Getting groin-punched by the invisible hand of the free market: Victoria II

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forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

A

Leave those ridiculous, Godless North Germans to their insanity, so long as they are willing to accept the hegemony of the South German Federation over the Germans in Bohemia & Moravia, and disarm in order to prevent this madness from recurring.

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Dwarsen: Jan 27, 2004; Dungeon Master

B, splitting feels more fun.

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Aeromancia: Jul 23, 2013

B, because making germans unhappy never goes wrong.

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The Sandman: Jun 23, 2013; Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

B, except we return Silesia to its rightful ~~Austrian~~ South German owners.

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Stallion Cabana: Feb 14, 2012; 1; Get into Grad School

2; Become better at playing Tabletop, both as a player and as a GM/ST/W/E

~~3; Get rid of this goddamn avatar.~~

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Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

The Sandman posted:

B, except we return Silesia to its rightful ~~Austrian~~ South German owners.

Well, Liberating Prussia is a 100% warscore goal as is, I can't do more than that.

Besides, Silesia would be 100% wrong culture for me and I've done so much to improve my demographics to make them less minority. Not inclined to get more minorities, whether they be Poles or North Germans.

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Jimmy4400nav: Apr 1, 2011; Ambassador to Moonlandia

Voting A

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YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

Aw I wanted to vote to release Hannover.

Compromising then, voting B to release Prussia.

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Sybot: Nov 8, 2009

A, mostly because releasing Prussia would make North Germany look really weird. Better to just take their guns and let their own population handle the rest.

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ZearothK: Aug 25, 2008; I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Is this a new vote, because we have A case.

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Rejected Fate: Aug 5, 2011

A because peace is good.

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TheMcD: May 4, 2013; Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

B. Smash the North German abomination!

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kaiten80: Oct 31, 2012

I think it's time for A lasting peace in Europe.

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Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

I'll have a map up of what the partition will look like soon. In the mean time, visualize this: rump NGF will be the northwestern corner of Germany, accompanied by a narrow line down the length of the NGF to the SGF border. West of that line is Prussian Rhineland, east of it is the rest of Prussia.

I've decided that if we do this partition plan, Mainz will be the capital of Rump NGF, despite being part of the "narrow line" part rather than the thick part, because Mainz, at 14% Anarcho-Liberal, is the most gung-ho part of rump NGF for the Anarcho-Liberal dictatorship so it makes sense that they'd relocate there. Their highest support anywhere is in Pritzwalk, north of Berlin, at 19%. Yes, the Anarcho-Liberals, even after ruling NGF for 20 years, can't achieve 20% support in any city in all of their territory.

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SavageGentleman: Feb 28, 2010; When she finds love may it always stay true.
This I beg for the second wish I made too.; Fallen Rib

B - eat poo poo, NGF!

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Ethiser: Dec 31, 2011

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sureaboutthatthing: Oct 15, 2013

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CatsPajamas: Jul 4, 2013; I hated the new Stupid Newbie avatar so much that I bought a new one for this user. Congrats, Lowtax.

Voting for A, because I think in this position it would be easy to dominate but it would be more interesting from a story perspective to take a more realistic approach.

Glad to see you keeping up with regular updates, Patter Song! It's always great for Paradox games to have this kind of audience participation, and again I like how you're handling the story. I hope you'll do more Victoria 2 or other Paradox stuff in the future.

Though I am kind of mad this thread got me playing Victoria 2 gain and now I've lost even more hours of my life...

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ThatBasqueGuy: Feb 14, 2013; someone introduce jojo to lazyb

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Duckbox: Sep 7, 2007

Let there be peace in our time! Also, boo to socialism.

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Defeatist Elitist: Jun 17, 2012; I've got a carbon fixation.

A

Maybe without a bourgeois army the glorious peoples' army can rise up and kick out those assholes in charge.

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Veloxyll: May 3, 2011; Fuck you say?!

A For the NGF should learn to solve its problems without soldiers.

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Friend Commuter: Nov 3, 2009; SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.; Smellrose

Veloxyll posted:

A For the NGF should learn to solve its problems without soldiers.

B means they'll have less people to draft.

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Sindai: Jan 24, 2007; i want to achieve immortality through not dying

B. Not so federated now, are you? :smug:

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Rumda: Nov 4, 2009; Moth Lesbian Comrade

A Peace in our Time

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SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

B There can only be One Federation.

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FreeKillB: May 13, 2009

Voting for A and the option of peace.

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Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

I used region mapmode to help me trace.

Oops, screwed up, NGF gets one state more than that. Let me fix the map.

EDIT: Fixed the map, new map is accurate.

Patter Song fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 19, 2014

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SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

Good, now we need to plan the need to cut Prussia down to size when they go crazy.

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Ethiser: Dec 31, 2011

For the love of god people don't let that happen. Won't someone think of the borders? Also like the post above me says we better start making plans to force Prussia to release Poland or something.

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Rogue0071: Dec 8, 2009; Grey Hunter's next target.

A is the way

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Flappy Bert: Dec 11, 2011; I have seen the light, and it is a string

Ethiser posted:

For the love of god people don't let that happen. Won't someone think of the borders? Also like the post above me says we better start making plans to force Prussia to release Poland or something.

It's great borders, they probably won't get military access through rump NGF and so they'll only be able to raise troops from inside the Rhineland, which means that if they get uppity with us we can take it over with ease early in any war.

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i81icu812: Dec 5, 2006

The Pretty Borders faction is getting uppity.

Why give the Prussians any of the Rhineland anyway? Just divide the NGF neatly in half so to keep each other in check.

Or go for maximum Balkans and recreate the HRE.

# ? Jan 19, 2014 23:11

Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

i81icu812 posted:

The Pretty Borders faction is getting uppity.

Why give the Prussians any of the Rhineland anyway? Just divide the NGF neatly in half so to keep each other in check.

Or go for maximum Balkans and recreate the HRE.

That's the map that results if I push the "Liberate Prussia" wargoal.

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SIGSEGV: Nov 4, 2010

Liberate Prussia then console liberate the Rhineland separately. That should be enough.

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Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

SIGSEGV posted:

Liberate Prussia then console liberate the Rhineland separately. That should be enough.

Nah, I'm not tidying that up. If you vote for B you kind of have that coming.

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LordGugs: Oct 16, 2012

Patter Song posted:

Nah, I'm not tidying that up. If you vote for B you kind of have that coming.

Wait I thought B was to liberalte Saxony.

Patter Song posted:

Emergency meeting of the Reichstag

B. We will go to war with North Germany again, to free the people of Saxony. Saxony will receive the former territories of all of the former petty Saxon duchies as well as the Kingdom of Saxony itself, and be a large, industrialized buffer zone between us and North Germany.

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Patter Song: Mar 26, 2010; Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.; Fun Shoe

LordGugs posted:

Wait I thought B was to liberalte Saxony.

We moved on to a runoff vote a bit ago, between A and D. A won over D by 2 votes with far, far less than half of the vote and people pointed out that having one peace option vs three war was unfair.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3595089&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=14#post424626603

# ? Jan 19, 2014 23:36

LordGugs: Oct 16, 2012

Patter Song posted:

We moved on to a runoff vote a bit ago, between A and D. A won over D by 2 votes with far, far less than half of the vote and people pointed out that having one peace option vs three war was unfair.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3595089&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=14#post424626603

Oh well I'm a big dumbbell. My bad.

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Xenoborg: Mar 10, 2007

I don't even think the base game has a tag for the Rhineland

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