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This is a thread for the hugely anticipated History of the Targ, Part 1. ft. Matt Smith: Former member of The Smiths, known for such hits such as Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman and Morpheus. House of the Dragon is the prequel to the Game of Thrones HBO show, it follows House Targaryen throughout the War of Succession, and is what GRRM is currently focused on instead of writing Winds. The first episode airs August 21, 2022 on HBO Max. Season 1 will run 10 episodes, with endless options for renewal.
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Hopefully this isn’t more like Lous(y) of the Drag-on! AM I RITE
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Aug 18, 2022 18:34
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I just don't see how it can be a better story than Bran the Broken's
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Aug 18, 2022 18:38
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raaar
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Aug 18, 2022 18:39
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looks like they made Paddy Considine king, just noticed. 
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Aug 18, 2022 18:40
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controversial take but I think this show will be reasonably entertaining
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Aug 18, 2022 18:50
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romanowski posted:controversial take but I think this show will be reasonably entertaining Definitely, I have high hopes for this.
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Aug 18, 2022 19:06
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Hows about you be dragon these nuts across your face
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Aug 18, 2022 19:15
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Showrunners are: Ryan J. Condal - creator of mediocre show called Colony and writer of mediocre The Rock movies Miguel Sapochnik - good director but literally not a writer at all So my expectations are essentially rock-bottom.
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Aug 18, 2022 20:07
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i know how this poo poo works, did one of their parents work for Goldman Sachs and the fed?
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Aug 18, 2022 20:14
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I don't really know if this merited a new thread
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Aug 18, 2022 21:20
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you shouldn't really put too much stock into movie writing credits I don't think. I don't know much about that show Colony but nothing I can find about it online makes it seem like a disaster or anything
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Aug 18, 2022 22:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blHoET7H0TY Looks pretty hype, not gonna lie.
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Aug 19, 2022 02:55
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Mameluke posted:I don't really know if this merited a new thread Yeah, is there a reason we're not using this thread anymore? Game of Thrones ended so badly I thought it had killed my interest forever, but I'm contractually obligated to watch this because it has Matt Smith in it and it's either I watch this or Morbius, and at least this MIGHT be good.
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Aug 19, 2022 03:08
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So is this a 1 season deal thing or is it gonna go on for more? haven't read any of the source material
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Aug 19, 2022 06:34
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, is there a reason we're not using this thread anymore? Nobody in the GoT thread remembered it existed is why. If literally one single person had mentioned it we would have just bumped it. Great Sepinwall review based on the first six episodes
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Aug 19, 2022 08:14
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Escobarbarian posted:the GoT thread That's still open!?! 
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Aug 19, 2022 08:51
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Escobarbarian posted:Nobody in the GoT thread remembered it existed is why. If literally one single person had mentioned it we would have just bumped it. Welp, sounds like it has the same issue as the book has in that it's just a series of mundane events happening around an endless line of boring, identically named Targaryans.
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Aug 19, 2022 08:57
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Escobarbarian posted:Showrunners are: Colony was actually quite decent. It had a really good and consistent world building that you rarely see in a multi season sci-fi TV show. The family melodrama sucked of course, but that's a given. The sci-fi plot was really solid though.
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Aug 19, 2022 12:14
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Escobarbarian posted:Nobody in the GoT thread remembered it existed is why. If literally one single person had mentioned it we would have just bumped it. quote:(*) Yes, this is a show featuring prominent characters named both Rhaenyra and Rhaenys. Martin’s names are exasperating under the best of circumstances, but building a show entirely around the Targaryens only indulges the worst of his impulses regarding nomenclature — not only with these spellings, but with so many characters having names that are indistinguishable from their siblings or cousins, often making it impossible to figure out who is being discussed in a given scene. It also forces far too many actors to wear blonde wigs of various degrees of plausibility, with Paddy Considine’s looking particularly bad. For most of its run, GoT only had to wig up Emilia Clarke, and was better for it. He... is aware that this is based off of a book right? He doesn't seem to have much faith in the general viewing audience being able to distinguish between characters because of names and wigs when GoT itself had many characters with samey names and just as many wigs! I generally really like Sepinwall's reviews but I don't know about this one.
