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LostCosmonaut posted:Number of Saturn V on display in former confederate states: 4 1/2. I'm still pissed off that NYC got a shuttle and Houston didn't. loving idiots even managed to damage it before putting it on display, assholes.
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Sep 25, 2014 04:10
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What the gently caress do you expect the thing was designed by a goddamn nazi.
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Sep 25, 2014 04:26
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Cyrano4747 posted:What the gently caress do you expect the thing was designed by a goddamn nazi. The Saturn V or the Shuttle?
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Sep 25, 2014 04:38
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Fearless posted:The Saturn V or the Shuttle? Saturn V. Cyrano beat me to the crack about a bunch of Paperclipped ex-Nazis being right at home south of the Mason-Dixon.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:29
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Cyrano4747 posted:What the gently caress do you expect the thing was designed by a goddamn nazi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKn1aSOyOs
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Sep 25, 2014 05:40
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Huntsville seemed pretty nice when I visited there a while back. The museum with the Saturn V is very cool.
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Sep 25, 2014 06:10
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priznat posted:Huntsville seemed pretty nice when I visited there a while back. The museum with the Saturn V is very cool. Huntsville has the highest number of PhDs per capita in the US and is a pretty nice place. Hard to believe it is in Alabama. Got to take a trip out there when I was going through the Prowler Weapons School.
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Sep 25, 2014 07:18
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vulturesrow posted:Huntsville has the highest number of PhDs per capita in the US and is a pretty nice place. Hard to believe it is in Alabama. Got to take a trip out there when I was going through the Prowler Weapons School. Yeah it's interesting how there are a lot of high tech that isn't even defense related, just due to the concentration of a highly educated and skilled workforce! I was there because I worked for cisco at the time and was training up some guys in the office there. When we went out for lunch the TGIFriday's had "sweet home alabama" on the stereo and that was pretty weird slash awesome.
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Sep 25, 2014 08:09
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm still pissed off that NYC got a shuttle and Houston didn't. loving idiots even managed to damage it before putting it on display, assholes. And then that prick Schumer went on TV to talk smack about Texas.
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Sep 25, 2014 13:10
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PhotoKirk posted:And then that prick Schumer went on TV to talk smack about Texas. Well I hope Schumer will remember a Southern man don't need him around, anyhow
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Sep 25, 2014 13:16
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm still pissed off that NYC got a shuttle and Houston didn't. loving idiots even managed to damage it before putting it on display, assholes. What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state.
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Sep 25, 2014 13:48
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state.  Too soon man. Too soon.
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Sep 25, 2014 14:09
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. 
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Sep 25, 2014 14:55
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PhotoKirk posted:And then that prick Schumer went on TV to talk smack about Texas. gently caress Texas. http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/bnqfya/back-in-black---new-york-vs--texas
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Sep 25, 2014 15:10
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. Haha wow.
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Sep 25, 2014 15:14
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. 
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Sep 25, 2014 15:24
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. Doesn't count. They had to share.
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Sep 25, 2014 15:42
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. Holy poo poo.
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Sep 25, 2014 16:03
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. Every once in a while, I'm reminded of why I still post here. 
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Sep 25, 2014 16:17
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Godholio posted:I'm hopeful the Air Force learned that lesson. The pilot community seems to have done so, from when I've been in planning sessions. Exactly. About every 10 pages in the F-35 thread it has to be reiterated that it was a hell of a lucky shot that couldn't have been made without a dozen different things lining up perfectly.
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Sep 25, 2014 17:51
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm still pissed off that NYC got a shuttle and Houston didn't. loving idiots even managed to damage it before putting it on display, assholes. At least we get the dedicated SpaceX launch site in couple years. World's first and only commercial spaceport. 
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Sep 25, 2014 17:57
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Breaky posted:What are you talking about, Texas got pieces of one all over the state. 
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Sep 25, 2014 18:02
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SgtMongoose posted:Having just been to Keflavik, staging P-8's out of there would not be hard. Kef is Iceland's main international airport and plays host to a standing deployment of NATO fighters. The Icelandic Coast Guard has kept all the facilities they still own in good repair and the housing is actually really nice. The money pit would be all the support facilities like enlisted dorms, post office, commissary, MWR stuff, etc. cause that was all turned over to civilian use and is now apartment buildings and businesses. So you either have to start from scratch on all that or buy out a lot of locals. Or just make it a rotating deployment like the fighters and duck all that. And considering the nearest P-8 base is NAS Jax, it'd be a nice posting for the crews that went in the summer (I know I would rather take mid-50s and dry over low 90s and humid in July)
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Sep 25, 2014 20:55
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Back Hack posted:At least we get the dedicated SpaceX launch site in couple years. World's first and only commercial spaceport. Except it's not.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojave_Air_and_Space_Port http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America
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Sep 25, 2014 22:29
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Suicide Watch posted:So basically they're going to be used like Nighthawks? Two internal hard points for air to ground ordinance. The f22 can carry 8 250lbs bombs or 2 jdams internally along with 2 aim 120 aimrams and 2 harms I think. You are think of the f35 which can only carry an effective load externally.
