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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Was it this version of the Bakshi LOTR?

https://vimeo.com/217693315

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

They say its tobacco but they act like its weed. Given nobody in Rohan has any idea of it and Saruman is paying high prices for it Im pretty sure hobbit parties are [w i l d]

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
They’re just constantly grouchy because they’re jonesing for their next fix, they can only be chill when they’re hitting the pipe. Gandalf specifically blames this for that one time he tells Pippin to go commit die

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.
In the Appendices JRRT explicitly says pipeweed is probably a variety of Nicotiana, which is the genus of tobacco plants. :colbert:

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
I prefer to think of it as cannabis because that means Blibo is Gandalf's redneck cousin who he goes out to get high and shoot fireworks off with every few months and that make him more relatable to me.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Presto posted:

In the Appendices JRRT explicitly says pipeweed is probably a variety of Nicotiana, which is the genus of tobacco plants. :colbert:

That word probably leaves room, and theres no reason it cannot be both in a magical setting (even if my heart knows its tobacco)


David D. Davidson posted:

I prefer to think of it as cannabis because that means Blibo is Gandalf's redneck cousin who he goes out to get high and shoot fireworks off with every few months and that make him more relatable to me.

Bilbo's retirement is listening to the greatest hits of freeform elvish jam sessions and open mic night poetry slams, but he still brought a sick as hell knife and armor with him in case you know, he gets up to adventuring in the bushes or whatever.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
The idea of Gandalf constantly fiending for a cig is way sadder and less magical than him ascending taniquetil

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.
I shall smoke grass!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Presto posted:

I shall smoke grass!

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
it's weed hth

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Hobbits are just what you naturally get when you smoke weed all day. The reason their race dissappeared was the outlawing of the drug and the shire became a corporate headquarters for Westron Energy.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Barudak posted:

Hobbits are just what you naturally get when you smoke weed all day. The reason their race dissappeared was the outlawing of the drug and the shire became a corporate headquarters for Westron Energy.

and ol' sharkey? he's on the board

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

indigi posted:

The idea of Gandalf constantly fiending for a cig is way sadder and less magical than him ascending taniquetil

Gandalf is that homeless guy you see looking for cigarette butts in the gutter

Barudak
May 7, 2007

And so, for saving Middle Earth they gifted Gandalf rolling papers made from the wood of the white tree of gondor

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
crosspost from funny pics thread

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Lazy_Liberal posted:

crosspost from funny pics thread

And that is why Thorin died without a son

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
This maneuver is always successful.

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

:goonsay: it's not weed it's tobacco you loving nerds

Hey, Tolkien's the one who called it pipeweed, not me, and I didn't even imply they'd be getting high (actually, how compatible are being constantly stoned and despairing anyway?). Though if that was accurate, perhaps instead of the Gardener he'd be the Dank Lord Samwise. Technically he did name his daughters after various flowers, so he does have a lot of flower children following him even in canon...

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


The Sci-Fi Wi-Fi Tolkien Thread: The Dank Lord Samwise

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

MadDogMike posted:

(actually, how compatible are being constantly stoned and despairing anyway?)

Extremely

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

MadDogMike posted:

Hey, Tolkien's the one who called it pipeweed

It's "pipe-weed," and like other hyphenated words in LotR, it's a case where the fictional translator is taking a single Westron word that does not translate directly and translating it as a compound word. Like "barrow-wight" or "elf-friend." I'd say that it probably was because the plant in question was not exactly the same as modern tobacco, though it is certainly a close relative (same genus, different species or subspecies or something like that), and besides, it was just translated as "tobacco" in The Hobbit anyway. (Of course, in reality, it's because Tolkien decided that he didn't like the word "tobacco" on linguistic grounds.)

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
It’s weed, Nerd.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
it’s definitely without a doubt weed

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Zesty posted:

It’s weed, Nerd.

You know who else was a nerd? J.R.R. Tolkien. The man who wrote this book. It's tobacco.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Tolkien didn’t even know if Gandalf was Manwe or not how can we trust his horticultural knowledge

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Gandalf was NOT Manwë he was a maia. He was sent across the ocean as an angel to guide, aide, and defend the denizens of Middle-earth, and he was a maia to Aulë. God

He did totally cuck Celeborn though. That part is real.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

He did totally cuck Celeborn though. That part is real.

teleporno is into it tho

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Gandalf was NOT Manwë

Tolkien said he didn’t know if this was true. so why should I believe him about pipe weed

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

DontMockMySmock posted:

It's "pipe-weed," and like other hyphenated words in LotR, it's a case where the fictional translator is taking a single Westron word that does not translate directly and translating it as a compound word. Like "barrow-wight" or "elf-friend." I'd say that it probably was because the plant in question was not exactly the same as modern tobacco, though it is certainly a close relative (same genus, different species or subspecies or something like that), and besides, it was just translated as "tobacco" in The Hobbit anyway. (Of course, in reality, it's because Tolkien decided that he didn't like the word "tobacco" on linguistic grounds.)

It's whatever feel good plant they've got on hand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botanical_identity_of_soma%E2%80%93haoma

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

sweet geek swag posted:

You know who else was a nerd? J.R.R. Tolkien. The man who wrote this book. It's tobacco.

Tolkein isn’t even in the top 5 writers of LOTR content.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Top 1 in quality :colbert:

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin
Just wait until the new Amazon Rings of Power series is out

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.
Manwe wouldn't have gotten killedinconveniently discorporated by a balrog.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


gandalf is a giant eagle

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Gandalf was NOT Manwë he was a maia. He was sent across the ocean as an angel to guide, aide, and defend the denizens of Middle-earth, and he was a maia to Aulë. God

He did totally cuck Celeborn though. That part is real.

Saruman was the Maia of Aulë. Olórin lived in the gardens of Lórien and liked to hang out with Nienna.

I always thought it was interesting that both Sauron and Saruman had been originally associated with Aulë, who himself had something of an ambitious nature (c.f. the creation of the Dwarves, although that turned out okay because he'd just got carried away).

Tolkien's sensibilities definitely included seeing craft and making as something that could lead one astray if left unchecked.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Closing in on the end of the book, we have reached the "where the gently caress is gollum" part of the story.

As for creation, Im not knee deep in the silmalrillion but it comes across to me as a collective versus individual thing and creation used for self aggrandizement or not for collective good is a dangerous path to tread. Knowledge (with Saruman) gets the same spiel of its good being in its collected use.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
My wife found a treasure at the thrift store so now we don't just have RotK, we have the entire animated saga.



I'm unbelievably happy about this DVD for children.

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 13, 2022

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ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

My wife found a treasure at the thrift store so now we don't just have RotK, we have the entire animated saga.



I'm unbelievably happy about this DVD for children.

post some screenshots

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