anarchists: https://youtu.be/r-yUtXTrk68 tankies: https://youtu.be/JauB3k4-tZQ
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 08:56 |
I made it a little over halfway
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Wheeee posted:anarchists: maoists: https://youtu.be/zDDUY91jrx4 based stalinists: https://youtu.be/MC0Om8v8H7g
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 12:00 |
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Someone needs to make a movie with modern tanks battling, I'm sick of ww2 tanks. Who cares how ridiculous the scenario is, have Japan invade South Korea or something, I want to see modern tanks. The only one I can even think of is Courage Under Fire where Denzel heroically stops friendly firing his own guys.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 13:21 |
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I like to play tanks in War Thunder!
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 13:36 |
bedpan posted:the CIA was very active in Hungary. . .smearing the popular choice for a PM/president and advocating for a government takeover by a catholic cardinal. this really didn't help the anti-soviet opposition. As far as i can tell most of the cia's involvement was radio free europe broadcasts. i feel like that would not be enough to start a rebellion, what else were they up to? Something i read said the cia was trying to direct the rebels to hidden weapon caches but they couldn't figure out who to contact lol
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 14:23 |
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what is the most advanced / elite tank. is there a prism tank. is there a mammoth mk2
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 19:46 |
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Apoc tank
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 19:51 |
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Hatebag posted:One of the primary demands of the Hungarian revolutionaries in 56 was institution of multiparty democracy, which they got in 89. Now they're fascist so maybe the soviets were right to invade or maybe the invasion gave the fascists something to organize around. The Hungarian government pre revolution seemed pretty fuckin incompetent though and their security forces were constantly shooting crowds of peaceful demonstrators, so they were bad. The un delegation to investigate the Soviet invasion was lead by a danish nazi collaborator though, so lol Not only was Alsing Andersen a collaborator, he actively defended the policy and denounced any form of resistance. He was acting chairman of the Social Democrats from 1942 until the end of the war and became Minister of the Interior for exactly ten days in 1947 until everyone remembered what a shitbag he was. Then in 1957 he became President of the Socialist International. Disagreements over Hungary also resulted in the coming founder of the Socialist People's Party, Aksel Larsen, being expelled from the Danish Communist Party. He immediately began working with the CIA to rat out his former friends in return for expensive dinners and cash bribes. Never trust a Social Democrat.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:09 |
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Smythe posted:what is the most advanced / elite tank. is there a prism tank. is there a mammoth mk2
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:11 |
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Hatebag posted:As far as i can tell most of the cia's involvement was radio free europe broadcasts. i feel like that would not be enough to start a rebellion, what else were they up to? the following is from Legacy of Ashes. I've copied the entire section on Hungary because it is a good read. quote:A great crowd had gathered at the Parliament in Budapest two days before, led by student demonstrators rising up against the communist government. The hated state security police confronted a second crowd at the government radio station, where a party functionary was denouncing the protests. Some of the students were armed. A shot rang out from the radio building, the security police opened fire, and the protestors fought the secret police all night. At the Budapest City Park, a third crowd tore a statue of Stalin from its pedestal, dragged it to the front of the National Theater, and smashed it into shards. Red Army troops and tanks entered Budapest the next morning, and the demonstrators persuaded at least a handful of the young Soviet soldiers to join their cause. Rebels rode toward the Parliament on Soviet tanks flying the Hungarian flag. Russian commanders panicked, and in a terrible moment at Kossuth Square a blinding crossfire erupted. At least a hundred people died. Inside the White House, Allen Dulles tried to tell the president the meaning of the Hungarian uprising. "Khrushchev's days may well be numbered," he said. He was off by seven years.
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Smythe posted:what is the most advanced / elite tank. is there a prism tank. is there a mammoth mk2
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:15 |
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metal gear ?? very epic
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:23 |
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:25 |
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are there cool tanks irl or is it still the abrams which is the most elite. ud think thered be sweet tech tanks that have like quadcopter drone fleets that dock on their root and zip off to bomb poo poo or net things or shoot trackers for sweet giant missiles to home in on and stuff. or a tank that has some kind of laser weapon.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 20:25 |
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i watched a video of a modern day tank crew and it was pretty cool, but also pretty oldschool too.
