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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Season 14 Vote Results
Voting has ended, the results for this season are as follows:

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No) 8 votes yes, 12 votes no, proposal does not pass.

2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No) 4 votes yes, 16 votes no, proposal does not pass.

3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None) 1 and 2 did not pass, so this is moot, but we had 12 votes for a third flex, 2 votes for IDP, 5 for none, proposal does not pass

4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No) 6 votes yes, 12 votes no, proposal does not pass

5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No) 10 votes yes, 9 votes no, Proposal passes!



PROPOSALS FOR SEASON 15
1. Propose we remove the TE slot and replace it with a flex position
2. Trades will need (2 days/8 veto votes, 1 day/8 veto votes, instant/no veto votes) to process.

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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Welcome to Season 14 of the 20 team fantasy league! This is your commissioner Silly Burrito, and I am ready for some football, are you? Our current draft is tentatively scheduled for Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 8PM EASTERN TIME. This is subject to change if necessary.

New for this year TL;DR if you don't read anything else: Last year's proposals were voted on, results above.

MEMBERS:
Priority goes to the players who got into the league last year. If you want in for 2022, post in THIS THREAD OR THE LEAGUE PAGE ON ESPN by Aug. 14th or your spot will be given up. If you changed your username or team name, let us know. Second priority goes to wait list people. If you want to be added to the wait list, post and we will add you first come first serve. When voting, please remember to post your team name to help me keep everything straight. The list of last year's players below will start us off, and we'll go from there.

CONFIRMED SEASON 14 PLAYERS:
AAAAA! Real Muenster
ASAPRockySituation
Braksgirl
chrix
commish
darkwolf220
EconDad
Eltoasto
jabro
Lock
Ninja Bob
Pain of Mind
pmchem
Power of Pecota
Quiet Feet
ShakeZula
Silly Burrito
Thom and the Heads
tuckfard
Worthleast

SEASON 14 TEAMS:
Akron Peppercorns (Power of Pecota)
ArchimeDEEZ NUTS (AAAAA! Real Muenster)
Baller Status (commish)
Boudin Ballers (Silly Burrito)
Chem's Cylons (pmchem)
Deflated Bush (jabro)
Discount Double Champ (ASAPRockySituation)
Electric Blue (EconDad)
Flowers for Edgerrin (ShakeZula)
Inwards Topwise (Worthleast)
Lock Picks (Lock)
M. Night Shanahan (Pain of Mind)
Naptown Sleepers (chrix)
Placeholder Name (Ninja Bob)
Rated R Superstars (tuckfard)
Seattle Fraisers (darkwolf220)
Shelbyville Sharks (Thom and the Heads)
Spinnin Freeneys (Eltoasto)
Taco Tuesday (Braksgirl)
Washington Washingtons (Quiet Feet)

WAIT LIST FOR 2023:

DIVISION CHANGES:
If you'd like to change your division, you may find someone to swap with and I'll make the change. If someone doesn't come back for season 14, this is the list for people who could potentially move into that divisional spot (if they so desire, it's not mandatory).

ROSTER BREAKDOWN:
Here are the current roster requirements.

1 QB
1 RB
1 WR
2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
1 TE
1 D/ST
1 K
1 Punter
5 Bench spots
2 IR

DRAFT:
We will be doing a live online draft. Please plan your schedules accordingly. Set your rankings or get a friend to draft for you if need be. Draft order will be randomized after the league is officially filled but the commissioners (Silly Burrito/Braksgirl) can be bribed with boudin balls (me) or bacon (her).

LEAGUE SCHEDULING:
Just like last year, the playoffs are from weeks 15-17. We will just shift the games using the same tool so that you should play a couple of different conference games and out of conference games. This year, with

-8 division games
-4 conference games
-2 out of conference games

We keep the same divisions. The AFC (Marino, Namath) and NFC (Montana, Romo) conferences will be placed on other ends of the real playoffs when the time comes.

SCORING:




PLAYOFF BERTHS:
The playoff berths are calculated based on the actual rules that the NFL has. Yes, this is a pain in the rear end, but it's a pain in the rear end of a labor of love, or something like that. Eight out of twenty of you happy assholes get in. Four division champions, two wild card berths in each conference. IGNORE ANY ESPN PLAYOFF SEEDINGS AS THE CALCULATIONS WILL BE POSTED IN THE THREAD.

