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I can't wait for Truths from a Manhattan Courthouse Jail
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Truths from Manhattan Jail, by Donald Truther King
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Apr 23, 2024 17:57
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Oil! posted:I can't wait for Truths from a Manhattan Courthouse Jail It's going to be like when they put George Bluth in solitary and he started hawking videos.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:57
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Merchan will never jail him. It will Not Happen.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:57
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Wayback posted:Escalating massive fines is probably the way to go and it has shut him up a bit in the past. He seems to desperately want to be thrown in jail with all the fundraising and "they're going to jail me tomorrow" messages he's been sending. Definitely a tough call for the judge since anyone else looking cross-eyed at the jury would have been bond revoked a while ago. I'm not sure they can escalate the fines. $1000 appears to be the statutory max.
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Apr 23, 2024 18:01
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Caros posted:I'm not sure they can escalate the fines. $1000 appears to be the statutory max. correct, the only remaining escalation after he gets fined today (other than more $1000/count fines) is jail
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Apr 23, 2024 18:05
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The judge should publicly ask the bailiff if he is prepared to take the defendant into custody
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Apr 23, 2024 18:14
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Trump wanting his followers to come down and show how they really feel. Which they are, but he's just not listening. https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1782769485138534662
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Apr 23, 2024 18:21
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It's a pipe dream. Trump *might* get fined. But he won't be jailed. He could take a poo poo on the Judge's bench and it wouldn't get him held in contempt
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Apr 23, 2024 18:24
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Tesseraction posted:The AG's team have already said they are not asking for jail time yet, just financial punishment. Likely they are saving any jail request for after he gets found in contempt then violates again so they can argue fines were tried and didn’t work. For this reason Trump’s attorneys will actually have more luck getting him to vague-post instead of explicitly naming people the court says he can’t when jail really looks like it’s on the table. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Apr 23, 2024 18:25
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Pecker is giving it really hard right now to Trump.
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Apr 23, 2024 18:25
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Caros posted:I'm not sure they can escalate the fines. $1000 appears to be the statutory max. Apply surveillance capitalism rules and pay-per-impression!
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Apr 23, 2024 18:30
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So apparently trial transcripts are going to be posted on the court websites within one business day for the new York trial, meaning we should have a full transcript posted for yesterday's proceedings within the next few hours. Not as good as actual audio or video, but definitely an improvement to trying to keep up via tweet.
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Apr 23, 2024 18:36
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Caros posted:So apparently trial transcripts are going to be posted on the court websites within one business day for the new York trial, meaning we should have a full transcript posted for yesterday's proceedings within the next few hours. The NYT, WaPo, and The Guardian all have live posting from the courtroom.
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Apr 23, 2024 18:39
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I’m a fan of Cohen saying Trump was too racist to have a love child with a Hispanic woman. I even believe it.
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Apr 23, 2024 18:40
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Tesseraction posted:Truths from Manhattan Jail, by Donald Truther King Mein Truth by Donald Trump
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Apr 23, 2024 18:42
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Deteriorata posted:The NYT, WaPo, and The Guardian all have live posting from the courtroom. True, but same difference. A transcript tends to be easier to read and more precise. Edit: Lol, the judge instructed jurors to report anyone trying to bribe them. Can't imagine why. Caros fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Apr 23, 2024 18:55
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The Guardian posted:Donald Trump addressed the media in the hallway outside the courtroom, complaining that it was “totally freezing” inside, per pool. what if it's normal temperature and he's dying. everyone keeps saying he looks like poo poo
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Apr 23, 2024 19:27
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Old person complains room is cold. News at 11.
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Apr 23, 2024 19:40
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Madkal posted:Mein Truth by Donald Trump Ok this is right there with white power nap
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Apr 23, 2024 19:43
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Caros posted:Edit: Lol, the judge instructed jurors to report anyone trying to bribe them. Can't imagine why. Why isn't this jury being sequestered as strongly as humanly possible
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Apr 23, 2024 19:47
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Madkal posted:Mein Truth by Donald Trump Me In Kamp F by Donald Trump.
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Apr 23, 2024 19:55
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haveblue posted:Why isn't this jury being sequestered as strongly as humanly possible Because that would suck and they don't like to sequester juries
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Apr 23, 2024 20:11
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haveblue posted:Why isn't this jury being sequestered as strongly as humanly possible Juries need to make some scratch on the side too. You wouldn't prohibit that, would you?
