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Honestly, I didn't do normal multiplayer for Starcraft I at all, I just did Use Map Settings stuff because that was way more fun. Don't have Starcraft II though.
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I wish they'd do a gimmick MP event or something where they included all the campaign units (or almost all of them) just to see what kind of goofy poo poo a really good Starcraft player could create. I remember reaver dropping being a thing in SC1, but I want to see what insanity a Herc drop could produce, for example.
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May 15, 2014 16:55
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RareAcumen posted:That makes me think. People only wear helmets in video games when they're not important. I'm sorry Samus, Master Chief, and Isaac Clarke. You aren't important.
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May 15, 2014 17:58
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CrazySalamander posted:I'm sorry Samus, Master Chief, and Isaac Clarke. You aren't important. Okay, guess I hosed up. I mean NPCs or partner characters that fight with you. Y'know, people who you don't play as and don't get a face?
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May 15, 2014 18:20
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RareAcumen posted:Okay, guess I hosed up. I mean NPCs or partner characters that fight with you. Y'know, people who you don't play as and don't get a face? Tali Zora vas Normandy.. I'm sure if it wasn't 3:20 AM I could come up with a few more.
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May 15, 2014 18:23
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Well, at a certain point characters for with a helmet/mask that kind of de facto becomes their face as far as the viewer is concerned.
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May 15, 2014 18:27
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Veloxyll posted:Tali Zora vas Normandy.. I'm sure if it wasn't 3:20 AM I could come up with a few more. She hardly counts. He clearly meant that helmeted characters are unimportant compared to the non-helmeted characters. But all Quarians have to wear their suits, so there is no distinction possible. And of course, Tali is the only one who eventually ditches the helmet for a short moment.
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May 15, 2014 18:32
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I think he's mostly comparing this to the times in RPGs where unimportant npcs don't get facial portraits to go with their dialogue boxes.
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May 15, 2014 18:36
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Speedball posted:I think he's mostly comparing this to the times in RPGs where unimportant npcs don't get facial portraits to go with their dialogue boxes. I think the origin of it were the sci-fi movies in the 70s where unimportant henchmen were all faceless goons with big helmets, while the important protagonist/villain and their important sidekick/lieutenant wore nothing and showed us their faces.
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May 15, 2014 18:52
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Disco Infiva posted:I think the origin of it were the sci-fi movies in the 70s where unimportant henchmen were all faceless goons with big helmets, while the important protagonist/villain and their important sidekick/lieutenant wore nothing and showed us their faces. Also, conservation of detail. Easy to just use generic art and portraits for irrelevant characters and units, saving actual face and model work for characters that matter.
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May 15, 2014 18:54
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Krysmphoenix posted:Honestly, I didn't do normal multiplayer for Starcraft I at all, I just did Use Map Settings stuff because that was way more fun. Don't have Starcraft II though. You can play in the SC2 Arcade (the analog for UMS in SC2) completely for free with the Starter edition.