LEAGUE LINKS:
Main League Page
Emergency Discord, not really used

HALL OF HONOR:
Season 01: Yaphet / J-City Rockstars [Joe Montana Division]
Season 02: bbf2 / Plaxico's Hand gun Emporium [Dan Marino Division]
Season 03: bbf2 / Stevie J's Hand gun Emporium [Dan Marino Division]
Season 04: JuicedSixFo / Zoltan Mesko [Dan Marino Division]
Season 05: chrix / Naptown Sleepers [Bart Starr/Tony Romo Division]
Season 06: Braksgirl / Taco Tuesday [Dan Marino Division]
Season 07: commish / Baller Status [Joe Namath Division]
Season 08: Diqnol / Discount Double Champ [Joe Montana Division]
Season 09: darkwolf220 / Seattle Fraisers [Joe Montana Division]
Season 10: Eltoasto / Spinnin Freeneys [Joe Namath Division]
Season 11: Lock / Chubb Hunter [Dan Marino Division]
Season 12: Quiet Feet / Washington Washingtons [Dan Marino Division]
Season 13: Ninja Bob / Placeholder Name [Joe Namath Division]
:siren: Season 14: Pain of Mind / M. Night Shanahan [Joe Namath Division] AND Thom and the Heads / Shelbyville Sharks [Joe Montana Division] :siren:

GANG TAG:
This is the 20 Team Championship gang tag for anyone who has won this league. Ain't it a beaut?



DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIPS:
Dan Marino: 6
Joe Montana: 4
Joe Namath: 4
Tony Romo: 1

LEAGUE HISTORY:
Season 14 - I'd like at least a shot of claiming Geno Smith on waivers
Season 13 - The Fear of Triskaidekaphobia
Season 12 - Winning is Contagious
Season 11 - Now Entering 2 Decades of Bad Picks
Season 10 - Under NEW Management
Season 09 - The Final Sunday?
Season 08 - The Thing Still Exists?
Season 07 - What the gently caress is Wrong With Us?
Season 06 - Still Not as Tough as the SEC
Season 05 - The Only Place Dan Marino Gets a Ring
Season 04 - Bounty Programs Aint Crazy Y'all
Season 03 - More Nuts than CBA Arguments
Season 02 - Still loving Nuts
Season 01 - Let's Go Nuts

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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Team Name: Boudin Ballers

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (None)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (No)


Victory Cry (optional): You cannot hope to defeat me, you can only hope I defeat myself. Or start Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Team Name: Discount Double Champ

1.) Propose we remove defenses (Yes)
2.) Propose we remove kickers (No)
3.) 3rd flex
4.) No, I want them REMOVED
5.) Propose we add punters (:sickos:)

Victory Cry: I almost always make playoffs so you should probably try to gently caress me over in the draft.

Braksgirl
Dec 25, 2010

Unofficial Goon Disney travel agent since 2014!

Tens of Goons served!


Team Name: Taco Tuesday

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (No)

Victory Cry (optional): Taco Tuesday is here, but I'm tired.

commish
Sep 17, 2009

Yes, no, 3rd flex.

How do we score punters? Avg distance? Inside the 20?

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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commish posted:

Yes, no, 3rd flex.

How do we score punters? Avg distance? Inside the 20?

If it passes, we can discuss/vote on it, but I saw this last year and thought it would be a good starting point:

Punts inside the 20 (PT20) = 1 point
Punts inside the 10 (PT10) = 2 points
Fair Catches (PTFC) = 1 point
Touchbacks (PTTB) = -1 point

Edit: What are your votes on 4&5, commish?

Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jun 25, 2022

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Team Name: Flowers for Edgerrin

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No) Yes
2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No) No
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None) 3rd flex
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No) No
5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No) No

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
:siren: I am changing my team name since it has lost for 13 straight seasons
(old) Team Name: San Francisco PoM
(new) Team Name: M. Night Shanahan

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No) Yes
2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No) Yes
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None) - Either 3rd flex or IDP, so really subtract a vote from none
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No) Yes if we keep defenses
5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No) No - I cannot think of something I would be less interested in.

Kind of surprised getting rid of defenses is so far more popular than getting rid of kickers. They both suck, but I think the main problem with our defenses is that they score way too many points, which default settings would lower.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Old Team Name: Deflated Bush
New Team Name: ?????

