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Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW

Bad Caller posted:

Can we turn football into a democracy where you can vote for the commissioner and people who run the board of executives for your respective team? You just have to buy in a vote, bam everyone wins, and then profits go as dividends to the fans by stock percentage, keeping a good chunk of profits to keep growing the franchise worth. Keep stock you can buy at a reasonable cap so the average fan can buy in, and then we get literally November election tv only for the NFL. Teams never leave, and new teams can get added if enough people can pay in to create a team.

Also we can fire people on votes when Ray Rice stuff happens or we don't like what the commissioner is doing to punish it. This pipe dream is so high it makes Josh Gordon look like a Jehovah's Witness.

I bet we can, let's do the same with Wal-Mart, home of falling prices.

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tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

Mel Mudkiper posted:

So you don't have an actual opinion and just want to be a disagreeable prick ok cool

I don't think teams should necessarily be owned by cities, or governments or whatever, and that saying they should is incorrect.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
We already have lotteries as ways of getting stupid people to give money to the state for 'infrastructure'

Whirlwind Jones
Apr 13, 2013

by Lowtax

tbp posted:

I don't think teams should necessarily be owned by cities, or governments or whatever, and that saying they should is incorrect.

Taxpayer dollars are largely used to finance these stadiums. It'd be nice if the money generated them went back into the community instead of into some rich old white guy's pocket.

It will never happen so it's dumb to talk about but it's still a preferable scenario.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Its preferable to stop dumping public money into sports

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

Whirlwind Jones posted:

Taxpayer dollars are largely used to finance these stadiums. It'd be nice if the money generated them went back into the community instead of into some rich old white guy's pocket.

It will never happen so it's dumb to talk about but it's still a preferable scenario.

If fans weren't okay with this I don't think they'd be attending games in such high numbers though

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

tbp posted:

If fans weren't okay with this I don't think they'd be attending games in such high numbers though

Holy poo poo look at this post

Whirlwind Jones
Apr 13, 2013

by Lowtax

tbp posted:

If fans weren't okay with this I don't think they'd be attending games in such high numbers though
hmm your right

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
Nice derail, fellas

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

Holy poo poo look at this post

Calm down

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Derail over.

Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW
No, seriously. Parrot man is right (cool avatar BTW). If the fans gave a poo poo about tax dollars they would stop going to games and buying NFL poo poo. Turns out no one gives a poo poo about that stuff.

Maybe that's good, who knows. To me personally its all worth it for the anarchy that comes after a tipped ball. I'll pay extra for hotel rooms in cities I don't really want to go to in order to subsidize that.

Edit: just saw that this is over right after I posted. I'm done.

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?
Ray Rice in the hall of fame hahahahah can we revisit that little fiction

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


football fuckerman posted:

Ray Rice in the hall of fame hahahahah can we revisit that little fiction

He wasn't even going to be in the team's HOF before this, did somebody actually say Ray Rice would be in the Hall

wow

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Are we talking Douche Hall of Fame or football one? Because he is a lock for one of them.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

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swickles posted:

Are we talking Douche Hall of Fame or football one? Because he is a lock for one of them.

Oh, he's going to your mom's house? Haha sorry.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Chris James 2 posted:

He wasn't even going to be in the team's HOF before this, did somebody actually say Ray Rice would be in the Hall

wow

quote:

Can someone explain to me why this video should change ANYTHING. Is there ANYTHING in this video that we don't already know, that the team didn't already know, or that the league didn't already know.

Can those who have spread this video all over the internet verify its authenticity and swear that it has not been tampered with, and that the two people in the video are really Ray Rice and his wife. I have seen the video several times and it is such poor quality that you have to fill in the blanks. You have to be told repeatedly what it is you are SUPPOSED to see. I certainly don't think it is evidence that is admissible in court. There is no chain of evidence here.

If the league and the team already knew what happened on the elevator (Anyone who didn't know what happened on the elevator has to be pretty stupid), the verdict is pretty clear: the team and the league can't take the heat for the decisions they have already made. They need to man up and stand behind their man.

I am also suspicious of the timing of the release of this video. When the Baltimore Ravens are in a league where they are always treated like the king's jerk (this is a legitimate term) son, I was very suspicious when Ray Rice and the Ravens got off with just a two game suspension. Now I know why. The league knew about the video and expected this video to come out at a time when it would do the most damage to the Ravens. It did.

I am also disappointed in Ray Lewis' failure to stand up for his "friend" Ray Rice. I am now so sure Ray would have had much of a career in the NFL if the Ravens had dumped him the same way they dumped Ray Rice. Or, is domestic violence more of a crime today than murder? And, don't give me the Ray Lewis wasn't convicted of anything argument. Ray Rice has not been convicted of anything in a court of law either.

I am suspicious of all politically correct lynch mobs and this looks and smells and sounds like one to me. There has got to be someone else out there who is even more disappointed in the Ravens than they are in Ray Rice.

