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For the OP: ======================= What we know so far (16 August 2021) Covid is airborne and spread through respiratory exhalations. The Delta variant has been proven to be able to be transmitted outdoors in less than a second's contact. [data, words & details] Unmasked, aersolized (>4um) droplets take about 12 feet to hit the ground if they aren't suspended in the air. [source---from the study that gave us "6 feet for social distancing" from like the 1960s or whatever] Surgical masks are about 40% effective at blocking exhaled aerosols. Well-fit N95s, 95%. Well-fit respirators, 100%. [maybe a link to youtubes?] Some coverings like bandanas may actively worsen exhalations (decrease droplet size) while filtering nothing [maybe a link to youtubes?] Vaccinated people can catch the virus. They have a lower chance of catching the virus, but once it is caught, while the chance of severe symptoms is decreased, the CFR is the same as unvaccinated. [source] Vaccinated people are as contagious as unvaccinated people whether symptomatic or asymptomatic. [source, details] Children can catch the virus as easily as adults. The apparent lower infection rates last year were due to lack of testing of children + reduction in typical means of social contact [source, details] Children are as contagious as adults. [source, details] Long Covid is a real and concerning consequence of this disease. It especially attacks the heart, brain, and reproductive organs. [source, details] Children are significantly more prone to Long Covid than adults [source, details] ======================= What am I missing? What do I have wrong or in accurately stated? Sunny Side Up fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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mod sassinator posted:just link the leaked CDC slide deck, it's everything and more to show the dangers from both the virus and the administration: https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/ I was thinking it would be clearer to have explicit statements of fact requiring no analysis or thought. A + B = C. What's actually currently thought to be known without caveat.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:12
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SplitSoul posted:Wait, what did I miss? Study claiming the exact opposite just made the rounds in Danish media a few days ago. UK data over the last like forever Iirc first conclusions were 10-12% of infected kids (whether symptomatic or asymptomatic) get long covid but most recent estimate I saw ballparked it at 8%
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Aug 16, 2021 22:54
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Got my Only Trust Your Respirator shirt Fits good, feels good
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Aug 17, 2021 01:02
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My sister in law got married about a month ago and we have been ostracized for not coming (my wife had been matron of honor). If that 150 person Pittsburgh wedding wasn’t enough, just found out they just got back from a week long honeymoon on a cruise. If they don’t see any consequences yet again I don’t know. Why are we torturing ourselves. Is covid even real. The world is a gently caress
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Aug 17, 2021 01:38
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mastershakeman posted:Went out to dinner indoors in downtown Chicago So from what I’ve gleaned. You have unvaccinated kids. Your wife has not cared at all about quarantining or protecting the kids or you. You read all of the information in this thread. But you haven’t changed much at all in the way of your normal behaviors. Is this wrong? The biggest conflict I remember was you had a pool party and locked yourself inside or something but the kids and wife were mingling with all the friends and fam? Not calling you out to be rude. You just really give me this sense of whiplash when I read your posts. I don’t understand you. The only thing I take issue with is giving advice recommending people put kids in school for social interaction when you aren’t protecting yours.
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Aug 17, 2021 01:54
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probably should get a booster soon though
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mastershakeman posted:This is the riskiest thing I've done by far, I've mainly given up and very much changed behavior. I went out once to dinner in mid March, pre Delta, after being fully vaccinated when capacity limits were in place. The pool party was someone else but my wife also went to the pool and I hid on a chair with a hat over my head after being freaked out , about a year ago. Different evaluations of risk I guess. We’re continuing to quarantine (curbside restaurants, grocery delivery or curbside, date nights in, etc) until our kid is vaxxed. Kudos to you, it’s an enormous challenge to read this thread and then take a mask off in public like in a restaurant a few feet from the next table or where someone could pass by unmasked at any second. I’m more of an all or nothing sort of person I guess.
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Aug 17, 2021 02:39
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mastershakeman posted:I'm gonna admit half the reason I posted this is to antagonize people. This isnt Melbourne, covid zero isn't happening. Frankly if vaccines were online for kids I might have played it safe but I'm dispirited about the "mid Winter" expectations for it Ha! Well it worked. Surreal tho. You have all the same info I do, unlike the typical lib or chud.
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Aug 17, 2021 03:33
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the water recedes far into the ocean revealing all the mud and muck and trash near the shore adult children cry out with joy, and rush to play in the refuse a vast and uncompromising wall rises up heavy and solid, accelerating, inevitable savor and suffer every moment of anticipation
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Aug 17, 2021 12:44
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literally, word for word, just had someone say "Covid is over. It's only in people's heads, now."
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Aug 17, 2021 12:50
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my work is having CVS come by to give people vaccines. i haven't provided proof of vaccination to HR so that they can't strip me of my mask. should i use the pop up vaccination to get a booster? i'm thinking yes, if there's a good way to get away with it
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Aug 17, 2021 13:47
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:Today can someone make an updated GIF?