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Sep 26, 2014 01:17
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A F-22 doing Wild Weasel with those HARMs would be pretty amazing.
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Sep 26, 2014 01:29
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wargames posted:The f22 can carry 8 250lbs bombs or 2 jdams internally along with 2 aim 120 aimrams and 2 harms I think. You are think of the f35 which can only carry an effective load externally. No HARMs, -88s are huge...there's no way they would fit internally on a Raptor (or an F-35 for that matter). A2G loadout has 2 -120s in the center bay along with the bombs (either 8xSDB or 2xGBU-32 like you say) as well as 2 Sidewinders, one in each of the side bays. The F-35's internal bays are actually bigger/more optimized for air to ground ordnance than the Raptor's. The F-35's can carry 2xGBU-31 (2,000 lbs a piece) as opposed to the Raptor's 2xGBU-32 (1,000 lbs a piece). The F-35 should also be capable of carrying a total of 8xSDBs, just like the Raptor (4 per rack/bay). Of course that ignores some stores separation and integration issues that I don't think have been resolved quite yet.
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Sep 26, 2014 05:10
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It seems weird that the USAF is banking on basically nothing but the SDB so far as A2G but I guess if you can really plant it on target every time you don't always need ~1000 pounds of boom. also SA keeps eating this post  Psion fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Sep 26, 2014 |
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Sep 26, 2014 06:20
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iyaayas01 posted:No HARMs, -88s are huge...there's no way they would fit internally on a Raptor (or an F-35 for that matter). A2G loadout has 2 -120s in the center bay along with the bombs (either 8xSDB or 2xGBU-32 like you say) as well as 2 Sidewinders, one in each of the side bays. I am not seeing how they can fit in 8 SDBs along with the -120. Is the Harm too long to fit internally on the f22 or f35?  also this doesn't seem to stealthy  
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Sep 26, 2014 07:14
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Sometimes you want the enemy to know you're there. Sometimes the extra ordnance is worth the RCS increase. Sometimes you're going up against MiG-19s and it doesn't matter at all.
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Sep 26, 2014 07:18
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wargames posted:I am not seeing how they can fit in 8 SDBs along with the -120. Is the Harm too long to fit internally on the f22 or f35? Also, that photo is only showing one of the two center bays.
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Sep 26, 2014 10:36
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wkarma posted:Except it's not.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallops_Flight_Facility#Commercial_spaceport
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Sep 26, 2014 12:04
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Here's a story: authorities in Kazakhstan are defacing WW2 era equipment set up as war memorials. They are doing this because Russian separatists in the Ukraine earlier this year managed to start and drive away in an IS-3 tank that had been made into a similar memorial, without having its engine removed or its gun deactivated. e: and North Korea's God-King is reportedly seriously ill. quote:An anonymous source - said to be "familiar with North Korea affairs" - quoted by the South Korean news agency Yonhap, said he understood Mr Kim was "suffering from gout, along with hyperuricemia, hyperlipidemia, obesity, diabetes and high blood pressure". e2: VVVVV other war memorials Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Sep 26, 2014 |
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Sep 26, 2014 14:26
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And ammunition for either of these comes from... where, exactly?
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Sep 26, 2014 14:29
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I would argue you need to actually put people in "space" before you can call yourself a spaceport, in which case the race to being the first spaceport is still on; however I'll concede point anyway. That aside, I can't wait to drive down and watch them launch the Dragon 2, that thing is going to be so awesome.
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Sep 26, 2014 14:36
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simplefish posted:And ammunition for either of these comes from... where, exactly? From what I remember, the IS-3 in the Ukraine was essentially used as an armored machine gun carrier, I don't think they actually managed to scrounge up any ammo for the D-25.
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Sep 26, 2014 15:40
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Helter Skelter posted:It's about a foot longer, ~50% larger in diameter, double the wingspan, and weighs over twice as much (not that weight would be a major concern). I see where the other 2 SDBs are the picture just doesn't show all four of them clearly in the background. Also the harm is 4100mm long while the 2000 lb jdam is 3900, the diameter of the harm is 254mm while the 2k jdam is 640 mm. so the F35 might be able to hold it internally but the f22 because of the length?
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Sep 26, 2014 19:11
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simplefish posted:And ammunition for either of these comes from... where, exactly? Same place as our cheap Mosins and RC K98s.
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And I would expect the F-22's radar/ELINT systems to pinpoint an enemy radar within one inch and feed that positions to the SBDs. Then the pilot flies undetected at 50k (greater glide range) to the SBDs launch envelope, farts some SBDs, closes the bomb bays and rubs one out out of boredom. Won't being undetected (vs. a normal wild weasel cockpit disco party) negate the need for standoffs homing weapons like the HARM ? Am I missing some other use for a HARM?
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