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DAAS Kapitalist posted:So we're back to captain's calls. Yeah, basically. The extra funny thing is that he told a lot of people (eg Brandis, people in AG, other senior staff) before Morrison.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah, basically. He probably needed legal advice from them though.
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am i going to have to return to reading this thread for the election? (((((((((((((((no)))))))))))))))
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Is there any chance that the ALP could figure "gently caress it, we've already copped our Royal Commission so how much worse can it get, let's back Dio Wangs call for a Federal ICAC with the Greens and send amended legislation back to the lower house to wedge the LNP on it's own legislation"? Because after a couple of beers that sounds kind of awesome.
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clusterfuck posted:Is there any chance that the ALP could figure "gently caress it, we've already copped our Royal Commission so how much worse can it get, let's back Dio Wangs call for a Federal ICAC with the Greens and send amended legislation back to the lower house to wedge the LNP on it's own legislation"? Because after a couple of beers that sounds kind of awesome. there's no chance of the alp doing anything apart from disappearing upside their own assholes
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Recoome posted:Holy poo poo! For what it's worth, they both took it really well.
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Abbott was just on Sky talking about how he's a huge fan of the Turnbull government because they're relying on the Abbott government's policies and track record. I agree, Abbott should absolutely be invited onto more channels to explain this imo
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Ettin posted:Abbott was just on Sky talking about how he's a huge fan of the Turnbull government because they're relying on the Abbott government's policies and track record. I can't loving wait for Peta Credlin and Andrew Bolt both getting their own shows. It'll be the 24/7 poo poo on Malcolm channel.
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. 
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Ettin posted:Abbott was just on Sky talking about how he's a huge fan of the Turnbull government because they're relying on the Abbott government's policies and track record. He's hosed if the LNP win the next election. otoh, Labour'll send him a thank you card if they win. Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. Nice
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. noice
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. Hell yeah, congrats dude.
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. noice!
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Cleretic posted:And I'm home from the one in Melbourne. I'm not gonna write anything up, but suffice to say it was big, pretty amazing, and I'm going to come out to my best friends tonight even if it may be a bad idea because I think if I don't ride the energy off that I'll never tell them. Oh poo poo! I guess it may well have already happened by now but good luck/godspeed. edit: oh derp. Glad to hear 
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may god mave mercy on ur souls, family
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. That's great to hear!
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Awesome work Cleretic!! I'm pretty sure it was you who was asking me for information about the snap rally/demonstration the other day. If I helped with your process of telling people who you are, I feel so loving happy and delighted for you, you have strength and do not forget that. It was a great show of force and compassion, and the last 30 hours of protesting in Melbourne have been truly invigorating. Over 20,000 people have protested for two very serious causes in Melbourne over the last two evenings, and it is always a truly great thing to be involved with.
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. That's awesome. Really glad it went well.
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clusterfuck posted:Is there any chance that the ALP could figure "gently caress it, we've already copped our Royal Commission so how much worse can it get, let's back Dio Wangs call for a Federal ICAC with the Greens and send amended legislation back to the lower house to wedge the LNP on it's own legislation"? Because after a couple of beers that sounds kind of awesome. It's a pretty bold move, so of course they won't.
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. Noice
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Redcordial posted:Awesome work Cleretic!! I'm pretty sure it was you who was asking me for information about the snap rally/demonstration the other day. Yes it was, and thankyou for that! It feels weird to say that I had fun, given the serious subject matter, but it was one hell of an experience. Something I never would've done when I lived in Adelaide, for so many reasons. Parts of me do still hurt, though.
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Oh, you don't live in Adelaide anymore? :cryingpipingshrike:
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Was it this thread that was all "hurr the Government wont use the senate reform and ABCC to call a DD"?
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AgentF posted:Oh, you don't live in Adelaide anymore? :cryingpipingshrike: I got a job in Melbourne last month! Literally could not get interviews in Adelaide since there was no work in my field and more qualified people in others, but like the first job I applied to in Melbourne took me, which w as great.