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Aug 17, 2021 15:31
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Impkins Patootie posted:is this Tool? a COVID thread original. i call it "LMAO: You Can Only Watch"
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Aug 17, 2021 18:39
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corona familiar posted:i did my best (one of the images were out of order in the album, and i tried to guess dates) thanks! Ohio is doomed!
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Aug 17, 2021 20:06
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thedavid posted:So I thought I'd ask my cspam virologists their opinion.... https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms#part_1 What are the symptoms of COVID-19 if you’re fully vaccinated? Here is the current ranking of COVID symptoms after 2 vaccinations: Headache Runny nose Sneezing Sore throat Loss of smell The previous ‘traditional’ symptoms as still outlined on the government website, such as anosmia (loss of smell), shortness of breath and fever rank way down the list, at 5, 29 and 12 respectively. A persistent cough now ranks at number 8 if you’ve had two vaccine doses, so is no longer the top indicator of having COVID. Curiously, we noticed that people who had been vaccinated and then tested positive for COVID-19 were more likely to report sneezing as a symptom compared with those without a jab. If you’ve been vaccinated and start sneezing a lot without an explanation, you should get a COVID test, especially if you are living or working around people who are at greater risk from the disease.
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Aug 18, 2021 19:17
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thedavid posted:Thanks for that. I did got to the cdc website and did their little wizard thing and it was like "LOL. LMAO. Call a doc I guess?" the only risk we take, that we're forced to take, is that i come to work every day since 6/1. this morning the guy in the office not far from me would. not. stop. sneezing. multiple people with persistent coughs. just the summer flu season! open biden
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Aug 18, 2021 19:31
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Thoguh posted:The other day my wife let a neighbor that we were talking to in the driveway hold our baby because he put on a mask so it was safe. Just imagining this sends me into a panic and a rage. Thank all the gods my partner and I are on the same page Your kid is a loving newborn!!!!!!!! gently caress!!!
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Aug 18, 2021 23:13
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The only family that was quarantining as hard as us for their same age toddler has started to take unacceptable risks so now my wife will really be alone all day. Really tough emotionally, socially, for the kid’s socialization. No idea what to do. I suggested something like posting a jitsi link in this thread or via PMs but our kid doesn’t pay much attention to computer screens, not the same. Thinking we’ll just focus on making the basement a great playground for him and rotate the equipment out frequently so it stays fresh. Wife doesn’t have many pastimes and no like online socialization. Had to stop working while pregnant then a week after the kid was born went into lockdown so no job hunt.
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Aug 21, 2021 03:27
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i switched pediatricians recently because after the CDC mask burning party our old pediatrician honest to god fought us to put on a loving mask during the last appointment. so i haven't been to the new pediatrician yet. how do i ask them for off label covid vaccine for my kid without coming off as a kook or loony and instead like a responsible parent? 18 month appointment is mid Sept was thinking of submitting a question through their online portal: can you please evaluate our child for off label administration of pfizer covid-19 vaccine based on the recent FDA approval?
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Aug 23, 2021 19:10
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:No big changes, but posting anyway. delaware been full red for a couple days and NJ is lighting up finally
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Aug 23, 2021 19:11
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tangy yet delightful posted:Saagar (Breaking Points, formerly The Rising) has COVID and mentioned this morning that (roughly) "Delta is very infectious and I could have gotten it anywhere" and since he was vaccinated that definitely helped him have a mild case so he "didn't seek medical care to not overburden the system" and then uses those correct points to continue wanting schools to open. the only good thing about those shows ever has been krystal ball because she can convey authenticity and even she rides this weird line sometimes like a glenn greenwald or jimmy dore like almost libertarian except on the left, a tainted socdem, idk. deliberate branding ofc in order to maximize viewership haven't watched almost since the dem primary, just remember episodes without Krystal were total trash. tried Breaking Points a few times but the covid poo poo just completely pissed me off.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:18
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Topo Chico Debarge posted:if someone does find a tele-doc that is down, lemme know.
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Aug 23, 2021 19:47
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I'm overwhelmed with sadness and despair more than anger and frustration lately. i've found myself drifting away from the new and interesting activities i used to ground myself throughout this insanity also emotionally paralyzed finding all i can do at times is doomscroll this thread
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Aug 23, 2021 19:49
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my work is having a pop up pfizer vaccine clinic through cvs this thursday (i did pfizer through walgreens in late march + late april). the sign up is through the cvs website. i signed up, didn't provide insurance info or driver's license info, as my first shot (not third). we'll see how it goes
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Aug 23, 2021 20:55
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What are some clear familiar brief analogies to show why you can’t divide by total number vaccinated in order to calculate breakthrough %?
