any luck with using those quilt hooks that go on your ridgeline to help with that?

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Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005



Well, pulled the trigger and placed an order with Dream Hammock today. Ended up being pretty pricey with all the options but gently caress it, I've been hammocking for a long time now so I think it's a worthwhile investment. Got an 11' Sparrow, custom 62" width with net and overcover. Chatted a lot with Randy there before placing the order and it seems like this will tick all the boxes for me. Now I just have to wait a couple of months...

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Nice!

What extra options did you go with and what type of fabric? Every once in a while I think about getting a new lighter hammock but I really love my Warbonnet XLC and it's shelf and everything else.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005



BaseballPCHiker posted:

Nice!

What extra options did you go with and what type of fabric? Every once in a while I think about getting a new lighter hammock but I really love my Warbonnet XLC and it's shelf and everything else.

I was torn a bit between light weight and durability and ended up going with the 1.6 HyperD fabric. It's an 11' hammock, 62" wide (I dig wider than normal), UQ/TQ hooks, net and overcover (in 1.2 fabric, one large vent).

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Anyone here have any Loco Libre UQs? Thinking of buying a 0 degree quilt from them and am interested to see what others think about them.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



One hell of a deal if anyone wanted to get a Warbonnet hammock setup on the cheap:
https://old.reddit.com/r/GearTrade/comments/lpxxmv/wts_warbonnet_blackbird_hammock_with_all_the/

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM


Just ordered a new Warbonnet Blackbird XLC as my birthday present to myself. Iíll keep my ENOs as lounging hammocks, and continue to use the tarps and quilts that I currently have until the siren song of upgrading starts calling my name.

Bless these heavenly contraptions that feel like sleeping on a cloud!

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



pantslesswithwolves posted:

Just ordered a new Warbonnet Blackbird XLC as my birthday present to myself.

Thats a great hammock you'll love it! Did you go single layer or double and what fabric? I bought a double layer lightweight used a few years ago and its been holding up great.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM


Single layer. Iíve never put a pad in my hammock so I donít think double layer would have been useful for me. Now Iím starting to scout out UL underquilts for when the time comes to upgrade that- I have a bikepacking trip coming up in April and I learned from my October trip that wearing all of your layers to bed is not a viable substitute for having insulation underneath you.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005



Still waiting for the Dream Hammock I ordered back in November(!). They did send it on time (six weeks out) but first it disappeared in the USPS system for over a month and now it's sitting in customs in Sweden since a few weeks back. Hoping to get it within a couple of weeks... custom Sparrow model that I am much looking forward to! Got a new underquilt (Bushmen -2, down) as well.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



pantslesswithwolves posted:

Single layer. Iíve never put a pad in my hammock so I donít think double layer would have been useful for me. Now Iím starting to scout out UL underquilts for when the time comes to upgrade that- I have a bikepacking trip coming up in April and I learned from my October trip that wearing all of your layers to bed is not a viable substitute for having insulation underneath you.

If you're looking towards a cottage vendor for a UL underquilt order now! Even then its probably to late to get one for your April trip. ArrowHeadEquipment can ship out their Apex synthetic quilts pretty quickly, they're the only one I can think of without huge lead times right now.


Clayton Bigsby posted:

Still waiting for the Dream Hammock I ordered back in November(!). They did send it on time (six weeks out) but first it disappeared in the USPS system for over a month and now it's sitting in customs in Sweden since a few weeks back. Hoping to get it within a couple of weeks... custom Sparrow model that I am much looking forward to! Got a new underquilt (Bushmen -2, down) as well.

Nice! My buddy has a Darien that I've really liked laying in.

I just ordered an Autumn Ultralight as my 2nd ever hammock, its an asym which I've always wanted to try.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







Well, after a year of having my head buried in a computer for grad school, my annual camping trip is finally rolling back around soon and with that comes the irresistible urge to fiddle and/or upgrade. I snaked up one of those continuous ridgelines and some of the tarp tie-outs from dutchware. Pretty stoked on those because up until now I've tried out a bunch of different solutions (even sometimes relying on my own questionable knot-tying ability!) and even though they worked I've never been 100% happy with them. I honestly think I might try and switch out my suspension, too, although I'm not sure which direction I want to go with that, I just know I'm tired of the big loop straps and carabiners. But honestly I'm also kind of just eyeballing a totally new hammock haha. To those of you who own blackbirds, how impossible is it to fit generic UQs on them?