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 Update Source Video (No Commentary) Voting: Upgrade 185,000 Credits available Advanced Medic Facilities - Medics no longer require the Tech Lab add-on. 60,000 Credits Kinetic Foam - Marauders gain +25 life. 90,000 Credits Twin-Linked Flamethrowers - Doubles width of Hellion's flame attack. 40,000 Credits Thermite Filaments - Hellions do +10 damage to light units. 60,000 Credits Titanium Housing - Missile Turrets gain +75 life. 50,000 Credits Maelstrom Rounds - Siege Tanks do +40 damage to primary target. - Splash damage remains the same. 105,000 Credits Shaped Blast - Shock Cannon does 75% less damage to friendly units. 140,000 Credits Advanced Construction - Multiple SCVs can build a structure. - Each additional SCV reduces build time. - Building cost remains the same. 60,000 Credits Dual-Fusion Welders - SCVs repairs twice as fast. 80,000 Credits Tri-Lithium Power Cell - Diamondbacks gain +1 range. 75,000 Credits Shaped Hull - Diamondbacks gain +50 health. 90,000 Credits Research Predator - Anti-infantry specialist. - Periodically emits a powerful area shock attack. - Built at the Factory. Hercules - Massive transport ship. - Deploys loaded troops almost instantly. - Loaded troops survive if the Hercules is destroyed. - Built at the Starport. Mission Cutthroat 3 Protoss Research 120,000 Credits New unit: Vulture The Moebius Factor 3 Zerg Research 120,000 Credits New Unit: Medivac Breakout -Help Tosh New Unit: Spectre -Help Nova New Unit: Ghost 175,000 Credits Safe Haven -Protect The Colony 3 Zerg Research -Purify the Colony 3 Protoss Research 125,000 Credits New unit: Viking Voting will end Saturday May 17th at 11:00 pm EST
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"Diamond Backs are underwhelming" That sums up the unit. Oh man! I forgot about the Adjutant. WHY DOES SHE HAVE BOOBS. WHAT MECHANICAL FUNCTION DO THEY SERVE. It amused me when your co-comentator talked about you getting your hands on her. It was I love Predators thematically. Because murderkitties :3 Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 04:04 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 03:46
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Breakout and Help Tosh because then you get Spectres. Spectres get goddamn incredible research upgrades, to the point where a single Spectre can be the only unit that ever leaves your base on some of the maps in the campaign on easier difficulties.
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May 16, 2014 03:58
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Breakout, Help Tosh, save for awesome Spectre upgrades.
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May 16, 2014 04:08
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Maelstrom Rounds, Breakout, Help Tosh, Hercules
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apostateCourier posted:Breakout, Help Tosh, save for awesome Spectre upgrades. I'm reading that Spectres are pretty great so I'm going with that.  It'd really help if I knew something about these two besides this game so I'd be sure that one of them isn't gonna just say thanks for the help and disappear.Hercules & The Moebius Factor Veloxyll posted:Oh man! I forgot about the Adjutant. It's like Duke Nukem Forever levels of dumb!
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May 16, 2014 04:20
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Cythereal posted:Maelstrom Rounds, Breakout, Help Tosh, Hercules This The herc is amazing if only because it completely obsoletes the medivac in the campaign. Not that it ever gets used much, but still.
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May 16, 2014 04:22
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RareAcumen posted:I'm reading that Spectres are pretty great so I'm going with that. If we help Tosh he does indeed stick around and has more poo poo to say about things. Whereas, as he notes, Nova isn't on our side either way.
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New Gettysburg was the primary defensive platform/last line of defense above Tarsonis back when it was the capitol of the Confederacy. It was used for all of the Tarsonis missions back in SC1. And I think the point about the Zerg eating Tarsonis was that it was Arcturus fault rather than just another Zerg attack. Also Cutthroat.
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May 16, 2014 04:38
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Help Tosh, dude's a true bro.
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May 16, 2014 04:58
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Tosh & Break Out, he's loyal. Nova's still Mengsk's Ghost.
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Voting for Hercules and Cutthroat, mostly for the comedy of the mission's setup. It's worth noting just how much of Starcraft: Ghost got swept away during that standoff with Nova and Tosh. The two used to be romantically involved as well as partners from the same Ghost unit, but then had a fallout over the top-secret project they were connected to, leading to Nova becoming loyal to Hauler and later Mengsk while Tosh becomes a Spectre and goes rogue. This makes their argument even more intriguing. Unless you looked it up, you'd have no idea about the previous spoilers because of how much Blizzard wants to make you forget Starcraft: Ghost even was a thing.
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Veloxyll posted:Oh man! I forgot about the Adjutant. No but you see Blizzard's not actually pointlessly sexualizing anything even vaguely female because *loud, sustained farting noise* I don't know anything about this game but Tosh looks kind of like a lion and lions are cool so help Tosh
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May 16, 2014 05:17
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Predator, Breakout, Help Tosh, Save for Specter Upgrades Will you be showing the alternate path? The Post Nova cutscene is pretty amazing.