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (None)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (No)

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Team Name: Spinnin Freeneys

1. Propose we remove defenses - No
2. Propose we remove kickers - No
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None) - 3rd Flex
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring - Yes
5. Propose we add punters - No

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
(old) Team Name: High Hrothgar Housecarls
(new) Team Name: Shelbyville Sharks

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No) Yes
2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No) No
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None) - none
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No) Yes if we keep defenses
5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No) No

Victory Cry: FantasyPros gives me an 89 percent chance of losing in the playoffs.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Team Name: Washington Washingtons

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (IDP)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

Victory Cry (optional): You must defeat sheng long to stand a chance!

And some random commentary

1: I kinda sorta get why people want to remove defenses in more standard leagues (and still don't agree with it) but come on, this league is maximum chaos. Why are you even here if not for your D/ST to outscore the rest of your starting lineup?
2: Pretty much the same as above but with the added caveats that kickers are a hell of a lot more consistent than D/STs. And for that matter, most will put up more points in a season than the average TE will. Even in half ppr. gently caress tight ends.
3: I'd like to keep both obviously but if we did get rid of either I vote bringing in IDPs for maximum chaos.
4: ESPN standard defense scoring is pretty weak and un-fun.
5: Hell yes max chaos.

No chance of putting it to a vote to get rid of the TE slot and make tight ends just a flex position?

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




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Team Name: Electric Blue

1. Propose we remove defenses ... NO
2. Propose we remove kickers ... NO
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all ... 3RD FLEX
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring... NO
5. Propose we add punters ... YES (but only because I mentioned it as a joke and for some reason other people are voting yes).

Victory Cry: Electric Blue gon' shock you and knock you down. But never in the playoffs, only in the regular season.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Quiet Feet posted:

No chance of putting it to a vote to get rid of the TE slot and make tight ends just a flex position?

For simplicity's sake and unless everyone disagrees, it would just be easier to keep the proposals from last season (especially since other people have already voted) and add this to next year's proposals if you want.

chrix
Jan 3, 2004

Football man, the guy with the football plan





Team Name: Naptown Sleepers

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (No)

Victory Cry (optional): ZZZzzzzzzzz.........

Ninja Bob
Nov 20, 2002




Bleak Gremlin
Team Name: Placeholder Name

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Silly Burrito posted:

For simplicity's sake and unless everyone disagrees, it would just be easier to keep the proposals from last season (especially since other people have already voted) and add this to next year's proposals if you want.

Fair.

I want to also add, I'm against a 3rd flex because rosters are already so thin. That's not fun, that's, just putting in another position that's gonna get 1.6 points and is likely to have less impact than either of the positions that would have been removed.

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Team Name: Akron Peppercorns

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

Victory Cry (optional): Chaos reigns, my team doesn't~

I'll text W. E. about this tomorrow and see if he's back in/what his votes are

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Power of Pecota posted:


I'll text W. E. about this tomorrow and see if he's back in/what his votes are

Thanks. If he still doesn’t want to join the forum, he can leave his votes in the league smack talk section on the ESPN league page. I copied the vote template there as well.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Quiet Feet posted:

Fair.

I want to also add, I'm against a 3rd flex because rosters are already so thin. That's not fun, that's, just putting in another position that's gonna get 1.6 points and is likely to have less impact than either of the positions that would have been removed.

In my mind the benefit of a 3rd flex would be a slight reduction in the number of times you make the wrong choice between two players and watch a guy pile up points on your bench while your starter gets 1.6. But then, that is also a foundational element of fantasy football, so...

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




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I feel like another FLEX just adds more fun, in the form of just moving us further down the meta rabbit hole of bad choices. You now get to make the wrong choice between even worse players! What could be more 20 team SA than that?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


EconDad posted:

I feel like another FLEX just adds more fun, in the form of just moving us further down the meta rabbit hole of bad choices. You now get to make the wrong choice between even worse players! What could be more 20 team SA than that?

Keeping defense and kickers.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




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Well then keep we must.

darkwolf220
May 14, 2009

SOON :stare:

Once again, into the breech.

Team Name: Seattle Frasiers
1: No
2: No
3: No
4: No
5: Sure

Victory Cry (optional): Please make this stop, I want to get off now.