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Beet Wagon posted:

Well, after a year of having my head buried in a computer for grad school, my annual camping trip is finally rolling back around soon and with that comes the irresistible urge to fiddle and/or upgrade. I snaked up one of those continuous ridgelines and some of the tarp tie-outs from dutchware. Pretty stoked on those because up until now I've tried out a bunch of different solutions (even sometimes relying on my own questionable knot-tying ability!) and even though they worked I've never been 100% happy with them. I honestly think I might try and switch out my suspension, too, although I'm not sure which direction I want to go with that, I just know I'm tired of the big loop straps and carabiners. But honestly I'm also kind of just eyeballing a totally new hammock haha. To those of you who own blackbirds, how impossible is it to fit generic UQs on them?

For suspensions I like my current setup a lot. Just a simple set of 6 foot tree straps, that I marlin spike hitch to my whoopies. Lets me adjust easily, and keep the straps separate from my hammock if they get all sappy. Took a bit of getting used to but works really well. And if I ever lose my toggle I can just use a beckett hitch real easy too.

I have a blackbird and have had zero issue with using Arrowhead 3/4 UQs or HammockGear UQs on it. They both work just fine.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







BaseballPCHiker posted:

For suspensions I like my current setup a lot. Just a simple set of 6 foot tree straps, that I marlin spike hitch to my whoopies. Lets me adjust easily, and keep the straps separate from my hammock if they get all sappy. Took a bit of getting used to but works really well. And if I ever lose my toggle I can just use a beckett hitch real easy too.

I have a blackbird and have had zero issue with using Arrowhead 3/4 UQs or HammockGear UQs on it. They both work just fine.

Awesome, that's good to know. I have some kind of ENO underquilt I picked up on steep discount that actually works pretty well with my hennessy, but I know it can get tricky once you get into hammocks with weird shaped tie-outs so I always like to ask before I commit to a new hammock and UQ.

I did end up pulling the trigger on some new suspension, gonna just do a total conversion on my hammock that I think will work a lot better than the "tie a loop for carabiners into the current suspension" setup I've been using. Got some CLs and a set of the beetle buckles and straps, but I think I'm gonna bounce back and forth between using the actual hardware and trying something like a Becket until I decide what I like. Pretty much anything is going to be an upgrade over the loops, and once I have this thing fully dialed in I can give it to my wife and get a blackbird lmao.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.


Anyone care to recommend a hammock stand that can handle an 11í gathered end hammock (Dutchware)? Iíd like to sleep in mine more regularly when Iím home, but donít want to put in permanent wall mounts. Most of the less expensive ones on amazon seem to be too short, and I donít want to build one of the insane contraptions posted on Ultimate Hang.

Also, if you can operate a sewing machine you can get the materials to make a great underquilt from ripstop by the roll. I made one good to ~40F without much hassle or expense.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



I just went through a long process researching different stands I could use outside, though for me I had one big tree and just needed something to tie off to on the other end.

Tensa outdoor seems to make the most recommended stands out there but they are also quite expensive. For me I ended up buying a single Tensa Solo, which cost $130 with shipping. That was going to be close to the total price for me buying a 6x6 cedar post and sinking in my yard so I ended up going with the Solo.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.


Oh, I have plenty of trees. I need something to put inside. Less camping and more bed replacement. Or supplement I guess. Should have been more specific.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM


Post pictures of your last hangs.

I took a buddy for a gravel grind ride up the C&O canal path and surprised him with a fun singletrack sojourn that ended with me pulling out a couple of hammocks and some beers for a quick hang overlooking the Potomac River.



Now that itís getting warmer, my wife and I are bringing back our Hammock Happy Hour, where we go to a nearby park, hang up a couple of hammocks with the ENO fuse system, and have a drink or two while watching the sunset together. Weíre gonna try for sunrise hangs where Iíll bring out some ground coffee and my AeroPress so we can enjoy some coffee in our hammocks.



