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Like I could try to explain to him that that scenario is exactly what happened and what we want to continue to happen but I don't think they'd listen to me
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maybe you could just not have freakign youtube commenters as facebook friends??
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he seems to be a south park libertarian so i sent him this and hopefully he Gets It https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0sAVtOt2wA
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Feb 27, 2015 16:40
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Necc0 posted:a writeup would be fine but keep in mind i'm dealing with people who write poo poo like this: quote:Comcast won't cut Netflix completely -- they have too many customers who would switch to another carrier if they did. thats the problem right there
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I don't think your friend can be reasoned with. Is he even your friend, or is he a facebook friend?
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Shaggar posted:the Netflix customers want that traffic. not all Comcast customers are Netflix customers and it would be wrong of Comcast to charge all Comcast customers for the usage of just the Netflix customers. the final result of all of this is that the Netflix customers who wanted the upgrades got the upgrades and they(through Netflix) paid for them. This is correct and fair. yes let's make the Internet like cable where you have to buy certain packages to get "premium" channels that sounds lovely hey let's do it with cell phones too you can only call 911 if you have the emergency package
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Feb 27, 2015 17:13
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How does this affect bandwidth caps?
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sweet I get to pay $10 for Netflix and $30 for the package that gives me access to it on top of my $60 I pay for Internet????
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SYSV Fanfic posted:I don't think your friend can be reasoned with. Is he even your friend, or is he a facebook friend? facebook friend of a friend. the worst kind of friend this is mostly for the observers though, not him
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Feb 27, 2015 17:36
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SYSV Fanfic posted:How does this affect bandwidth caps? it just means they're not allowed to say 'UNLIMITED DATA' when they don't actually mean that at all besides that not really
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My Linux Rig posted:sweet I get to pay $10 for Netflix and $30 for the package that gives me access to it on top of my $60 I pay for Internet???? more like you pay $10 for Netflix and $2 of that is for Netflix to pay ISPs
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Feb 27, 2015 17:43
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Necc0 posted:it just means they're not allowed to say 'UNLIMITED DATA' when they don't actually mean that at all cable companies aren't advertising unlimited data anymore as far as i can tell
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Feb 27, 2015 17:46
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hobbesmaster posted:cable companies aren't advertising unlimited data anymore as far as i can tell yeah it's also for stuff like '250 GB per month* *throttled into the floor after the first 100 that companies like to do
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Feb 27, 2015 17:48
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My Linux Rig posted:sweet I get to pay $10 for Netflix and $30 for the package that gives me access to it on top of my $60 I pay for Internet???? hosed up that ghosts have to pay for Internet
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Feb 27, 2015 18:22
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Necc0 posted:it just means they're not allowed to say 'UNLIMITED DATA' when they don't actually mean that at all I am sure it will have to play out in court but what I wonder is if this will prevent cable companies from exempting their own video on demand streaming systems from the caps if they use iptv to do it. right now if you have U-verse the bandwidth used for the tv video streams don't count against your 250gb cap despite coming over the same DSL data link. and just about every provider has a live TV or video on demand ipad app now.
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So if data caps aren't impacted, how is this going to make the internet fall apart like shaggar says it will? Won't the people that binge at 1080p and torrent blu ray all day and night pay more for their access to the network?
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Shifty Pony posted:I am sure it will have to play out in court but what I wonder is if this will prevent cable companies from exempting their own video on demand streaming systems from the caps if they use iptv to do it. right now if you have U-verse the bandwidth used for the tv video streams don't count against your 250gb cap despite coming over the same DSL data link. and just about every provider has a live TV or video on demand ipad app now. i'm guessing this would fall under the 'business justification / technical justification' distinction the fcc set up. if it became an issue it'd go to court i guess
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RE: AT&T, IPTV and U-Verse data caps: I'd doubt it would impact it. There is nothing inter about at&t iptv. It starts and ends completely on at&ts network.
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Feb 27, 2015 19:21
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net brutality more like, it's just sharia law for the internet
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Just talked to my dad (cable splicer). He said typically there is one CO per city that uverse comes into from dedicated fiber. It branches out to the other COs, and then to the VRADS. It is more or less completely private and never touches the internet. It is completely separate up until the last mile. It doesn't come out of the COs because AT&T does not want to resell it as they are required to do with pots/dsl.
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maniacdevnull posted:net brutality more like, it's just sharia law for the internet obamas set up death.cpl for the innernet
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computer parts posted:more like you pay $10 for Netflix and $2 of that is for Netflix to pay ISPs yeah sure that's how that'd work out ISPs wouldn't use tiering as an excuse to gouge their clients more
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Beeftweeter posted:obamas set up death.cpl for the innernet
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My Linux Rig posted:yeah sure that's how that'd work out ISPs wouldn't use tiering as an excuse to gouge their clients more their clients are the websites
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Feb 27, 2015 20:11
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reminder:
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i'm friendster
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Necc0 posted:does anyone have a good video that describes this in baby language because my facebook has been exploding and normally i'd tell people to just go read up on stuff themselves but a whole mountain of disinformation and paranoid conspiracy theories have popped up out of nowhere overnight so deliberately letting uninformed peeps loose in that is kind of irresponsible http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality
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Hed posted:reminder: I'm the lazy dumbass who put in QQ but still has MySpace
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Cardboard Box A posted:How about a webcomic basically if you agree with net neutrality you agree with the oatmeal guy choose wisely
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Feb 27, 2015 23:11
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lol at this thread and shagger's terrible opinions forever
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shaggars postes brought 2 u by wandows metro modern ui with bing
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Stymie posted:basically if you agree with net neutrality you agree with the oatmeal guy choose between oatmeal and stymie? gently caress it I'm going back to bed
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Cardboard Box A posted:How about a webcomic uncurable mlady posted:if shaggar, fishmech, stymie, verizon, and att are against something then you know it must be the best loving thing since sliced bread so I am v pleased with today's news Stymie posted:basically if you agree with net neutrality you agree with the oatmeal guy thanks satan
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Feb 28, 2015 00:56
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Shaggar posted:you will pay through increased ISP subscription costs. however, its still highly likely that this just causes ISPs to abandon new infrastructure improvements at their edges. either way its a terrible day for the internet. My township owns and operates it's own non-profit fiberoptic ISP. 😅 And now this law made it so other towns and county's can follow suit, despite state laws that barred it in favor of large Telecom oligarchy.
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Stymie posted:basically if you agree with net neutrality you agree with the oatmeal guy
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Posting from the anarcho-commune across from the cybrary.
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this is so terrible and wrong.
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Hed posted:reminder: this is also really stupid and anyone who posts it seriously has no idea how the internet works. lol tiered networks are more likely under net neut as ISPs abandon the internet and switch back to private internal network services like how AOL used to work
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Shaggar posted:this is also really stupid and anyone who posts it seriously has no idea how the internet works. lol tiered networks are more likely under net neut as ISPs abandon the internet and switch back to private internal network services like how AOL used to work wtf shaggar. Please explain how this is remotely possible in markets with competition?
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A literal return to compuserv. lol.
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