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Aug 19, 2022 14:55
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I was kinda dissapointed by that take. You are a professional tv critic, you should be able to keep track of this information!
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Aug 19, 2022 15:04
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On the other hand, a lot of casual viewers of the show, i.e. the majority of viewers, had trouble remembering basic names in GoT. I think it's a fair thing to point out.
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Aug 19, 2022 16:07
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Yeah. In GoT there were some characters with similar names (not nearly as many as the books, mind) but they were usually in completely different setting and storylines - or at the very least they were visually distinct. It sounds like there's going to be a bunch of blond white Targaryans in the same place with the same names. I don't think it's a TV critic's job to put up with poo poo like that if the average viewer could struggle with it. stev fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Aug 19, 2022 16:11
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Dickon, lol
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Aug 19, 2022 16:30
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On a scale from 1 to 8, what are your expectations for the show? I feel like the ceiling is like 6, maybe 5, but perhaps they'll be well served by this being the first season.
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Aug 19, 2022 16:47
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I'm at about a 4. I expect it to be watchable, but I don't expect to be as into it as I was GoT at its height.
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Aug 19, 2022 17:32
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stev posted:Yeah. In GoT there were some characters with similar names (not nearly as many as the books, mind) but they were usually in completely different setting and storylines - or at the very least they were visually distinct. Rhaegar Targaryen had two sons names Aegon.
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Aug 19, 2022 17:40
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I have 0 expectations and intend to be very drunk, so i ought to be reasonably amused the critic complaining about names is vastly underestimating a willing audience's desire to engage with fantasy bullshit tho imo
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Aug 19, 2022 17:41
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SolarFire2 posted:Rhaegar Targaryen had two sons names Aegon. Yet another example of it being hilarious that grrm picked his bimbos for "having read the book," as much of the evidence that Jon's birth name was Aemon actually comes before the red wedding
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Aug 19, 2022 19:45
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Pennsylvanian posted:I'm at about a 4. I expect it to be watchable, but I don't expect to be as into it as I was GoT at its height.
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Aug 19, 2022 20:23
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Isn't season 4 pretty close to peak GoT? Nah you're thinking of 1 and 3 (2 close behind, then 4).
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Aug 19, 2022 20:26
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stev posted:Nah you're thinking of 1 and 3 (2 close behind, then 4).
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Aug 19, 2022 20:43
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season 6 is almost as good as 1-4 and I don't care what anyone says
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Aug 19, 2022 22:22
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Matt Smith has that Hapsburg look going on, so this is pretty good casting.
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Aug 19, 2022 22:46
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I mean, if one of the things you liked about the original GoT books was it being fantasy late medieval/early modern history with some magic, a bunch of incestuous weirdos with the same 3 names politicking is kind of what exactly I want. It's a fair criticism if you're an executive trying to maximize profit, but it's not a good criticism of the show. I haven't spent thousands of hours playing CK2/3 to not enjoy a drama that hinges on a ruler trying to introduce cognatic succession rules against a self-interested conservative noble establishment invested in an agnatic principle.
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Aug 19, 2022 23:01
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Chemtrailologist posted:Matt Smith has that Hapsburg look going on, so this is pretty good casting. There are so many ways to say "Matt Smith is incest-handsome," and I've heard most of them thanks to this show that hasn't even premiered yet.
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Aug 20, 2022 00:55
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Xealot posted:There are so many ways to say "Matt Smith is incest-handsome," and I've heard most of them thanks to this show that hasn't even premiered yet. Didn't he also play Prince Phillip in The Crown?
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Aug 20, 2022 00:59
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stev posted:Didn't he also play Prince Phillip in The Crown? Yeah. It's weird, I haven't seen much of his work since his first season of Dr. Who, he's definitely grown more incest-y looking as he's aged.
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Aug 20, 2022 01:54
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stev posted:Didn't he also play Prince Phillip in The Crown?
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Gresh posted:season 6 is almost as good as 1-4 and I don't care what anyone says Only the finale and that’s only because it’s them clearing the board to focus on the core storylines
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