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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Welcome to Traditional Games!

This is the forum for games not played on a computer, or outside like a sport. A physical sport, not an e-Sport. Pen-and-paper RPGs, card games, board games, tabletop war games, and party games are just the tip of the iceberg. Here you can talk about anything from Dungeons & Dragons to Uno.

In The Game Room subforum, you can also play these games with other goons! Look there for recruitment threads and gameplay threads.

Poker in the Rear was re-opened on January 10, 2021. Posts about poker are still welcome in TG, but you should look at PitR for the best resources and threads and community talking about poker specifically, and all played-usually-for-real-money card games & sports betting type stuff as well.

Your Friendly Moderation Team
Moderators: Antivehicular, Dwarf74, Leperflesh
IK: PeterWeller


Traditional Games Rules

All normal SA forums rules apply, as do standard Games rules! Consider printing them out and stapling them to your rules books (along with this one, of course).

Discuss games in Traditional Games, and play play-by-post games or other active-gameplay type activities in The Game Room (including recruitment threads).

Offsite drama
"Offsite drama" is when two or more goons have a fight on some other forum or discord or slack or facetron whatever. Please don't import your offsite tiffs into Trad Games, even if the subject of your fight was nominally Trad Games relevant. It's not reasonable to expect SA admins or mods to try to moderate those privately-run places remotely, and your fellow TG goons are not interested in having their threads poo poo up with chatlogs and he-said-she-saids and already-in-progress slapfights.

Exceptions:
  • This rule in no way bars discussion of Trad Games Industry Public Figures, including lovely (or good!) things those figures might be doing on social media which seem dramatic, which you are welcome to post about in the TG As an Industry thread. That's not what we mean by "offsite drama." It's cool and good to help change the nature of the Trad Games Industry by publicly outing its abusers.

  • If you are being harassed or doxxed offsite by an SA goon or because of something that happened on SA, please contact a mod or an admin directly. You do not have to post side by side with goons who are doing gross terrible things to you offsite. Material you provide to mods or admins will be kept in confidence at your request.

Appeals and emergencies
You are welcome to directly PM an admin of your choice, and you can reach out to all of the admins at once by the admins using forumadmins@somethingawful.com. This email may also be used to alert the admins to any emergencies on the forums in a more private way, especially if you do not have private messages. If you are unsatisfied with decisions made by the TG moderators, you can contact one or more admins or create a thread in SAD. We will also periodically have feedback threads which you are encouraged to use to discuss moderation and other problems with TG in a frank and open manner. Check the stickied threads to see if one is running.

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If a game is VERY out of print and unavailable, you can link to scans of rule books, components, etc. for your own use (e.g., non-commercial uses). Otherwise, do not link it. In border cases, please ask a mod first.

No one cares if your miniatures, wargaming gear, or proxy cards were made by the manufacturer or a helpful third party. However, discussing where goons can get them is out. Keep it off our forums.


Participatory Game Threads that Aren't Let's Plays

If you want to run a display based Play-by-Post (PbP) game aimed specifically at "the audience," post it in The Game Room. Let's Play threads, which should be in the Let's Play! subforum, are typically structured such that all gameplay is performed "behind the scenes," with extensive effort to differentiate them from PbP games. A generic Diplomacy game that you run with the audience does not count as a "Let's Play." If you have an idea for a thread and you're not sure, please ask. If you get it wrong, a mod may move your thread to the other forum.


I need my thread moved/my title changed/I used the wrong tag/where is my cow?

Send any TG or The Game Room-related requests of this nature to a mod via PM with a link to the thread and we'll fix it ASAP.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Sep 19, 2023

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potatocubed
Jul 26, 2012

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Trad Games in a Time of Plague: A Covid Policy

The thing about traditional games is that they're inherently a social hobby, and as the US and UK open up further and covid vaccination proceeds apace people are going to want to get back to gathering in numbers to sling their preferred cards, toy soldiers, or funny dice.

Unfortunately, the plague hasn't actually gone away yet. Gathering in numbers is still a risk -- and not only to yourself, but to everyone you go near. They might not be vaccinated yet. They might be immunocompromised. You could give them the virus that kills them. 'Personal responsibility' doesn't cut it when you're dealing with an infectious airborne disease.

But the threads in Trad Games aren't really the place for arguing about what level of protection is appropriate for gathering to play those trad games and it can derail threads every time people talk about playing in-person, so we're saying please don't take that bait. Different people are comfortable with different levels of risk.

That said, we feel we should make this clear: If you come into TG and start breaking out any of the 'covid isn't real' or 'covid isn't dangerous' conspiracy theories it is not going to go well for you. Our patience for that poo poo is nil.

If you want to talk about covid, there's a thread in GBS, and if you want to argue bitterly about it then there's one in D&D and one in C-SPAM.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

"AI" tools and content in Trad Games
After a heated debate we've decided to implement some rules and guidelines for posting images and text generated all or in part by so-called "AI" tools (not actually intelligent, it's just a buzzword). We're not in love with this compromise, but these are the operating rules for now, subject to change if they don't work:
  • If you are excited about the stuff you're generating with tools like these or you want to learn about them, you can post about them in the AI for TG thread. That is not a thread to go trolling in. If you hate AI stuff, just stay out of that thread please. That is the only thread where you should post chat about AI tools and their use in TG.
  • Do not make low-effort dumps of your AI-generated stuff in other TG threads. That includes but is not limited to: character portraits, maps, character sheets, adventure ideas, your one-on-one chatlogs with an AI, and more. Too many posters hate this stuff and so it invites a hostile reaction, extended irresolvable debates about the ethics, and lots of reports for mods to deal with.
  • Please do not go ape because you suspect someone used an AI tool to generate an image for a token in their play by post game.
  • Report posts you think break the rules, please don't just post attacks on them, because that creates exactly the derails we're trying to avoid.
  • There may be gray areas for stuff acceptable outside the AI thread, where mods need to exercise discretion. You can always ask one of us first if you're not sure.

If you want to Debate and Discuss the ethics of AI tools, please go do that in the Debate & Discussion thread. There are no threads in TG where that is a welcome debate.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 7, 2023

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Let's give credit where credit is due!
This is a guideline.

For decades we've happily used and re-used other people's work in our own gaming, whether that's using images found online as character portraits, grabbing decks of proxy cards for our home games of Magic, borrowing art assets for maps, or lifting a monster description from a different game to drop into our homebrew adventure.

Why not credit those people? You could mention where you got your stuff when you use it. That way if other people like it, they could go and find that artist or creator and maybe buy their stuff!

Even better, you could pay for stuff so artists and writers get paid! But of course, we all use stuff, unpaid, here and there. I can't make you do that. Realistically many gamers can't pay an artist for every game token or text snippet they use at their tables, probably. Still: doing as much as you can to funnel work to the creators you are benefiting from is cool and good.

So please, consider crediting folks for their work whenever you can!

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