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Apr 23, 2024 20:11
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Fart Amplifier posted:Because that would suck and they don't like to sequester juries I get that, but in a case like this where the safety and/or integrity of the jurors could be threatened you'd think they'd almost have to.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:23
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I watched a plea once where a dude got charged with jury tampering He had been on trial for like armed robbery and got a mistrial that nobdy understood because it seemed pretty open and shut Turns out, during a lunch break during trial, defendant went down the street to the diner and just bumped into one of the jurors, offered to pay him off, juror took the money Whole thing was captured on the diners' surveillance camera literally every bill being counted out clear as day Funny part is the sentence for jury tampering was just ten years and he was facing 25 for the armed robbery anyway, so, not a bad risk really. He ended up pleading to both but didn't get any more time net than he would've on just the robbery. Sentenced concurrently.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:23
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similar thing happened to a friend of mine on trial for giving a bottle of water to a woman in a voting line in georgia
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Apr 23, 2024 20:24
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I watched a plea once where a dude got charged with jury tampering How much does it take to bribe a juror, asking for a friend
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Apr 23, 2024 20:27
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:How much does it take to bribe a juror, asking for a friend I think it was like $300? Plus, you know, also catching their own set of charges.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:34
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Staluigi posted:as far as i am concerned this is the point where we are pretty done testing "the court is being careful to just give him rope to hang himself with, contempt of court would just empower him" to "the court is scared to hold him to any meaningful standard of contempt that applies to the non-powerful" Because he legitimately hasn't hit the level for 'contempt' yet. It's a shockingly high bar to clear for any decent judge. And unfortunately they're not allowed to use your actions in other cases to start with higher penalties. And the reason why the highest fine is 1000 is so a judge can't ruin a poor defendant so easily. If you could fine someone millions for being a dick in court, that would absolutely be used to annihilate a poor person who pissed off a bad judge. And you can't just scale it to their wealth because the bad judge would find way to abuse that. I assume that some judges being pieces of poo poo about that sort of thing is why it is the way it is. Regulations get written in blood and such. Though if Trump keeps it up he might be getting actual charges brought against him, dumbass.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:41
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Kchama posted:Because he legitimately hasn't hit the level for 'contempt' yet. It's a shockingly high bar to clear for any decent judge.. He's being charged with violating a gag order which is similar to but not necessarily the same thing as contempt. That said his statements to the media from the courthouse probably could qualify as contempt. Judges have shocking latitude on contempt charges. They can sentence summarily with no trial if it happens in front of them and "in front of" can mean "around the courthouse". Contempt is whatever the judge says it is.
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Apr 23, 2024 20:47
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Left Wing media and the judicial system doing an amazing job of making Alina Habba look incompetent. https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1782889521203306933
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Apr 23, 2024 22:56
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Nitrousoxide posted:Meanwhile, while the contempt of court motion is being heard in court. Ah, yes. Everyone knows that "free speech" means you get to say whatever you want, whenever you want during a criminal trial. 
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Apr 23, 2024 23:52
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This man made me laugh https://twitter.com/traecrowder/status/1782886465070129265
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Apr 24, 2024 00:32
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Secret Service prepares for if Trump is jailed for contempt in hush money casequote:The U.S. Secret Service held meetings and started planning for what to do if former President Donald Trump were to be held in contempt in his criminal hush money trial and Judge Juan Merchan opted to send him to short-term confinement, officials familiar with the situation told ABC News.
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Apr 24, 2024 00:33
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A part of me is actually legitimately concerned if he's trying to do this on purpose to further rally his base and trying to pull a Hitler.
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Apr 24, 2024 00:35
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Cimber posted:This man made me laugh That's his job, he's a comedian. I follow his The Liberal Redneck channel on YouTube, and maybe you should too!
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Apr 24, 2024 00:42
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Raenir Salazar posted:A part of me is actually legitimately concerned if he's trying to do this on purpose to further rally his base and trying to pull a Hitler. That's his fantasy, anyway. He was also expecting huge crowds in the streets rioting during the trial, and you can see how that's gone.
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Apr 24, 2024 00:44
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Raenir Salazar posted:A part of me is actually legitimately concerned if he's trying to do this on purpose to further rally his base and trying to pull a Hitler. Trump can't write a book by himself. He needs a ghost writer, and he can't get one right now.
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Cimber posted:Ouch: Just a reminder that I Toxxed awhile back that Trump won't set foot in a prison, including house arrest. He violated the poo poo out of that gag order and won't see a day of confinement over it.  As with all of this, the gag order is just theater to make people think the legal system might actually do something about Trump's crimes. It won't be enforced. Hey, how is NY doing with taking Trump's poo poo? A month ago this thread was saying it was a pretty swift process there and should be happening pretty quick. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) The Bible fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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