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Aug 23, 2021 22:03
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Pillowpants posted:Who wants to know HHS numbers? Updated at 9am what is normal? is there historic data? thinking about that chud talking point that hospitals are usually understaffed so "full"
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Aug 24, 2021 16:02
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Nocturtle posted:NYC data also still consistent with an overall CFR of 1.4%, hospitalization rate of ~8% and hospitalization death rate of ~20%. This seems very similar to last year. Guessing the main impact of the vaccines is to drastically increase the number of asymptomatic and unreported cases. Once a case is detected and tested the likelihood of hospitalization and death is about the same pre-vaccine. Possibly because mostly unvaccinated people are still getting hospitalized and dying. The vaccines are just like the magic surfactant chemical they used after Deepwater Horizon to make the oil invisible
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Aug 24, 2021 23:39
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Asproigerosis posted:What an incredible time to decide to go to Wawa. The parking lot is popular location for the local car moders to netflix and chill or whatever. So there were some of them there tonight. The highway next to the parking lot is being repaved and has at least 10 separate state patrol cars of brave troops bored out of their minds stealing triple overtime of my tax dollars protecting the construction crews. From the parking lot alone you could see the lights from 5 of their tahoes. One of the driftyboys decides it's a genius idea to start doing donuts in the parking lot. Cops didn't like that so two of them roll into the parking lot to plant drugs and summary execute this person. Well the car guy decides the best action is to peel out from the parking lot and try to escape the cops. can i just tell you how much i appreciate wawa curbside? app amazing, ultra quick. even for like a half gallon of milk or whatever, takes 3 seconds.
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Aug 25, 2021 15:21
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just got my 3rd pfizer shot at work. the signup was through work but through the CVS website. i did the no insurance thing but then when i got to the conference room they wanted my insurance info. i was like "ahh i don't have it" and the HR lady who was coordinating the vax clinic said she'd give the group number from her card. oh well. hoping this doesn't knock me flat. the first two shots were extremely mild for me.
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Aug 26, 2021 14:46
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brugroffil posted:No it won't I’m like 100 pages behind but have to say, just generally, this thread has underpredicted how bad things got. Sure, inaccurate on a number of things, but in general and going back to early 2020, not doomer enough.
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Aug 29, 2021 03:47
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I’m over two days post booster and the only side effect was arm felt like hit by a baseball bat.
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Aug 29, 2021 03:50
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WaryWarren posted:NOLA is the only city worth a drat in this $hithole country. gently caress. Having lived in Louisiana for three years, I don’t understand. What the heck are you people who love it talking about? Louisiana is the most backward state in the USA (completely captured by oil & gas, horrifying wealth disparity, to begin a long list) and NOLA is mediocre at the very best.
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Aug 31, 2021 08:48
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BIG HORNY COW posted:Flying for the first time since 2019 and the guy next to us on the plane did the whole "If I eat and drink constantly I don't have to wear a mask" move. holy hell that would be so stressful. just have to trust you're protected.
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Aug 31, 2021 15:49
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VomitOnLino posted:Since we're exchanging CRACK/PINGS and other helpful ideas here anyway: a goon recommended some awesome scissors to me so we bought them and a kit and now my wife & I cut each other's hair (and our baby's). it's great and saves a lot of money. she's gotten as good as a salon IMO, at least for my specific wannabe ryan gosling haircut, and i've gotten pretty good at dyeing and bleaching too lol
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Aug 31, 2021 16:04
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LionArcher posted:here’s an open secret about frozen one. nobody, and I mean nobody at the studio or in the biz thought it was a good movie or worked. IMO they broke out of the hetero love, damsel in distress mold and got rewarded for it. not that any lessons were learned
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Aug 31, 2021 16:21
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Asproigerosis posted:Director at my side hospital job called me, tears in her eyes, begging me to work because 2 of the 3 nuclear medicine techs are out with covid so it's just one guy working. I said NO! I have to cover for my main job with half the staff out with covid already. which hospitals? your primary is down in middletown right? have you heard how ai dupont or christiana are doing?
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Aug 31, 2021 20:44
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I honestly didn’t realize he got so much hate, wow
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Aug 31, 2021 22:39
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crepeface posted:covid vaccine tier list Cuban vaccine can get the B
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Sep 1, 2021 03:46
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Shere posted:I constantly have to stop myself and ask if I'm loving insane for caring when everyone around me seems to not give a gently caress. It's like being gaslit every single day and recognizing that is the only thing that keeps me going. I have to categorize what I'm doing as personal agency, like owning a gun to defend myself or setting up a home security system. No one can be expected to watch out for my own well being but me, it seems. It's not that other people don't care, it's that they're reliant on someone else alerting them that they should care about something and in the absence of that their default state is willful ignorance - if something serious enough were going on surely Someone would tell them about it. (Someone here being a hypothetical authority figure that they assume is in charge of Telling Them About Important Things). the worst for us is our large extended families have been completely untouched. oh, a great aunt died (not covid!!) or whatever. literally nothing about their lifestyle changed in the last 1.5 years except for some people being WFH no one has gotten to touch the baby, one person drove out and met him from 6 feet away, masked, one time edit: and vacations! many vacations, florida, dc, just a few weeks ago on A loving CRUISE. NO CONSEQUENCES!!! am I the crazy one???
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triple sulk posted:lol at this poo poo idiot country. open up and let everyone die. third impact this bitch
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