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I'm in London on my honeymoon and Tony Abbott was in the same pub as me. He even was pawing in the urinal next to mine. I didn't piss on him and I already regret it. He was laughing and talking really loudly and the bartender rolled his eyes. It was surreal
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teacup posted:I'm in London on my honeymoon and Tony Abbott was in the same pub as me. He even was pawing in the urinal next to mine. I didn't piss on him and I already regret it. He was laughing and talking really loudly and the bartender rolled his eyes. It was surreal Shandy?
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No it was beer. I want to say peroni but couldn't be sure. He was with two guys so maybe was trying to act manly
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the lesson of the 2013 election that personal popularity/unpopularity doesn't matter? i.e. the public widely disliked Abbott but voted Liberal in a landslide anyway because 2PP is what matters to most people. Which would suggest Mal's personal approval rating is irrelevant.
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freebooter posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the lesson of the 2013 election that personal popularity/unpopularity doesn't matter? i.e. the public widely disliked Abbott but voted Liberal in a landslide anyway because 2PP is what matters to most people. Which would suggest Mal's personal approval rating is irrelevant. However looking at the opinion polls at the time of the election while Abbott was more "unsatisfied" than "satisfied", Rudd was polling worse. The election was called during the honeymoon period after Rudd 2 was installed and then his ratings plummeted during the campaign. edit: Here's a wikipedia link for some opinion poll data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Australian_federal_election,_2013
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I see this as someone with an unsuited 4 and 7 going all in in a bid to prevent people betting against them: The reason people thought the ABCC legislation wouldn't be used as a DD trigger is because the coalition has a bad track record on IR legislation at poll time and it will galvanise the Unions and the ALP against them (at least to some extent). That mix up with Morrison? That's the absolute tip of an iceberg. Malformed Turdball has grudging support at best from even his most loyal followers. Nearly half his party room are actively working against him. Whether or not the stakes of an election will pull people into line is just part of the gamble here. Australians are suspicious of early polls and calling a DD on what is a non critical issue may be all it takes to flip a vote the other way. Which brings up the biggest problem of them all. What is the central message of the Turdball re-election campaign? ABBC isn't about to cut it. Calling a DD on a small target 'But at least I'm not Blub Shartfart' is a conundrum that even disengaged voters will have trouble comprehending. A week is a long time in politics and July may be a bridge too far especially if the budget is overplayed in either direction (ie) Pork/austerity. Lucky he's got treasury in safe hand...  It's really unlikely but having the ALP Greens and/or cross bench defuse his trigger would make him look like an utter fool and probably rend him unelectable. Those are the stakes. And if the amendments are to include organisations rather than only unions Malformed needs a bunch less of this in the next three months. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-22/medcraft-backs-funke-kupper-after-resignation/7265602 quote:ASIC boss backs Funke Kupper in face of bribery scandal AM By AM business editor Peter Ryan Posted about an hour ago
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Cartoon posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-22/medcraft-backs-funke-kupper-after-resignation/7265602 Federal ICAC now
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Cartoon posted:What is the central message of the Turdball re-election campaign? ABBC isn't about to cut it. Calling a DD on a small target 'But at least I'm not Blub Shartfart' is a conundrum that even disengaged voters will have trouble comprehending. My guess is that the budget will contain tax cuts left right and centre, coupled with a few innovative new ways to poo poo on the poor/asylum seekers/gays. It'll be a real crowdpleaser.
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starkebn posted:Federal ICAC now qft
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Cleretic posted:For what it's worth, they both took it really well. Good work! Hope you feel as though a lot of weight has been lifted off you like I did.
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Mithranderp posted:My guess is that the budget will contain tax cuts left right and centre, coupled with a few innovative new ways to poo poo on the poor/asylum seekers/gays. It'll be a real crowdpleaser. But the debt and deficit disaster, the adults in charge?!
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Cartoon posted:I see this as someone with an unsuited 4 and 7 going all in in a bid to prevent people betting against them: Based on shorten's time in opposition its like going all in on an unsuited 4 and 7 while your opponent is still reading the "how to play" card that comes in the deck. The whole campaign is going to br about stimulating the economy and removing a senate thats preventing progress. If all Labour has in their deck is the safe schools debate and tax cuts/hand outs for the poor they're not going to gain appreciable ground.
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