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relevant (GUIDs have a similar "non-renewable but abundant" quality)
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:34 |
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so the theory is that the magic the gathering online exchange lost all their coins through incompetence and protocol defects -- can this be verified externally?
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:35 |
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pseudorandom name posted:so the theory is that the magic the gathering online exchange lost all their coins through incompetence and protocol defects -- can this be verified externally? nope, unregulated!
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:37 |
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a collision attack will be found long, long before people start significantly finding collisions by accident like someone else said, there's a reason it's called SHA-2
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:51 |
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i thought there was a collision a while ago? something to do with the wallet generator not being totally random i think
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:54 |
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pseudorandom name posted:so the theory is that the magic the gathering online exchange lost all their coins through incompetence and protocol defects -- can this be verified externally?
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:54 |
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Boxturret posted:i thought there was a collision a while ago? something to do with the wallet generator not being totally random i think
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:55 |
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Dessert Rose posted:you arent fair enough, though i still question the validity of using new addresses willy nilly outside of a tumbler situation
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:56 |
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anthonypants posted:they could post their wallet address(es) so everyone could see how many butts they still have, but those addresses are stored in a cold wallet so you'll just have to trust them aren't these public knowledge by virtue of people depositing coins in their magic the gathering online exchange accounts? and what's a cold wallet?
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:59 |
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a wallet on a disconnected server so
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 20:59 |
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surebet posted:let me rephrase that what the gently caress, that's like maybe 6 hours work tops assuming the hardware is standardized
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:00 |
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probably one copy of the media and had to do it while not getting caught
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:02 |
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also it was probably a bare idiot image and he would have to go in and install "optional" things such as a web browser
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:02 |
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transfatphobic posted:also it was probably a bare idiot image and he would have to go in and install "optional" things such as a web browser that and just general loving around was the consensus
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:12 |
cold wallet is a bit of a misnomer really. all it really means is that the private key isn't kept in an online form but instead printed out and stored somewhere. you are able to look up and see how much is in any "cold wallet" by looking at the blockchain (because the blockchain is just a glorified bloated transaction ledger) but unless you know a weakness in the elliptic curve crypto that is used in the public-private key system of bitcoin that is all you can do unless you have physical access to the offline private key. just cold wallet sounds more cyberpunk than "offline backup".
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:15 |
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Shifty Pony posted:cold wallet is a bit of a misnomer really. all it really means is that the private key isn't kept in an online form. you are able to look up and see how much is in any "cold wallet" by looking at the blockchain (because the blockchain is just a glorified bloated transaction ledger) but unless you know a weakness in the elliptic curve crypto that is used in the public-private key system of bitcoin that is all you can do unless you have physical access to the offline private key.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:17 |
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Just had a WONDERFUL experience with a localbitcoins transaction. (self.Bitcoin) submitted 11 minutes ago by killhamster I now have 7 bitcoins to my name! Decided to buy them this week, so I checked out localbitcoins. Got in touch via Skype with a guy that wanted to sell 7 bitcoins, I low-balled him at $700/each, it seemed like he needed the money so he agreed. We met in the local walmart parking lot late last night and he asked me to show him the money first. I did, all $4900 of it. Actually $5000, as I had forgotten to take out a bill, but I told him it was a tip. He transferred the 7 bitcoins to my wallet and once the transaction was confirmed I suddenly pulled a pocket knife on the guy. It was only like 2" long. He couldn't run anywhere because he was like 400 pounds and his rascal was looking pretty worn out. I ordered him to give me back the $5000. He started to piss his pants which made me a little uncomfortable, but then he handed it over. As I drove off, he was staring pretty hard at my car, probably trying to read my plates, but the lenses on his glasses were probably too covered in pizza grease for him to make anything out. I imagine he went straight home and is now pretending the police give a poo poo about his situation. I sure am glad bitcoin doesn't have chargebacks, otherwise I'd be out $5000 and only have 7 bitcoins to show for it. I'm so happy with myself and my wife is proud of me because we just made $5000. I don't know what I'm going to do with it. Such a wonderful experience. [–]NH3Mechanic 1 point 4 minutes ago I just had a Wonderful experience on craiglist. A gentleman offered to buy my High end PC for $5000. I brought the computer and he the $5000. I then pulled a knife on him and took my computer back along with the cash, good thing the USD doesn't have chargeback otherwise I would be out $5000 and only have my computer
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:21 |
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Robawesome posted:Just had a WONDERFUL experience with a localbitcoins transaction. (self.Bitcoin) Robawesome posted:Same
