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Haters Objector posted:Note that if you actually try to apply for asylum at an Australian embassy in Sri Lanka, they tell you to gently caress off Thanks for that, was trying to put something together. This is intersting though. Switzerland re-fouled two asylum seekers to Sri-Lanka in 2011 and they've been in jail there ever since. The Swiss had an 'in-principle' agreement to see them in jail in 2013, but as of 2014 contact is still just through families. Switzerland stopped sending anyone back last year, and now have tightened up criteria and give anyone rejected legal counselling.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Maybe everyone should have handed back the Jewish refugees to Nazi Germany, because they were probably fleeing illegally too. That was done too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis And I believe at the Evian Conference (which was trying to deal with the Jewish Refugees pre war) One of the Australian attendants to this conference said: "It will no doubt be appreciated also that as we have no real racial problem, we are not desirous of importing one by encouraging any scheme of large-scale foreign migration"
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Nibbles141 posted:The government and police would probably leave them alone, knowing they were on Australia's radar, for the decade it would take. So basically the official, correct, legal process takes too long right? But i have all this money so i can just pay a people smuggler, next boat leaves tomorrow
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Negligent posted:So basically the official, correct, legal process takes too long right? These people sell pretty much everything they own to get on to one of these boats. They don't do it because, "Oh dear, that's a long wait in the queue." they it do it because they're literally scared for their lives. That isn't something you can understand, you live in a country that doesn't have that issue thus you can't even comprehend the motivations of these people.
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Jul 7, 2014 06:56
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Being desparate enough to break the law doesn't give their asylum claim more merit than people who do the right thing.
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Negligent posted:Being desparate enough to break the law doesn't give their asylum claim more merit than people who do the right thing. Yeah, you're right, they should just patiently wait while their government tortures and murders them. How dare they want to do anything they possibly can to escape that?
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Negligent posted:Being desparate enough to break the law doesn't give their asylum claim more merit than people who do the right thing. Agreed, they should accept their lot and submit to torture and death. The Law is the Law. Amethyst fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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Negligent posted:Being desparate enough to break the law doesn't give their asylum claim more merit than people who do the right thing. And it doesn't give it less. Yet here we are, giving 4-questions teleconference interviews to figure out complicated issues.
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Negligent posted:Being desparate enough to break the law doesn't give their asylum claim more merit than people who do the right thing. What law did they break?
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Frogmanv2 posted:What law did they break? They crossed are borders.* *Please ignore that we removed our borders from existence.
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Jul 7, 2014 07:04
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the sri lankan law linked from the guardian article
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Jul 7, 2014 07:07
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Also, Peter Greste violated Egyptian law, so, you know
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Negligent posted:the sri lankan law linked from the guardian article Cool, so you would be happy being deported to Malaysia and tried for possessing and downloading porn? You broke their law. You should go to jail for it.
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Negligent posted:So basically the official, correct, legal process takes too long right? The official, correct, legal process actually requires you to be outside of the country you're fleeing before been able to put in an asylum request. If you can make it to a signee and request asylum that is the official, correct and legal process. So yes, we are the ones breaking international law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees#Innocence_of_refugees_unlawfully_entering_the_country_of_refuge
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Jul 7, 2014 07:18
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Negligent posted:the sri lankan law linked from the guardian article I'm not saying you're deliberately trolling, but if you were setting out to draw a note-perfect caricature of an unthinking authoritarian moron, you are the Platonic ideal.
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Amethyst posted:The Law is the Law.  e: The Border Force logo should have used a Judge helmet instead of a cap. Welsper fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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Now look, I'm not saying that the next asylum seeker in Australia who plans to self-immolate as a desperate response to being denied a visa should attempt to burn Scott Morrison alive instead, but.
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Negligent is Lawful Evil. Or was it Legal Evil?
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Jul 7, 2014 07:47
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 First Dog on the Moon, I was waiting for an 'It is a refugee analogy'.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Negligent is Lawful Evil. I know what I'm using the second post for.
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SynthOrange posted:
It's surreal seeing it drawn in a slightly different style. I thought the cat would be Jasper.
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Captain Pissweak posted:I know what I'm using the second post for. Chaotic good in case you didn't know.
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Never not chaotic good.
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BCR posted:My 2 cents are its a little too busy. I don't have paint, (seriously this computer!) WHO - LOGOS OF 'PROTECTED SPECIES' (i.e. ABC, Medicare, Climate Change) WHAT - LOGOS OF 'EVIL CORPORATIONS' (i.e. Seven, Private Health Insurers, Climate Change Deniers) WHY - MONEY FOR THEM (charge for iView, charge for GP visits, remove RET)
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Negligent posted:the sri lankan law linked from the guardian article I assume this is a lovely troll, but it's worth noting that in order to be extradited to another country, the offence must exist in both jurisdictions - and the accused has a right to a court appearance.
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Those On My Left posted:Also, Peter Greste violated Egyptian law, so, you know What part of facing trial under sri lanka law for offences committed in sri lanka do you disagree with?
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I've read the guardian article a few times. It looks like the only crime is leaving Sri Lanka. Negligent you're being about as dense as a black hole at this point, unless you honestly can't put two and two together to realize that staying in the country where they very well could be killed is quite against their wellbeing and by breaking the law they could have effectively saved their lives, save for the fact we've refouled them. Would you honestly say staying in that situation for a prolonged amount of time is preferable? Or does Sri Lankan law now bypass international laws in your eyes?
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Let's all respect the famously functional and even-handed justice system of Sri Lanka
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There's no way this clown isn't influx
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Nautilus42 posted:I've read the guardian article a few times. It looks like the only crime is leaving Sri Lanka. So why can't they depart for another country from a proper port in compliance with sri lanka law and then claim asylum once they are there?
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EXCUSE ME GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL OFFICIALS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTING GENOCIDE AGAINST TAMILS can I get a passport and a ticket out of here?
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The government wants to kill me but hey I guess rules are rules, so no escaping for me.
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I just had news 24 on in the background and Clive Palmer was doing an interview where he did an impression of Murdoch and then accused him of tapping his phones did I imagine this?
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Pred1ct posted:I just had news 24 on in the background and Clive Palmer was doing an interview where he did an impression of Murdoch and then accused him of tapping his phones did I imagine this? I've seen Palmer compare Murdoch to Joseph Goebbels in interviews before, so no you probably didn't.
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Background Briefing did a fantastic in depth story on the axing of the charities watchdog. Radio National is so good in general, nowhere else goes in depth they way they do http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-07-06/5562744
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This government has demonstrated how broken Australia's democracy is. There should never be a time where a government that would lose in a landslide to "someone else" should be able to pass laws...
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Trigger warning, Australian: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...40c6876ff3b6e7d Arse posted:THE High Court has granted an interim injunction to prevent 153 asylum-seekers being returned to the Sri Lankan military by the Australian Navy.
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Stop replying to Influx, you idiots. On a related note, the good news about Sri Lanka imprisoning all those asylum seekers is that they'll only be tortured and in jail for two years, whereas if they'd stayed here it'd be more like 5
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SadisTech posted:Trigger warning, Australian: Isn't it too late for this? I was under the impression that they washed their hands of them immediately and just got straight to handing them back over.
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