I have a S24O tomorrow where Iíll be bringing my new Blackbird XLC out to act as a trial run for a bikepacking trip in a few weeks. While I have a Wooki UQ on order with Warbonnet, Iíll likely be wrapping myself in a sleeping bag in my hammock and seeing how well that works. Anything will be better than thinking that wearing all my layers to sleep and hoping my top quilt will keep me warm.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Nothing too exciting for me the past week.





Testing out my new Warbonnet Minifly tarp and my Autumn Ultralight loop/toggle things.

Im expecting a Autumn Ultralight Juniper hammock in the next month or two that will be my first symmetrical hammock and shave about 8 ounces off of my current Warbonnet XLC. Not that I dont love the XLC its a great hammock, very comfortable, just wanted to give a symmetric a try.

NuclearEagleFox!!!
Oct 7, 2011


I was recently gifted this suspension system: https://www.grandtrunk.com/collections/hammock-straps/products/tree-slings-hanging-kit

It's essentially a rope suspension with a webbing sleeve to "protect" the trees. But is that actually true? Do you think this is enough to protect trees from damage? I don't actually know that much about this, I just know that everyone recommends webbing instead of rope for suspension. I'm perfectly willing to get a proper webbing daisy chain, but now I'm curious: why is it that webbing is so heavily preferred (and legislated)? What about a rope causes damage vs webbing?

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005



NuclearEagleFox!!! posted:

I was recently gifted this suspension system: https://www.grandtrunk.com/collections/hammock-straps/products/tree-slings-hanging-kit

It's essentially a rope suspension with a webbing sleeve to "protect" the trees. But is that actually true? Do you think this is enough to protect trees from damage? I don't actually know that much about this, I just know that everyone recommends webbing instead of rope for suspension. I'm perfectly willing to get a proper webbing daisy chain, but now I'm curious: why is it that webbing is so heavily preferred (and legislated)? What about a rope causes damage vs webbing?

Just think about the area covered by a rope vs area covered by even a 1.5" or so strap. There's a big difference. Webbing will spread the load while a rope will dig into the bark, damaging the tree.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM



Combining the two best things for a leisurely afternoon hang right here.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







NuclearEagleFox!!! posted:

I was recently gifted this suspension system: https://www.grandtrunk.com/collections/hammock-straps/products/tree-slings-hanging-kit

It's essentially a rope suspension with a webbing sleeve to "protect" the trees. But is that actually true? Do you think this is enough to protect trees from damage? I don't actually know that much about this, I just know that everyone recommends webbing instead of rope for suspension. I'm perfectly willing to get a proper webbing daisy chain, but now I'm curious: why is it that webbing is so heavily preferred (and legislated)? What about a rope causes damage vs webbing?

You should be fine, the webbing sleeve is going to spread out the load enough that you shouldn't harm the tree. The webbing vs rope thing is basically all about spreading the load like Clayton said. As long as the part that's touching the tree is pretty wide and flat, whatever's coming off of it doesn't matter too much.

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Post pictures of your last hangs.

My last hang was A) extremely silly, B) probably unsafe, C) not recommended by the strap or hammock manufacturers, and D) fun and cool:




We have two good trees in our back yard, the only problem is they're ~40 feet apart. I have plans to sink some posts this summer to make a chill little hammock zone but in the meantime I managed to frankenstein a bunch of straps together a while ago so I can hang on the weekends. I picked up one of those ENO spreader bars on a recommendation from this thread and doubled the sketchiness by adding my wife's hammock (it's empty in that second picture which is why it seems so high up) and while I have to strongly recommend that you don't try this weird horrible setup at home, I have to say it works pretty well all things considered lmao.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006



Looks like you have at least one good tree there. Check out the Tensa Solo if you're looking for something less permanent. I got one to use with the oak tree in my backyard and after a bit of fiddling have been happy with it.

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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015







Both trees are solid and sturdy, they're just too far apart. But honestly the dream is to be able to hang three or four hammocks around a central point for when people come over so I just need to get off my butt and stop procrastinating about trying to turn the back yard into somewhere I want to hang out lol. The weather was just too good to pass up this weekend.

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