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SplitSoul posted:Not only was Alsing Andersen a collaborator, he actively defended the policy and denounced any form of resistance. He was acting chairman of the Social Democrats from 1942 until the end of the war and became Minister of the Interior for exactly ten days in 1947 until everyone remembered what a shitbag he was. Then in 1957 he became President of the Socialist International. This guy sounds like a real rear end in a top hat! Not as bad as the nazi who was a nato chairman in the 60s, but pretty bad bedpan posted:the following is from Legacy of Ashes. I've copied the entire section on Hungary because it is a good read That's pretty much what i thought. The cia had one guy in budapest and nobody cared what he said or did. I don't think you can really credit the cia with hungary 56, the Hungarians basically saw that poland was able to successfully agitate for greater autonomy in October 56 so they tried to do the same. Then the security forces started shooting and Khrushchev decided the answer was more shooting. The cia didn't even have the wherewithal to get the guns! Compare that to a successful cia fascist coup like Indonesia or brazil where they had a bunch of guys bribing army officers and providing material support, making plans and providing signals intelligence.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:15 |
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Smythe posted:what is the most advanced / elite tank. is there a prism tank. is there a mammoth mk2
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:38 |
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Smythe posted:what is the most advanced / elite tank. is there a prism tank. is there a mammoth mk2
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:45 |
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problem with the eu is that since there cant be any land wars anymore since theyre all bffs now nobody makes cool tanks. sad
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:49 |
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LIBERALS duck except the duck is a communist
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:55 |
the metal gear ray isn't a tank it's a tank-hunter (because metal gears are walking nuclear battle tanks u see)
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 21:57 |
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Lady Militant posted:the metal gear ray isn't a tank it's a tank-hunter (because metal gears are walking nuclear battle tanks u see) Who's ready for a six page tank destroyer doctrine derail
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 22:00 |
Smythe posted:are there cool tanks irl or is it still the abrams which is the most elite. ud think thered be sweet tech tanks that have like quadcopter drone fleets that dock on their root and zip off to bomb poo poo or net things or shoot trackers for sweet giant missiles to home in on and stuff. or a tank that has some kind of laser weapon. tanks, much as with most of America’s military, are really only well suited to a scenario of total war in which you’re just fuckin going balls to the wall turns out they’re just expensive fat turds in current asymmetric warfare trying to police insurgencies
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Wheeee posted:tanks, much as with most of America’s military, are really only well suited to a scenario of total war in which you’re just fuckin going balls to the wall They should bring back those minitanks that I think they made briefly during early tank warfare. Like these little 1-person tanks, and just makes swarms of them. Sort of similar to my other military idea, which is to build a million prop war-planes instead of the super expensive jets we have now. Individually they may be weaker, but it won't matter when they appear in numbers great enough to blot out the sky.
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Wheeee posted:tanks, much as with most of America’s military, are really only well suited to a scenario of total war in which you’re just fuckin going balls to the wall and not against a peer or the world burns in atomic fire and x inches of steel ain't going to help there. tanks are kind of only used in proxy squabbles and colonial counterinsurgency work as a force projection thing.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 22:17 |
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liberals: doo doo doo doo tankies: ehhh ehh ehh ehh
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 23:03 |
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Hatebag posted:This guy sounds like a real rear end in a top hat! Not as bad as the nazi who was a nato chairman in the 60s, but pretty bad 100%. The CIA didn't do anything in Hungary but broadcast propaganda and try to turn the country into a theocracy.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 23:06 |
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Smythe posted:are there cool tanks irl or is it still the abrams which is the most elite. ud think thered be sweet tech tanks that have like quadcopter drone fleets that dock on their root and zip off to bomb poo poo or net things or shoot trackers for sweet giant missiles to home in on and stuff. or a tank that has some kind of laser weapon. not really. they're a dead end from a military strategy standpoint, much like battle ships. anti armor missiles are way too advanced for any amount of traditional armor to be helpful, and poo poo like reactive armor only works once. and on top of this they're still really vulnerable to mines and IEDs they drive over. there was this weird fantasy in the 80s that both sides of the cold war would be spraying tactical nukes everywhere and tanks would be useful here since the crew could survive the radiation for longer than infantry but it's both insane and never really made any sense. im not even sure what they use modern tanks for, really, besides intimidating people. artillery does the same job without putting the crew in danger.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 23:25 |
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Larry Parrish posted:im not even sure what they use modern tanks for, really, besides intimidating people. artillery does the same job without putting the crew in danger. in the US, they are a jobs program to a degree unlike other weapons systems job programs. we have thousands and thousands of the things with thousands more in production.
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 23:28 |
https://youtu.be/cu9EYHjohp0
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# ? Jul 26, 2021 23:36 |
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bedpan posted:in the US, they are a jobs program to a degree unlike other weapons systems job programs. we have thousands and thousands of the things with thousands more in production. yeah but that's more like using the tank factories than the actual tank, you know? the army doesn't even have enough tankers to crew them all
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Lady Militant posted:the metal gear ray isn't a tank it's a tank-hunter (because metal gears are walking nuclear battle tanks u see) Okay fine how about Sahelanthropus.
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# ? Jul 27, 2021 00:09 |
alas, tanks couldn’t even keep up as a corporate welfare project, and so the F-35 had to be created
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# ? Jul 27, 2021 01:14 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Okay fine how about Sahelanthropus. Metal Gear D or gtfo
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# ? Jul 27, 2021 01:22 |
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Spank Bankies, followers of an authoritarian political and economic ideolody based on revenge porn or maybe that's a better term for an authoritarian political and economic ideology based on sperm banks, but that doesn't sound realistic
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