The question for me is I can still support the Ravens? They certainly have disappointed me today. They've just ruined a player's career (No Hall of Fame for Ray Rice; No Ravens Ring of Honor, either) after he had given them his heart and soul and body for six tough years. If they were going to do this to Ray, they should have done it months and months ago, not three days before their next home game and four days before Ray was scheduled to come off suspension.

Disappointed Ravens fan

I guess I'd stand by Ray Rice too just so he doesn't knock me the gently caress out in an elevator.

haljordan fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Sep 9, 2014

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Yeah someone quoted a Ravens fan who was boo hooing the fact that Ray Rice is no longer going to be a HOFer or have a chance at the team ring of honor or something.

edit: beaten

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

tbp posted:

Oh, he's going to your mom's house? Haha sorry.

Nice one guy who has only ever posted in TFF in this thread.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Whirlwind Jones posted:

hmm your right

I like your bird av, birds are cool.


Sadly the most surprising thing about all this to me is that someone thought Ray Rice was going to the HoF, although I'm well acquainted with average Ravens fans so I shouldn't be.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


haljordan posted:

I guess I'd stand by Ray Rice too just so he doesn't knock me the gently caress out in an elevator.

Oh yeah. I didn't get that far when I first saw it, I just immediately saw stupid thing after stupid thing, then gave up at "politically correct lynch mobs"

ironlung
Dec 31, 2001

was that post from here or another forum

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

/r/TheFootballFunhouse

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

Chris James 2 posted:

He wasn't even going to be in the team's HOF before this, did somebody actually say Ray Rice would be in the Hall

wow

One of the ravens guys from some other forum quoted earlier

Can't wait for the hall class of rice, heath miller, dqwell jackson and Michael roos

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

I'd be shocked if TMZ really has something that proves the NFL covered this up. But here's hoping!

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

FAT SLAMPIG posted:

Bring in Condi Rice. Seriously. I'm 100% for it now. 110% if she's cool with touchdown dances.

The owners would have to vote her in. A bunch of old white men won't elect a black woman to run their precious league.

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






ironlung posted:

was that post from here or another forum

Yeah that's some post from the official Ravens forum.

ErectorBeast
Sep 19, 2010

"I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."
wait so is Parmesan Basil going to get away with saying some of that ridiculous poo poo he spouted near the beginning of this thread and like for real no one is going to call him out on it

can I be that guy??

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

ErectorBeast posted:

wait so is Parmesan Basil going to get away with saying some of that ridiculous poo poo he spouted near the beginning of this thread and like for real no one is going to call him out on it

can I be that guy??

No, an FYADer did a bad job calling him out and a mod called him out more thoroughly. We can move on now.

ErectorBeast
Sep 19, 2010

"I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."

Probably Magic posted:

No, an FYADer did a bad job calling him out and a mod called him out more thoroughly. We can move on now.

Oh, perhaps I missed the bit with a mod calling him out somewhere while I was at work. I saw the FYAD poster's attempts, very poor approach, 2/10.

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Burger Trench posted:

I'd be shocked if TMZ really has something that proves the NFL covered this up. But here's hoping!

Best possible case scenario is NFL staff refused to watch the video.

How could they not know a casino elevator video existed? The legendary casino camera coverage is in every casino heist movie ever, it's apparent while visiting a casino and a modicum of curiosity would have someone reviewing the case to ask "Is there video from in the elevator?"

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

ErectorBeast posted:

wait so is Parmesan Basil going to get away with saying some of that ridiculous poo poo he spouted near the beginning of this thread and like for real no one is going to call him out on it

can I be that guy??

You should call him out for all the ridiculous crap that he's said.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Oh, I thought he wanted to be a guy saying ridiculous poo poo. No, feel free to call out Parm.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

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Probably Magic posted:

Oh, I thought he wanted to be a guy saying ridiculous poo poo. No, feel free to call out Parm.

He wants to get the guy for all the stuff he said that was both hypocrital, wrong, and frankly insulting to the other posters. Hope the guy gets what is coming to him.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Christ, I think Ray Rice even spits on her after he punches her. If there's any justice in this world, he'll get run over by a bread truck tomorrow.

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


/\/\ He did.

DARPA posted:

How could they not know a casino elevator video existed? The legendary casino camera coverage is in every casino heist movie ever, it's apparent while visiting a casino and a modicum of curiosity would have someone reviewing the case to ask "Is there video from in the elevator?"

moolchaba
Jul 21, 2007

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004
So who is more hateworthy Ray Rice or John Harbaugh?

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow
I, for one, do not like Ray Rice.

Go Bengals and go Jeremy "Beejer" Hill.

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


haljordan posted:

Christ, I think Ray Rice even spits on her after he punches her. If there's any justice in this world, he'll get run over by a bread truck tomorrow.

He spat on her before he punched her. When he leaned in.

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