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May 16, 2014 05:19
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Kurieg posted:Predator, Breakout, Help Tosh, Save for Specter Upgrades I was actually about to say the same about the post Tosh one, they're both pretty cool. And I think he did say he'd show off the alternate maps, I really like both New Folsoms tbqh.
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Edminster posted:*loud, sustained farting noise* You are already a better co-commentator than I. I think we're probably going to do all of the missions (including where there are decision points), but those alternative choices will be bonus videos. There is a fantastic cutscene if you help Nova. Honestly, though, I have no idea how good Spectres are, as I have only beaten this game once, and I was pretty bad when I did that.
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Synastren posted:You are already a better co-commentator than I. So the thing with Spectres is that instead of Snipe they get an aoe damage and stun spell, and their research upgrades give them no energy cost cloak like a Dark Templar and a giant fuckoff 200 point single target spell which again on lower difficulties lets you just sort of build enough base defenses to fend off any stray attacks then gently caress around solid snaking certain maps with a Spectre in a way that you never could with a Ghost.
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May 16, 2014 05:32
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While both Tosh's and Nova's respective missions are pretty fun, my vote goes for Breakout, Help Tosh, and to Save the cash for later. As for research, have to go for Hercules as there are a few missions it can definitely be useful in.
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May 16, 2014 05:43
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For Upgrades, get Maelstrom Rounds and Advanced Construction For Research get the Predator For the Mission, do Breakout, but Help Nova (If Safe Haven wins, I vote Purify the Colony)
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May 16, 2014 05:53
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Y'all ever notice how they tried to make the unit icons on the command card look as close as they could to the icons from StarCraft 1?
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Synastren posted:You are already a better co-commentator than I. Yeah, specters are much better than ghosts, but the Nova mission pretty fun and the cut scene after it is amazing.
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In Starcraft/Broodward the Adjutant is just some cyborg lady as far as anyone can tell, not a robot. Hercules, Breakout, Help Tosh, Save for Specter Upgrades This. Breakout (Tosh Version) was easily the funnest map in the game. GKirby posted:(If Safe Haven wins, I vote Purify the Colony) Also this.
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Humm, Breakout(Tosh), Hercules, Dual Fusion Welders Because, Tosh, Dropping armies on idiots, and fewer repair scvs.
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Zebrin posted:Dual Fusion Welders I would suggest against this for the same reason as advanced medic facilities. If we're going mech heavy there'll be something much better later on.
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Maelstrom rounds. And do not ever get shaped blast. Reducing the killiness of siege tanks is heresy.
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Hercules and Help Nova. Tosh seems too shady and I don't like the idea of freeing all his psycho-killer buddies just because he says "no it's cool I swear they're on our side okay?" Also seeing Nova just makes me sad that Starcraft Ghost never became a thing and never will become a thing. The Starcraft universe is just such a fun setting that I'd love to play first person in.
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Upgrade - Maelstrom Rounds Research - Hercules Mission - Breakout - Help Nova I have no idea who is better, but people are saying that Nova missions are more fun and have better cutscenes so I choose her. Does unit upgrades also affect mercenaries? Will maelstrom rounds give us better siege brakers?
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Disco Infiva posted:Does unit upgrades also affect mercenaries? Will maelstrom rounds give us better siege brakers? Yes, all unit upgrades carry over to the mercenaries. For example, our War Pigs, the marine mercenary has an additional 10 hp and stim from the upgrades we bought. That means upgraded siege breakers will be even more absurdly powerful than normal.
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I had a nice post about the comments on the adjunct design... but gently caress it. Not the time and place. I'll just sum it up like so - Uncanny valley. We'd all feel there was something really out of place if we heard a feminine voice, saw a feminine face, and saw a masculine/neutral body. Right. That done. How far into the campaign are we? I have no way of telling, but with all the different plot strings everywhere it seems like the campaign could actually be really, really long. And do the multiple choice missions like Tosh/Nova and Haven really have a significant impact on things beside particular mission rewards?
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