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:21 |
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Shifty Pony posted:cold wallet is a bit of a misnomer really. all it really means is that the private key isn't kept in an online form but instead printed out and stored somewhere. i too, love the fact that at any time someone can see how much "money" i have
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:22 |
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anthonypants posted:i want to believe someone's implementation of the hash generation leaves it open to more frequent collisions though I had a coworker who was playing around with Doge, and claims that he generated an address that was already in use. It had about $4k in doge in it. We assumed (well assuming he wasnt making it up) that this was an issue with the RNG, but they're using Open SSL libraries for that.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:24 |
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Endless Mike posted:i wish i could live for 6 months on $4900.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:24 |
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Robawesome posted:Just had a WONDERFUL experience with a localbitcoins transaction. (self.Bitcoin)
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:25 |
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ryde posted:I had a coworker who was playing around with Doge, and claims that he generated an address that was already in use. It had about $4k in doge in it. We assumed (well assuming he wasnt making it up) that this was an issue with the RNG, but they're using Open SSL libraries for that. did he clear it out? that's what a true believer would have done.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:26 |
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:did he clear it out? that's what a true believer would have done. Yes.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:26 |
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ryde posted:Yes. ayn rand sheds a tear
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:27 |
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Robawesome posted:Just had a WONDERFUL experience with a localbitcoins transaction. (self.Bitcoin) [–]im-a-fat-loser [-1] -1 points 2 minutes ago Wow. Not funny.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:27 |
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jony ive aces posted:i assumed it was $4900 on top of a minimum wage job it was [–]im-a-fat-loser[S] 3 points 3 hours ago > Unrelated, where exactly do you live that $5k is enough for rent and food four 2 people for 6 months? I still have a regular job but it doesn't pay well so the extra $5k was to make things easier on us. permalink save parent
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:28 |
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How to flip a coin, as described by a Bitcoinerquote:Otherwise, it depends on your motive for flipping the coin. When I flip a coin, it's generally because I want to find out how I feel; if I'm disappointed by the result, I know to do the opposite. If you want to generate a random bit, using Bitcoin is much better than using a physical coin.
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killhamster posted:[–]im-a-fat-loser [-1] -1 points 2 minutes ago lmao
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:29 |
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kiwid posted:[–]im-a-fat-loser[S] 3 points 3 hours ago
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:31 |
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madeupfred posted:How to flip a coin, as described by a Bitcoiner this guy must have been a hit at a superbowl party when the coin toss happened.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:33 |
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what kind of moron says 'can only be inspected by entities nearby in spacetime' without questioning themselves?
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:35 |
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Robawesome posted:o-m-g im the moron that conducts cash transactions in a walmart parking lot late at night
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:40 |
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See, that's something that really gets me, the whole 'really low chance of collision' thing. while the statistical likely hood of ever finding an address already in use is negligible to the point of rendering deliberate attempts pointless, it still has a none zero chance of happening. which is fine for a system that had a central administration that could be appealed to in the unlikely event, but no such thing exist in the Butts protocols, so if you end up unlucky enough to get cleaned out by a random chance, you have no one to appeal to and no way of proving who did it. That wouldn't give me faith in a system, besides the possibility of RNG implementation being flawed. e: and things like vanity addresses or that brain wallet poo poo.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:41 |
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quote:[–]NH3Mechanic 1 point 4 minutes ago They are very comparable in terms of secure-ness, though.
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:41 |
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Samurai Quack posted:See, that's something that really gets me, the whole 'really low chance of collision' thing. while the statistical likely hood of ever finding an address already in use is negligible to the point of rendering deliberate attempts pointless, it still has a none zero chance of happening. which is fine for a system that had a central administration that could be appealed to in the unlikely event, but no such thing exist in the Butts protocols, so if you end up unlucky enough to get cleaned out by a random chance, you have no one to appeal to and no way of proving who did it. That wouldn't give me faith in a system, besides the possibility of RNG implementation being flawed. im just going to say heat death of the universe alot
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:42 |
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threefive posted:what kind of moron says 'can only be inspected by entities nearby in spacetime' without questioning themselves? fishmech?
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:44 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:im the moron that conducts cash transactions in a walmart parking lot late at night
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# ? Feb 12, 2014 21:45 |
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i don't ever step outside my house because there's a non-zero number of meteorites that impact the earth's surface per year.
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