Worthleast
Nov 25, 2012

Possibly the only speedboat jumps I've planned

Still interested in a spot if one opens up.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Worthleast posted:

Still interested in a spot if one opens up.

Thanks! Have you on the list if one does and the ones in front drop.

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




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Is it time to draft yet?

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


just confirming my wait list status, if pecota's friend or whoever else doesn't return

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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pmchem posted:

just confirming my wait list status, if pecota's friend or whoever else doesn't return

You're at the top of the waitlist. Right now we have five players from last year who haven't returned. I'm going to send out another PM/email in August, but if someone hasn't returned after August 14th, you're up!

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

pmchem posted:

just confirming my wait list status, if pecota's friend or whoever else doesn't return

I haven't heard anything from him so far, so I think you've got a good chance there.

Thanks!

tuckfard
Dec 9, 2003

Just chillin
Team Name: RATED R SUPERSTARS

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (IDP)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (No)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

Victory Cry: Probably another 7-6 season

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Reminder PMs and emails have been sent for the league. If you've already posted in here, you're good to go.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





I got curious and did the numbers on the voting so far. Questions 1 and 2 have 16 votes in. Questions 3 4 and 5 only have 15. Pain of Mind didn't care about either 3rd flex or IDP so I didn't include their vote for that question. Forums user Commish didn't vote on either question 4 or 5!

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No)

6 Yes
10 No


2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No)

2 Yes
14 No

3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None)

9 3rd Flex
2 idp
4 None


4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No)

5 Yes
10 No

5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No)

7 Yes
8 No


If you have ever loved punting, now is the time to vote for punters!

EconDad
Jul 20, 2013

you talkin' to me Sheriff?

oh... I thought you was talkin' to me.




THOSE DAMN ENCHILADAS

Quiet Feet posted:

I got curious and did the numbers on the voting so far. Questions 1 and 2 have 16 votes in. Questions 3 4 and 5 only have 15. Pain of Mind didn't care about either 3rd flex or IDP so I didn't include their vote for that question. Forums user Commish didn't vote on either question 4 or 5!

1. Propose we remove defenses (Yes/No)

6 Yes
10 No


2. Propose we remove kickers (Yes/No)

2 Yes
14 No

3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP/None)

9 3rd Flex
2 idp
4 None


4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes/No)

5 Yes
10 No

5. Propose we add punters (Yes/No)

7 Yes
8 No


If you have ever loved punting, now is the time to vote for punters!

So basically the only thing possible for a change is the punting one. Interesting.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




I am out this season.

Silly Burrito
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Fate Accomplice posted:

I am out this season.

Understood, thank you for playing!

Pmchem, you're up! Please PM me your email and I'll send you an invite.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Silly Burrito posted:

Understood, thank you for playing!

Pmchem, you're up! Please PM me your email and I'll send you an invite.

thanks, sent!

on to the requested template...

Team Name: Chem's Cylons

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP) (both)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

I see that punters are a close vote. I run a different ESPN league with punters using the below settings, it's hilarious fun:



Mostly boring, say 6-10 points a week. But every now and then someone dumps a bunch of punts inside the ten for a 15 point game. Or a returner houses one and the punter gets negative points. It keeps things lively. Plus you learn more about special teams units. Highly recommend.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





pmchem posted:

thanks, sent!

on to the requested template...

Team Name: Chem's Cylons

1. Propose we remove defenses (No)
2. Propose we remove kickers (No)
3. If proposals #1 or #2 pass, replace it with either a 3rd flex/IDP/or nothing at all (3rd flex/IDP) (both)
4. Propose we revert defenses to ESPN standard scoring (Yes)
5. Propose we add punters (Yes)

I see that punters are a close vote. I run a different ESPN league with punters using the below settings, it's hilarious fun:



Mostly boring, say 6-10 points a week. But every now and then someone dumps a bunch of punts inside the ten for a 15 point game. Or a returner houses one and the punter gets negative points. It keeps things lively. Plus you learn more about special teams units. Highly recommend.

That looks good to me.

Is the draft time/date on ESPN right?

Randomly looked at my team last year and I can't believe I managed a 3rd place finish. The only starting caliber RB I had was Chris Carson and he predictably got injured, and then it was all handcuffs after that.

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Nov 27, 2007

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Quiet Feet posted:


Is the draft time/date on ESPN right?


Yes, it should be Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 8PM Eastern / 7PM Central.

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